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Wild card in Anthony Richardson decision
It’s been widely reported, probably reliably, that the Colts haven’t been impressed with what teams have been willing to offer in trade for Richardson. Chris Ballard doesn’t seem willing to hold a fire sale.
Three days after a draft in which a trade was widely expected, I have begun to wonder how much next year’s free agent market and the assignment of compensatory picks is factoring into this. Are they willing to hold onto Richardson with the expectation that he signs a big enough deal to net them something better than they can get in a trade? |
This whole situation is kind of dumb to me.
I get why Richardson is seeking the trade. I think it's immature, but that tracks with his other decisions the last few years. He's uncomfortable, he probably thinks nobody believes in him, and I assume he thinks it'll be different somewhere else. I've thought shit like that in my life too, growing up. The grass isn't greener, in my experience it's more about what's inside of you. The football world has said over and over that he needed to sit behind a guy and learn. We were supposed to know he was a significant project and protect him. There's some legitimacy to that, we also had a different set of urgency - something had to change. I empathize with Ballard and the organization like I did with Manning. They took a shot, it hasn't worked out as well as we hoped it would. Well, here's his opportunity to sit behind a guy and learn. There's zero pressure, he can't play worse, and his value for us right now is higher than anyone else I imagine. I wouldn't trade him unless my socks were knocked off and I suspect that's exactly how Ballard feels. What I don't get it why Richardson's camp doesn't look at this like the absolutely great opportunity it is. You get to compete with a glass QB, with a shaky at best career, that's coming off of a broken leg and torn Achilles. The FO is already playing that bullshit game of "He'll be ready week 1" and even if he is, what are the actual odds he makes it through the entire year? Even if his future is not in Indianapolis, he's playing in a scheme he's known for years, with players he's known for years, and has an opportunity to put up tape for his next destination. Maybe he can get someone to pay him and offer him a starting position. |
He’s probably gonna end up cut just like Kenny Moore
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Why on earth would they cut him? If that isn't an indictment of Ballard, cutting the number 4 pick 3 years after picking him, I am not sure what is. Hard for me seeing him do that and leave us with an injury prone QB coming off a devastating injury and a late round draft pick to back him up. Despite all the hate AR gets around here, the man has won games in the NFL. We don't need the money and it is hard to see someone trade and pay 5 and a half million dollars for a back up QB who needs to sit and is most likely a one year rental for them. On top of all of this if the Colts are correct about Daniel Jones it will be the first time in 10 years that this group has correctly evaluated a QB. We need more than 2 QBs on this team.
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For all of his flaws, Anthony Richardson is very talented and athletic, and gives the team the proverbial "puncher's chance" to win any close game with a late, 4th quarter rally ...... how much more can one ask from a 3rd-string quarterback ??? In fact, that sounds like arguably the best 3rd-string quarterback in the league. And yes, we really need 3 quarterbacks in this very rough sport of tackle football, as last year's team having 44 year-old Philip Rivers desperately trying to salvage the season exhibited. Leave well-enough alone, and don't make an issue where there isn't one by cutting him. Richardson may want to be traded, but one can't always get what they want. o |
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Just cut him and move on, I wish the dude the best and he may end up being a good quarterback some day but the days of hoping it’s wearing a horseshoe are long gone. |
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10 years ago was April of 2016. Andrew Luck was still with the team. The evaluation of Philip Rivers for the 2020 season was fine. Unfortunately, he immediately retired following that solid season. In 2021, Carson Wentz had 27 TD's, 7 INT's, and a passer rating of 94.6 ...... Wentz led the team to a 9-6 record in their first 15 games before he shit the bed in the final 2 games of the season. Wentz ultimately failed, but his failure was far from epic proportions. In addition to Wentz shitting the bed, the entire team played like garbage in those last 2 games of that season, especially against a horrible Jaguars team that had a record of 2-14 entering that game. There is no doubt that the Colts have had multiple failures in QB evaluations since the abrupt retirement of Andrew Luck in September of 2019, since which the Colts have played 6 seasons (2020 through 2025) in trying to find a suitable QB for the team (the Colts had no chance to evaluate a new QB in 2019, because of the fact that Luck retired 2 weeks before the start of the season) ...... you can make your point without exaggerating. o |
Everyone says he is a good teammate and isn’t a cancer. If he was, the. Trade him.
I don’t believe I was exaggerating except I should have said 9 vs 10 years. Wentz had decent numbers but was gone immediately. Nobody even got a second contract. I may be the only person on this board not in love with Rivers so if you think I he was the answer we just disagree. |
I stand corrected. They can evaluate a QB as long as they have 20 odd years of NFL film on him
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That's not what I was correcting. I was primarily correcting your assertion that the Colts have been failing to evaluate quarterbacks for 10 years, or even 9 years. 2025 was the 6th season in which they have been trying to find a suitable quarterback since the abrupt and unexpected retirement of Andrew Luck. I said that the Colts have had multiple failures in evaluating them in those 6 seasons. o |
Chris Ballard sucks.
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Let’s play what if with Anthony Richardson. I’ll admit that there are a lot of what if’s, but when you start talking about him, there are a few givens. He’s got incredible size and athleticism. He’s truly capable of doing things that few Quarterbacks are capable of. He’s 24 years old, young by NFL standards. He hasn’t exactly carved out a reputation for diligence and dedication to his craft. He’s injury prone, and he’s had problems with accuracy and anticipation.
Let’s start out with the simplest what if. What if he’s healthy. What if the vision problems clear up? If they don’t, he has no market value, no one is going to sign him, much less part with draft capital for him. Second, let’s assume that all the hours he spent working with coaches in the past two off-seasons pays off and he is able to hit the broad side of a barn at 20 yards. What if he’s healthy has a good training camp and looks competent in preseason action? What if Daniel Jones misses 3 or so games, Richardson goes in and they win 2 or 3. What if he completes 60% of his passes, puts up some td’s, eliminates errors, and demonstrates that he has the potential to develop into a quality NFL Quarterback? In a free agent market usually devoid of quality at the position, what is he worth? In 2026, losing a player who signed for $6 Million per season got you a 6th round pick. A player getting $10.5 Million got a 5th. For $16 Million, you got a 4th. And losing a guy who received $25 Million was good for a 3rd. |
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So, that would say teams have assessed him, and probably more likely his overall situation, and decided it was not worth any capital at all to make a move to get him. Instead, there are probably a handful of teams that would be glad to take him, after he is cut. I do not expect him to be a Colt for much longer and I don't think we get anything in return. Just another botched fucking shit show initiated by an inept blow hard ass clown that has as much merit to be the GM of an NFL team as the zit on my ass has flying a fighter jet. He just simply sucks at his job. |
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The damage is irreconcilable. Fuck the money it’s time to move on |
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As far as Leonard is concerned, I’d have real doubts about putting a lot of eggs into that basket. The fact that he played well against a Houston team with no stake in winning doesn’t make me want to hop on that particular bandwagon. As far as Richardson’s market value being low, I agree. I also agree that he’s third on the depth chart. But crap happens. Even if Richardson doesn’t take a single snap, this year, teams will have an interest, next March. As far as Ballard’s concerned, you can’t fire a GM because he missed on a 1st round QB. For every hit at the position, 2 miss. He’s put together a solid roster, had what most analysts agree is a good draft, and he has 4 pro bowlers returning from injury. If Jones can stay on the field, this is an 11 or 12 win team. |
Is Leonard the #2 if Richardson doesn't almost go blind last year? I don't remember it like that. I remember there being a "close" position battle last year. The organization told us that Richardson had improved tremendously, Shane Steichen had told us that Richardson had improved tremendously, and that Jones was just a bit better in his professionalism so they believed he gave us the better chance to win.
I do not remember Leonard being a part of that conversation. Even if Leonard is the #2, fine. I'd get all the value I possibly could out of Richardson. He'd be my Taysom Hill. I'd run his God damn wheels off. I don't give a shit about what any player on this team wants. They haven't won a damn thing. That extends to Kenny Moore too. I respect him but IDGAF, we've paid a bunch of guys and they've won nothing. |
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I’m kind of torn on what to do with AR though. He’s obviously not going to fetch anything in a trade or it would have happened during the draft. There’s always a chance a team gets desperate in preseason because of injuries but that seems unlikely. If they can’t get anything of value for him in a trade and he’s not just an absolute cancer in the locker room, they may as well keep him. |
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The Texans were trying to win, and had all of their starters playing in the first half of that game, and Riley played very well in that half. The Texans pulled their starters in the 2nd half of that game after it became clear that the Jaguars were going to hammer the Titans to clinch the division title. I agree that I would not necessarily put a of eggs in the proverbial Riley Leoanrd basket based on one solid game against a team that pulled some of their starters in the 2nd half ...... I think that there is about a 40 to 50% chance that Leonard could actually be the quarterback that we saw in that game. o |
Kray, for those of us who want Ballard gone screwing the 4th pick in the draft (after putting a team on the field that earned the 4th pick) is not THE reason we want him gone, it is just one more reason. Years of mediocrity is what most of us are sick of. This year looks like it is going to be even more of that, if not worse.
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With a lead of 20-10, the Texans began yanking starters midway through the 2nd Quarter. Until that point, the Colts had scored 7 points on a busted coverage and another 3 on a drive punctuated by a 17 yard Rigoberto Sanchez pass on 4th down and a Riley Leonard scramble for 11. Before the Texans pulled their starters, aside from the busted play, Leonard had thrown for 13 yards. |
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They played the last half of the season without their best 3 players on D. Plus, plan A and Plan B at Quarterback went down. The closest parallel I can think of is last year’s Chiefs, who managed to score 30’odd points in 3 games after Mahomes and the backup went down. As far as this coming season goes, barring injury to Jones and reasonable health all around, I see an 11 or 12 win team. |
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I feel like the real breaking point was the missed blitz pickup in the preseason game, and the it became "nope, I'm done" |
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Correct. And Leonard made many more good passes in that game. The announcers, Colts fans, and pretty much everybody watching that game (except for Texans fans) were happily surprised with Leonard's showing that day. o |
[QUOTE=apballin;347342]It wasn’t a busted coverage they weren’t expecting the rookie to have the balls to make that throw[/QUOTE
Tremon Smith simply abandoned coverage of Pierce and let him run by.. I’m not sure that that isn’t the definition of busted coverage. |
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So the Colts were down to their 4th-string quarterback, and they nearly beat the eventually Super Bowl champions on their home-field in Seattle ...... one game is clearly a small sample size, but I believe that it exemplified the fact that the the Colts were a complete, competitive team that was not overly-dependent on an all-world quarterback such as Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck. If the Colts don't have the same horrible luck in regard to QB injuries this upcoming season, perhaps we can see whether or not they can complete an entire season of being a bonafide conference championship contender for the first time since the 2020 Philip Rivers season. o |
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I’m sure the scouting report was, he can’t throw they don’t trust him so if he does throw it’ll be all short passes. Be ready to jump all short passes and get a couple pick 6s. They totally shut Taylor down and dared Leonard to beat them and if Pierce doesn’t get ejected he absolutely was gonna beat them |
Who is willing to wait 7 years for Marshall Manning to become our QB?
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...video-training |
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It's fine with waiting 7 years for Marshall Manning to become our quarterback ...... as long as the Colts win 2 or 3 conference championships in the meantime. o |
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That was my fault. Even though I cut-and-pasted the article, I typed in "4" in when he had "three" written out because I did a bit of touch-up editing myself. I prefer numbers instead of words, even though words are grammatically correct for single-digit numbers. Sorry ...... I'll repost it correctly. o |
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