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Lov2fish 12-07-2025 10:25 PM

Jones done
 
Per Jay Glazer he tore his Achilles tendon and is done for the year.
I was never the pay him guy. I also understood he is not our biggest problem. He was capable of winning more games then he lost with the weapons he has.

I guess we are going to find out what Riley has. He wasn't as horrible today as I thought he would be. I have guarded optimism. He definitely didn't act like it was to big for him today. I guess we really don't have a choice but see who he is.

nate505 12-07-2025 10:27 PM

He's going to have a hell of a test going on the road against Seattle.

Lov2fish 12-07-2025 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 337151)
He's going to have a hell of a test going on the road against Seattle.

They're all gonna be a test from here on out. I just want to see the playbook opened for him and an honest chance. I know we were all seduced by the early season success. We knew deep down this is the Colts we expected. Why not find out if this kid can do it. If he can that money they were going to spend on Jones can be spent on defensive help where we need a lot of pieces.

Hoopsdoc 12-07-2025 10:36 PM

I wonder if this is similar to Tyrese Halliburtons situation where a leg injury that he tried to play through led to the Achilles injury.

Lov2fish 12-07-2025 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 337157)
I wonder if this is similar to Tyrese Halliburtons situation where a leg injury that he tried to play through led to the Achilles injury.

Was thinking the same thing. The Halliburton effect. Man, got seduced into a false sense of playing with big tits (Early season record) to reality that they were just paper shoved in a bra. I have a serious love/hate relationship with this team.

CletusPyle 12-07-2025 10:59 PM

So what happens to Daniel Jones? It is very unlikely he can even play next year. What a tough break, I suppose insurance will kick in and maybe, if he fully heals he can come back, but this could be career ending?

Hoopsdoc 12-07-2025 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 337160)
So what happens to Daniel Jones? It is very unlikely he can even play next year. What a tough break, I suppose insurance will kick in and maybe, if he fully heals he can come back, but this could be career ending?

??? He may not be ready for training camp but I don’t think it will keep him out all next year.

CletusPyle 12-07-2025 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 337162)
??? He may not be ready for training camp but I don’t think it will keep him out all next year.

If if he is, his contract is up, why would we bring him back unless we are sure he is 100% (very doubtful)!

Hoopsdoc 12-08-2025 05:38 AM

One thing about Jones that isn’t discussed as much as it could be is his proneness to injury. He’s missed at LEAST 2 games because of injury every year of his career, with the exception of last season when he was benched.

He’s not as injury prone as AR but he’s not far behind him either.

That’s another reason it’s hard to advocate for signing him long term.

albany ed 12-08-2025 07:32 AM

The man gave 100%. Somehow, I'd like to see him rewarded for that, but this is the NFL and the salary cap ties their hands.

Mr. Session 12-08-2025 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 337156)
They're all gonna be a test from here on out. I just want to see the playbook opened for him and an honest chance. I know we were all seduced by the early season success. We knew deep down this is the Colts we expected. Why not find out if this kid can do it. If he can that money they were going to spend on Jones can be spent on defensive help where we need a lot of pieces.

I'm with you. Let the kid run with the fucking ball.

What do we have to lose?

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 12-08-2025 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 337157)
I wonder if this is similar to Tyrese Halliburtons situation where a leg injury that he tried to play through led to the Achilles injury.


I think it is a little different situation because Haliburton strained his right calf which was definitely a precursor to the right Achilles injury.

Jones had been playing through an injury to his left leg and then suffered the right Achilles injury.

Sure, you could say that Jones was compensating for his left leg injury which led to different movements and the Achilles injury on the opposite leg...that can happen although it is less common than further injuring the same leg. But I also wonder how much the weather and field conditions played a factor. It was raining and they should have prepared for wet field conditions. So he was probably wearing something different than what he typically wears when playing in good weather or indoors. And picking the wrong cleats for the conditions can sometimes cause Achilles injuries, too.

sherck 12-08-2025 10:26 AM

Even if Jones has the repair surgery today, it is highly unlikely that he would be ready to play by the beginning of next season. He will not just miss training camp, he will probably miss the first part of next season.

With no existing contract for 2026, I don't wee how any NFL team would do more than sign him to a one year "show me" contract at relative low dollar amounts (somewhere in the $10m - $12m range) so they could start him on the IR, activate him when he is ready and have him battle for the starting postion through the season with whomever they have starting (or as a qualtiy backup if their starter is set and they think they want that extra insurance for the end of the season and playoffs).

Alas, I think the timing is terrible for the Colts. I don't think we can take the risk of signing him to a long-term contract and signing him to a one-year seems like treading water.

Interesting times.

HoosierinFL 12-08-2025 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 337192)
Even if Jones has the repair surgery today, it is highly unlikely that he would be ready to play by the beginning of next season. He will not just miss training camp, he will probably miss the first part of next season.

With no existing contract for 2026, I don't wee how any NFL team would do more than sign him to a one year "show me" contract at relative low dollar amounts (somewhere in the $10m - $12m range) so they could start him on the IR, activate him when he is ready and have him battle for the starting postion through the season with whomever they have starting (or as a qualtiy backup if their starter is set and they think they want that extra insurance for the end of the season and playoffs).

Alas, I think the timing is terrible for the Colts. I don't think we can take the risk of signing him to a long-term contract and signing him to a one-year seems like treading water.

Interesting times.

Its very typically a full 1 year recovery, which would takeus to thr end of next season. Its why Halliburton wont play at all this season.

albany ed 12-08-2025 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 337192)
Even if Jones has the repair surgery today, it is highly unlikely that he would be ready to play by the beginning of next season. He will not just miss training camp, he will probably miss the first part of next season.

With no existing contract for 2026, I don't wee how any NFL team would do more than sign him to a one year "show me" contract at relative low dollar amounts (somewhere in the $10m - $12m range) so they could start him on the IR, activate him when he is ready and have him battle for the starting postion through the season with whomever they have starting (or as a qualtiy backup if their starter is set and they think they want that extra insurance for the end of the season and playoffs).

Alas, I think the timing is terrible for the Colts. I don't think we can take the risk of signing him to a long-term contract and signing him to a one-year seems like treading water.

Interesting times.

I think if it were up to me, I would offer him a 3 year contract at escalating salaries and not much bonus. First year would just be small, second year a little bigger and the third year would be huge. If he doesn't do well in the second year, they can release him and not be on the hook for the large salary in the third year.

Oldcolt 12-08-2025 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 337200)
I think if it were up to me, I would offer him a 3 year contract at escalating salaries and not much bonus. First year would just be small, second year a little bigger and the third year would be huge. If he doesn't do well in the second year, they can release him and not be on the hook for the large salary in the third year.

Something like this or maybe just a one year. First Jones was headed to the part of the season where he would show if he was just off a few games or was reverting back to giant ways. I will say that the interception he threw was pretty bad. Let AR start and if he shits the bed like people here think he will Jones should be available some time time next year (the are doing wonder with Achilles surgery now). AR has been through a ton these last few years. Many here felt he should have sat and watched for a year. Hopefully he has matures this last year. Not holding my breathe for either but I think it is our reality as Colt fans. It frees up money to sign Pierce/Cross etc

CletusPyle 12-09-2025 08:49 AM

We'll probably just have to wait and see what the new GM wants to do with Jones......:D

albany ed 12-09-2025 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 337345)
We'll probably just have to wait and see what the new GM wants to do with Jones......:D

It's funny that this year, Ballard went from a total POS to a brilliant GM when the team was 7 and 1 and then back to being a POS now. I guess the same could be said of Steichen. We fans got way too big for our britches when Jones and the Colts were doing so well. Then it's back to Ballard and Steichen are dumb SOBs. This team was never as good as their 7 and 1 record led us to believe, and IMO they are not as bad as their 1 and 4 record lately. They're the 2025 Colts and 9 and 7 or 8 and 8 is what they've always been.

If you believe that if not for injuries, this team would be 10 and 3 or even better right now, then you can't think Ballard and Steichen are done. If you believe the first half had more to do with weak opponents and an unexpected good performance by a middle of the road QB, then you might feel that Ballard and Steichen are history.

Hoopsdoc 12-09-2025 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 337346)
It's funny that this year, Ballard went from a total POS to a brilliant GM when the team was 7 and 1 and then back to being a POS now. I guess the same could be said of Steichen. We fans got way too big for our britches when Jones and the Colts were doing so well. Then it's back to Ballard and Steichen are dumb SOBs. This team was never as good as their 7 and 1 record led us to believe, and IMO they are not as bad as their 1 and 4 record lately. They're the 2025 Colts and 9 and 7 or 8 and 8 is what they've always been.

If you believe that if not for injuries, this team would be 10 and 3 or even better right now, then you can't think Ballard and Steichen are done. If you believe the first half had more to do with weak opponents and an unexpected good performance by a middle of the road QB, then you might feel that Ballard and Steichen are history.

Great point, Ed. You can’t have it both ways.

Personally, I think this season has shown that this team is a decent quarterback away from being a perennial contender, and has been for awhile.

However, it’s REALLY REALLY hard to find a franchise quarterback in the NFL.

Puck 12-11-2025 11:02 PM

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AlwaysSunnyinIndy 12-12-2025 02:03 PM

https://x.com/JoelAErickson/status/1999539843487957133

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Daniel Jones returned to the team facility today, he'll be in the quarterback meetings and around the team facility after undergoing surgery to repair his torn Achilles.

Dam8610 12-12-2025 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 337192)
Even if Jones has the repair surgery today, it is highly unlikely that he would be ready to play by the beginning of next season. He will not just miss training camp, he will probably miss the first part of next season.

With no existing contract for 2026, I don't wee how any NFL team would do more than sign him to a one year "show me" contract at relative low dollar amounts (somewhere in the $10m - $12m range) so they could start him on the IR, activate him when he is ready and have him battle for the starting postion through the season with whomever they have starting (or as a qualtiy backup if their starter is set and they think they want that extra insurance for the end of the season and playoffs).

Alas, I think the timing is terrible for the Colts. I don't think we can take the risk of signing him to a long-term contract and signing him to a one-year seems like treading water.

Interesting times.

Do we know what kind of repair Jones had done? If it's the new kind of repair, SpeedBridge, the return timeline on that is 6-9 months. The information I can find suggests that that is the type of repair he had. That would be plenty of time for Jones to be ready for 2026.

Oldcolt 12-12-2025 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 337727)

Damn this guy makes it hard not to root for him.


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