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smitty46953 04-27-2018 12:53 PM

DRAFT DAY 2 Thread
 
Who do you want?

I want see them add another OL Hernandez or Williams... Then go Defense with Landry :cool:

smitty46953 04-27-2018 12:55 PM

Lot of talent left for Day 2 (Minimum 3 of these guys or someone not listed will be ours) :cool:

EDGE - Harold Landry
EDGE - Lorenzo Carter
EDGE - Arden Key
DE - Rasheem Green
DE - Sam Hubbard
DE - Dashawn Hand
DT - Maurice Hurst
ILB - Malik Jefferson
ILB - Micah Kiser
ILB - Tegray Scales
S - Justin Reid
CB - Josh Jackson
CB - Carlton Davis
CB - Isaiah Oliver
RB - Derius Guice
RB - Kerryon Johnson
RB - Ronald Jones
RB - Nick Chubb
G - Will Hernandez
G/C - James Daniels
G/T - Conner Williams
OT - Orlando Brown
WR - Christian Kirk
WR - Deon Cain
WR - Courtland Sutton
WR - DJ Chark
TE - Mike Gesicki

rcubed 04-27-2018 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 64991)
Who do you want?

I want see them add another OL Hernandez or Williams... Then go Defense with Landry :cool:

basically my thoughts for 36 and 37. possibly hurst.

VeveJones007 04-27-2018 01:05 PM

36-Landry
37-Jefferson
49-Jackson or Oliver
67-Hurst or O’Neil

rm1369 04-27-2018 01:08 PM

Landry
Hernandez
Jackson
Jefferson
Hurst

Some combination of these guys would be my preference. D and OL are really what I want to see though. No TE, WR, and no RB until at least round 4 IMO.

testcase448 04-27-2018 01:51 PM

not sure about this..especially the TE

https://nflmocks.com/2018/04/27/2018...off-2nd-round/

36RONALD JONES RB, USC
Adding Quenton Nelson gave the Colts offense so much more punch in an instant and serves to help Andrew Luck. Now what they need is a running back who can continue to make his life easier. Ronald Jones is a solid all-around back but is particularly adept as a receiver out of the backfield.

37. Indianapolis Colts (via NYJ)
37JOSHUA JACKSON CB, Iowa
Chris Ballard has a particular love for defensive backs that force heaps of turnovers. It was true with Charles Tillman in Chicago, Marcus Peters in Kansas City and Malik Hooker last year. So a corner like Joshua Jackson is going to appeal to him right away. A true ballhawk.

49. Indianapolis Colts
49DALLAS GOEDERT TE, South Dakota State
The Colts continue to make life easier for Andrew Luck. As yet they haven’t found a true playmaking tight end for him to use the past six years. That changes with the arrival of Dallas Goedert who has earned well-deserved comparisons to Travis Kelce.

Although the Eagles were pretty good at using multiple TEs

VeveJones007 04-27-2018 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by testcase448 (Post 65011)
I could live with this

https://nflmocks.com/2018/04/27/2018...off-2nd-round/

36RONALD JONES RB, USC
Adding Quenton Nelson gave the Colts offense so much more punch in an instant and serves to help Andrew Luck. Now what they need is a running back who can continue to make his life easier. Ronald Jones is a solid all-around back but is particularly adept as a receiver out of the backfield.

37. Indianapolis Colts (via NYJ)
37JOSHUA JACKSON CB, Iowa
Chris Ballard has a particular love for defensive backs that force heaps of turnovers. It was true with Charles Tillman in Chicago, Marcus Peters in Kansas City and Malik Hooker last year. So a corner like Joshua Jackson is going to appeal to him right away. A true ballhawk.

Jackson is a really good fit for this defense and I could see Ballard liking him. No way do I pick Jones over Landry, though. And no way do I take a TE at 49.

ukcolt 04-27-2018 01:59 PM

Ronald Jones is too similar to Marlon Mack in my opinion, i believe that Mack could be dynamic out of the backfield. We need a between the tackles thumper, who can be had later in the draft. I would love to see the Colts take Chase Edmonds in the later rounds, or Bo Scarborough, to go along with Mack and the others. I think we actually have some pieces already in Matt Jones, Christine Michael and then the short yardage back in Turbin.

Receiver is a bigger need than RB. Running backs are almost exclusively by committee these days and there is little value in having a No. 1 back these days.

VeveJones007 04-27-2018 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ukcolt (Post 65013)
Ronald Jones is too similar to Marlon Mack in my opinion, i believe that Mack could be dynamic out of the backfield. We need a between the tackles thumper, who can be had later in the draft. I would love to see the Colts take Chase Edmonds in the later rounds, or Bo Scarborough, to go along with Mack and the others. I think we actually have some pieces already in Matt Jones, Christine Michael and then the short yardage back in Turbin.

Receiver is a bigger need than RB. Running backs are almost exclusively by committee these days and there is little value in having a No. 1 back these days.

Yep. As I've said a few times, I see Sutton as a Ballard target early in Round 2. By no means would it be a bad pick, but I think there will be defenders I would prioritize over him. Maybe he falls to 47.

testcase448 04-27-2018 02:09 PM

a different take...
https://nflmocks.com/2018/04/27/2018...t-still-board/

Still a RB and DB, but then DL

4 (36). Indianapolis Colts: Derrius Guice, RB, LSU


The Colts went with Quenton Nelson in the first round. They invested in Andrew Luck then, and they do it again here by getting him a bell-cow running back to pair with the flashy Marlon Mack.

5 (37). Indianapolis Colts (f/NYJ): Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa

Making back-to-back picks, the Colts dip into the defensive side of the ball for first time and get the ball-hawking corner Josh Jackson, who led the nation in 2017 with eight picks.

17 (49). Indianapolis Colts (f/NYJ via SEA): Tim Settle, DL, Virginia Tech

The Colts decided to move on from Johnathan Hankins, who was a really good run defender for them last year. They replace him with a young player in Tim Settle who can clog up the middle of that defense.

VeveJones007 04-27-2018 02:16 PM

I've seen multiple mocks send Settle to the Colts, but I'm not sure he's a scheme fit now that they're in a 4 man front.

VeveJones007 04-27-2018 02:19 PM

Prisco has Colts taking Jackson, Hubbard, and Sutton. I'm fine with Jackson and Hubbard in those spots, but Hubbard is redundant on this roster. They need a speed rusher much more than what Hubbard offers.

Dam8610 04-27-2018 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 64991)
Who do you want?

Rasheem Green, Harold Landry, Ronnie Harrison/Malik Jefferson, Jerome Baker is about as good as we can hope for at this point.

Dam8610 04-27-2018 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 65018)
I've seen multiple mocks send Settle to the Colts, but I'm not sure he's a scheme fit now that they're in a 4 man front.

He's not anywhere close to a scheme fit. He's a 2 gap NT with short arms IIRC. Basically the opposite of what the Colts would look for.

smitty46953 04-27-2018 02:28 PM

My ideal 2nd & 3rd round is ... :cool:

2.04 (#36) - Will Hernandez (OG-UTEP)
2.05 (#37) - Harold Landry (DE-Boston College)
2.17 (#49) - Lorenzo Carter (LB-Georgia)
3.03 (#67) - Kerryon Johnson (RB-Auburn)

ukcolt 04-27-2018 02:29 PM

Agree Settle is completely the wrong type of player for this defense, although if available and health concerns are cleared then Maurice Hurst is the absolute perfect fit for this defense. His biggest strength is his first step quickness and his ability to get into the backfield up the middle on a consistent basis causing mayhem.

FatDT 04-27-2018 02:33 PM

No reason to send Hankins packing and then draft Settle.

36 and 37 - Williams or Hernandez with one pick, Landry/Hurst/Rasheem Griffin/Josh Jackson with the other

49 - BJ Hill? Malik Jefferson? Or one of the above if he's still there.

67 - Shaqueem Griffin? Nick Chubb? John Kelly?

DragonTails 04-27-2018 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 65001)
Landry
Hernandez
Jackson
Jefferson
Hurst

Some combination of these guys would be my preference. D and OL are really what I want to see though. No TE, WR, and no RB until at least round 4 IMO.

My thoughts exactly. We need trenches not skill positions. That can be next year or FA. You build a team in the trenches and everyone else looks and plays better.

VeveJones007 04-27-2018 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 65026)
No reason to send Hankins packing and then draft Settle.

36 and 37 - Williams or Hernandez with one pick, Landry/Hurst/Rasheem Griffin/Josh Jackson with the other

49 - BJ Hill? Malik Jefferson? Or one of the above if he's still there.

67 - Shaqueem Griffin? Nick Chubb? John Kelly?

Why not two defenders at 36 & 37? I'm fine with Mewhort/Slausen.

VeveJones007 04-27-2018 03:10 PM

Zierlein mocks Landry, Jackson, and Leonard to the Colts in round 2. That would be a very nice haul.

ZiaColt 04-27-2018 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 65041)
Zierlein mocks Landry, Jackson, and Leonard to the Colts in round 2. That would be a very nice haul.

IMO #49 may be a bit high for Leonard, but if Ballard could manage to get Landry and Jackson then he might be able to gamble a tiny bit with his next pick. I'd personally prefer Jefferson due to his better size, but he may already be gone by #49. And heaven knows the Colts need LBs.....all over the field.

I want to get Miami and NE in a bidding war for #37 (& M. Rudolph), if only to mess with Big Bad Billy.

smitty46953 04-27-2018 03:51 PM

Hey Dammy, get your tissues ready ... I have heard that Joseph Addai is announcing Colts 2nd round picks ... Your old man crush was he not ? :cool:

FatDT 04-27-2018 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 65038)
Why not two defenders at 36 & 37? I'm fine with Mewhort/Slausen.

Because just picking Nelson at 6 doesn't fix the right side of the OL. Mewhort is unreliable, Slauson is old. If they take two great defenders that's fine but not shoring up the whole OL when there are great prospects available and you already burned the 6th overall on the position group seems like a costly half measure.

Indiana V2 04-27-2018 04:04 PM

Landry and Hernandez, then a RB.

Dam8610 04-27-2018 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 65056)
Because just picking Nelson at 6 doesn't fix the right side of the OL. Mewhort is unreliable, Slauson is old. If they take two great defenders that's fine but not shoring up the whole OL when there are great prospects available and you already burned the 6th overall on the position group seems like a costly half measure.

Starting guards can be found on Day 3. Calling drafting Nelson a half measure is a kindness to Ballard, but defense needs to rule the day today.

DrSpaceman 04-27-2018 04:18 PM

Jackson, Chubb, Hernandez, Williams.......would be happy with any combination of those 3

Dam8610 04-27-2018 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 65063)
Jackson, Chubb, Hernandez, Williams.......would be happy with any combination of those 3

I'd love Chubb, too. Can they trade Elway Nelson for him?

Chromeburn 04-27-2018 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 65023)
He's not anywhere close to a scheme fit. He's a 2 gap NT with short arms IIRC. Basically the opposite of what the Colts would look for.

Yeah, I agree, I don't think Settle is on our radar. Look for Nathan Shepard, Hurst I love, Andrew Brown, Poona Ford, The NC ST DT's, and a couple more guys I can't think of.

Chaka 04-27-2018 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 65060)
Starting guards can be found on Day 3. Calling drafting Nelson a half measure is a kindness to Ballard, but defense needs to rule the day today.

But starting players at any position can be found on Day 3, right? You just have to be good enough to identify them - which is really the rub after all. Like any position, I'd venture a guess that on average, guards picked in the first round have outperformed those picked in later rounds. Do you disagree?

You might argue that the consequences of picking a bad guard are less severe than, say, picking a bad QB. That I'd agree with. But it doesn't mean that you shouldn't pick guards until Day 3.

Chromeburn 04-27-2018 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 65019)
Prisco has Colts taking Jackson, Hubbard, and Sutton. I'm fine with Jackson and Hubbard in those spots, but Hubbard is redundant on this roster. They need a speed rusher much more than what Hubbard offers.

Lots of hybrid rushers going today I bet. Hubbard and Green are probably the only 3 down DE's left. I bet a CB is definitely coming, then maybe a DT, LB, WR, or RB with 49. Will come down to their board. A guy like Nwosu would fill two roles SAM LB and pass rush.

Also Carter, Turay, OO in there as well.

Chromeburn 04-27-2018 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukcolt (Post 65013)
Ronald Jones is too similar to Marlon Mack in my opinion, i believe that Mack could be dynamic out of the backfield. We need a between the tackles thumper, who can be had later in the draft. I would love to see the Colts take Chase Edmonds in the later rounds, or Bo Scarborough, to go along with Mack and the others. I think we actually have some pieces already in Matt Jones, Christine Michael and then the short yardage back in Turbin.

Receiver is a bigger need than RB. Running backs are almost exclusively by committee these days and there is little value in having a No. 1 back these days.

I really think ROJO is much better than Mack. He isn't a bouncer like Mack and in the open field he is just as dangerous if not more so with production against better competition.

Chromeburn 04-27-2018 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 65082)
But starting players at any position can be found on Day 3, right? You just have to be good enough to identify them - which is really the rub after all. Like any position, I'd venture a guess that on average, guards picked in the first round have outperformed those picked in later rounds. Do you disagree?

You might argue that the consequences of picking a bad guard are less severe than, say, picking a bad QB. That I'd agree with. But it doesn't mean that you shouldn't pick guards until Day 3.

Yes and no. Basically the best athletes usually go in the first round. And defenses have the best athletes on the field. Now guard doesn't need to be filled by a great athlete, it can be played competently by a lesser athlete. If the guy is a great athlete he would be playing on the outside.

Guys that are going now are guys that usually have a knock against them of some form. And of course guys that fell out of the 1st simply bc someone didn't take them.

We can find smaller LBs now, and other guys that need some development time.

ukcolt 04-27-2018 05:18 PM

ROJO maybe a better back than Mack, not really arguing that, but we don't need a similarly skilled back to Mack especially not in the 2nd round. We need a compliment to Mack.

GoBigBlue88 04-27-2018 05:59 PM

Gimme Maurice Hurst if there's a reasonable chance he plays even 5 years.

omahacolt 04-27-2018 06:11 PM

Landry, hurst and jackson

omahacolt 04-27-2018 06:12 PM

Fuck offense this round

Chromeburn 04-27-2018 06:23 PM

Surprised no one has mentioned Connor Williams since we could use a RT.

sherck 04-27-2018 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 65106)
Surprised no one has mentioned Connor Williams since we could use a RT.

I am hoping for Hernandez and Williams or Landry and Williams tonight.

Walk Worthy,

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GoBigBlue88 04-27-2018 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 65106)
Surprised no one has mentioned Connor Williams since we could use a RT.

I like Williams. I think he still has LT capability. Whether that's this season or next, who knows. He's athletic as hell.

Again -- I'm all in on OL in 2nd round BECAUSE THE VALUE IS HERE and you committed to it already with Nelson. Anyone thinking my head will explode if Colts go Williams or Hernandez tonight hasn't been following my logic :)

Chaka 04-27-2018 06:46 PM

I’m gonna go out on a limb here, and predict we go all Guard from here on out.


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