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jasperhobbs 09-11-2023 01:19 PM

Alec Pierce
 
Perhaps colts should have taken Skye Moore who went 1 pick later. Pierce can't seem to get separation.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 09-11-2023 01:37 PM

Comparison of their rookie years:

Pierce: 16 games, 41 rec, 593 yds, 2 TDs

Moore: 16 games, 22 rec, 250 yds, 0 TDs


Comparison of their first game this season:

Pierce: 1 rec, 5 yds, 0 TDs

Moore: 0 rec, 0 yds, 0 TDs


Moore has had the benefit of having a much better QB.

ukcolt 09-11-2023 01:47 PM

Pierce is going to be ok guys. He is a downfield threat, which unfortunately at this moment in time with Richardson being spoon fed a basic scheme, is not likely to be a staple of the offense in the early weeks. We drafted him knowing full well that his route tree was not highly developed.

ChaosTheory 09-11-2023 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 274151)
Perhaps colts should have taken Skye Moore who went 1 pick later. Pierce can't seem to get separation.

What has Moore done to impress you?


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Originally Posted by ukcolt (Post 274159)
Pierce is going to be ok guys. He is a downfield threat, which unfortunately at this moment in time with Richardson being spoon fed a basic scheme, is not likely to be a staple of the offense in the early weeks. We drafted him knowing full well that his route tree was not highly developed.

Yes. Someone (I can't remember who) put it well in that Pierce is kind of a downfield specialist and yesterday was a game where we just simply didn't push it downfield.

jasperhobbs 09-11-2023 02:58 PM

I guess the real mistake was when they took Parris Campbell when Terry Mclaurin was available.

Chromeburn 09-11-2023 03:03 PM

He's their deep threat and they were scheming to take away the deep ball. We will see a lot of Downs and Gransen this season till they come out of that cover two-shell.

But Pierce’s game isnt running and juking guys with precise routes underneath. His game is going deep and going up for contested catches over the CB. If he is getting doubled he is drawing attention away for other guys to pick up the slack.

YDFL Commish 09-11-2023 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 274174)
I guess the real mistake was when they took Parris Campbell when Terry Mclaurin was available.

Mclaurin is also from Ohio St., so he just would've gotten hurt with us too. I'm sorry, but it's just we have no luck with Buckeyes.

IndyNorm 09-12-2023 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 274174)
I guess the real mistake was when they took Parris Campbell when Terry Mclaurin was available.

Not only this (as long as our OSU curse wouldn't have hit McLaurin), but some of the WRs we passed on in the 2nd round in '19 will make you sick.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...2019/draft.htm

Dam8610 09-12-2023 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 274174)
I guess the real mistake was when they took Parris Campbell when Terry Mclaurin was available.

Or D.K. Metcalf.

omahacolt 09-13-2023 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 274374)
Or D.K. Metcalf.

mclaurin is way better than metcalf

Colts And Orioles 09-14-2024 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 274151)



Perhaps the Colts should have taken Skyy Moore, who went 1 pick later ...... Pierce can't seem to get separation.




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(ONE YEAR LATER)


Colts wide receivers coach Reggie Wayne came away impressed not only by Alec Pierce's 2 deep-ball receptions, but with an 8-yard snag Pierce made in Week 1 against the Houston Texans.



What Alec Pierce’s Most ‘Difficult’ Catch of Week 1, Which Wasn’t on Those Two Deep Passes, Showed About His Growth in Year 3 With Colts

(By J.J. Stankevitz)

https://www.colts.com/news/alec-pier...n-reggie-wayne

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Colts And Orioles 10-08-2024 03:06 PM

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One very bright spot in the Colts' otherwise dreary 2-3 start to the 2024 season is the fact that Alec Pierce ) leads the NFL with 28.3 Yards-Per-Catch.



‘He’s Proving Everybody Wrong:’ Alec Pierce’s Career Day a Bright Spot in Colts’ Loss to Jaguars

(By Amanda Foster)

https://www.colts.com/news/alec-pier...n-jaguars-loss

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YDFL Commish 10-08-2024 07:23 PM

Depending on what you consider the modern era of NFL football. Alec Peirce has a chance to break the NFL single season record for YPR.

Googling the modern era of the NFL gives me 1966 or would 1978 be the more appropriate year, because of the passing rules changes?

I've listed the top 25 listed on Pro Football Reference.

Jimmy Orr and Roger are prominent Colts names.

Rank Player Y/R Year Tm
1 Don Currivan (27) 32.6 1947 BOS
2 Jimmy Orr (22) 27.6 1958 PIT
3 Elbert Dubenion (31) 27.1 1964 BUF
4 Frank Liebel (25) 27 1945 NYG
5 Warren Wells (26) 26.8 1969 OAK
6 Jack Snow (24) 26.3 1967 RAM
7 Bob Hayes+ (27) 26.1 1970 DAL
Ron Sellers (22) 26.1 1969 BOS
9 Flipper Anderson (24) 26 1989 RAM
Mervyn Fernandez (28) 26 1988 RAI
11 Roger Carr (24) 25.9 1976 BAL
12 Jimmy Orr (32) 25.6 1968 BAL
Ken Kavanaugh (30) 25.6 1947 CHI
14 Paul Warfield+ (27) 25.1 1970 MIA
15 Harlon Hill (22) 25 1954 CHI
16 Don Hutson+ (26) 24.9 1939 GNB
Alvin Harper (26) 24.9 1994 DAL
18 Devery Henderson (26) 24.8 2008 NOR
19 Homer Jones (26) 24.7 1967 NYG
20 Tony Bova (26) 24.6 1943 PHI
21 Wesley Walker (23) 24.4 1978 NYJ
22 Elbie Nickel (26) 24.3 1949 PIT
Buddy Dial (23) 24.3 1960 PIT
Anthony Carter (26) 24.3 1987 MIN
25 Ray McLean (27) 24.2 1943 CHI
Cliff Branch+ (28) 24.2 1976 OAK

Colts And Orioles 10-10-2024 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 274151)



Perhaps the Colts should have taken Skye Moore, who went 1 pick later. Pierce can't seem to get separation.




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The Chiefs Proved on Monday Night That There’s Nothing Left to Do with Failed 2nd-Round Draft Pick

(By Nick Roesch)

https://atozsports.com/nfl/kansas-ci...th-the-chiefs/

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YDFL Commish 10-10-2024 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 307297)
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The Chiefs Proved on Monday Night That There’s Nothing Left to Do with Failed 2nd-Round Draft Pick

(By Nick Roesch)

https://atozsports.com/nfl/kansas-ci...th-the-chiefs/

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Take a look at almost every WR that was taken within 15 picks of Pierce, either before or after. We have: Christian Watson, Wan'Dale Robinson, John Metchie, TyQuan Thornton, George Pickens and Skyy Moore, or even Treylon Burks who was taken at #18.

Tell me which of those WR's that you would take over Pierce?

Spike 10-11-2024 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 307104)
Depending on what you consider the modern era of NFL football. Alec Peirce has a chance to break the NFL single season record for YPR.

Googling the modern era of the NFL gives me 1966 or would 1978 be the more appropriate year, because of the passing rules changes?

I've listed the top 25 listed on Pro Football Reference.

Jimmy Orr and Roger are prominent Colts names.

Rank Player Y/R Year Tm
1 Don Currivan (27) 32.6 1947 BOS
2 Jimmy Orr (22) 27.6 1958 PIT
3 Elbert Dubenion (31) 27.1 1964 BUF
4 Frank Liebel (25) 27 1945 NYG
5 Warren Wells (26) 26.8 1969 OAK
6 Jack Snow (24) 26.3 1967 RAM
7 Bob Hayes+ (27) 26.1 1970 DAL
Ron Sellers (22) 26.1 1969 BOS
9 Flipper Anderson (24) 26 1989 RAM
Mervyn Fernandez (28) 26 1988 RAI
11 Roger Carr (24) 25.9 1976 BAL
12 Jimmy Orr (32) 25.6 1968 BAL
Ken Kavanaugh (30) 25.6 1947 CHI
14 Paul Warfield+ (27) 25.1 1970 MIA
15 Harlon Hill (22) 25 1954 CHI
16 Don Hutson+ (26) 24.9 1939 GNB
Alvin Harper (26) 24.9 1994 DAL
18 Devery Henderson (26) 24.8 2008 NOR
19 Homer Jones (26) 24.7 1967 NYG
20 Tony Bova (26) 24.6 1943 PHI
21 Wesley Walker (23) 24.4 1978 NYJ
22 Elbie Nickel (26) 24.3 1949 PIT
Buddy Dial (23) 24.3 1960 PIT
Anthony Carter (26) 24.3 1987 MIN
25 Ray McLean (27) 24.2 1943 CHI
Cliff Branch+ (28) 24.2 1976 OAK

Pierce reminds me of Roger Carr. That dude has been stymied by weak armed QB's. He's finally showing what he can do with guys like AR and Mafia Joe Flacco

Spike 10-11-2024 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 274151)
Perhaps colts should have taken Skye Moore who went 1 pick later. Pierce can't seem to get separation.

Skye fucking Moore isn't worth a shit. He couldn't carry Pierce's jock strap. What the fuck has Skye Moore accomplished so far? Not a damn thing, that's what. Pierce get's plenty of separation. We just had weak ass armed QB's until AR and Flacco.

Dam8610 10-11-2024 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 307300)
Take a look at almost every WR that was taken within 15 picks of Pierce, either before or after. We have: Christian Watson, Wan'Dale Robinson, John Metchie, TyQuan Thornton, George Pickens and Skyy Moore, or even Treylon Burks who was taken at #18.

Tell me which of those WR's that you would take over Pierce?

There's a case for George Pickens.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 10-11-2024 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 307324)
There's a case for George Pickens.


Based on talent alone, sure.

But Pickens brings so much added drama.

And, at the time of the draft, he was coming off an ACL injury...although he did return for a few games at the tail end of his last college football season.

TheMugwump 10-12-2024 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 307313)
Pierce reminds me of Roger Carr. That dude has been stymied by weak armed QB's. He's finally showing what he can do with guys like AR and Mafia Joe Flacco

Ahhh...Roger Carr. My favorite Colts WR from my childhood. He and Bert Jones were the dessert after a meal of Lydell Mitchell. I will never love a team as much as I loved the 1975 Baltimore Colts.

Colts And Orioles 10-12-2024 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMugwump (Post 307415)



Ahhh ....... Roger Carr ...... he's favorite Colts WR from my childhood.

Carr and Bert Jones were the dessert after a meal of Lydell Mitchell ...... ) I will never love a team as much as I loved the 1975 Baltimore Colts.




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Jim Irsay's favorite Colts team ever was the 1975 Baltimore Colts ...... Jim was a 16 year-old water-boy for the Baltimore Colts.

In 2009, Irsay held a reunion at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis in which 39 of the 53 surviving members of that 1975 Colts team showed up at Lucas Oil Stadium for that reunion ...... those surviving players included Bert Jones, Lydell Mitchell, Mike Curtis, John Dutton, and Fred Cook.



Here are 2 of Irsay's guests at said reunion at Lucas Oil Stadium (Bert Jones and Lydell Mitchell.)




http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6...pszhecrtrj.jpg

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Colts And Orioles 11-09-2025 11:12 AM

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Alec Pierce led the NFL in Yards-per-Catch in both 2023 and 2024 ...... I did not know that ...... thanks to the announcers of today's game against the Falcons for pointing that out.

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YDFL Commish 11-09-2025 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 333520)
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Alec Pierce led the NFL in Yards-per-Catch in both 2023 and 2024 ...... I did not know that ...... thanks to the announcers of today's game against the Falcons for pointing that out.

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FYI...They got that wrong, AP did not lead the league in yards per reception in 2023, it was George Pickens at 18.1.

However AP did lead the league in yards per reception in 2024 at 22.3 and continues to lead the league in 2025 at 20.9.

Colts And Orioles 11-09-2025 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 333784)



FYI ...... they got that wrong ...... Alec Pierce did not lead the league in yards per reception in 2023, it was George Pickens at 18.1.

However, Pierce did lead the league in yards per reception in 2024 at 22.3, and continues to lead the league in 2025 at 20.9.




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Oh, I might have misheard that ....... when they said the last 2 years, they were probably referring to 2024 and 2025 ...... as you pointed out, Pierce does lead the league in that category right now for this season.

They may have said "these last 2 seasons", and I heard "the last 2 seasons."

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albany ed 11-09-2025 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 307416)
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Jim Irsay's favorite Colts team ever was the 1975 Baltimore Colts ...... Jim was a 16 year-old water-boy for the Baltimore Colts.

In 2009, Irsay held a reunion at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis in which 39 of the 53 surviving members of that 1975 Colts team showed up at Lucas Oil Stadium for that reunion ...... those surviving players included Bert Jones, Lydell Mitchell, Mike Curtis, John Dutton, and Fred Cook.



Here are 2 of Irsay's guests at said reunion at Lucas Oil Stadium (Bert Jones and Lydell Mitchell.)




http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j6...pszhecrtrj.jpg

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I grew up on the 1958 Colts. Unitas to Berry with a backfield of Alan The Horse Ameche, LG Dupree and the magnificent #24 Lenny Moore.

YDFL Commish 11-09-2025 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 333791)
I grew up on the 1958 Colts. Unitas to Berry with a backfield of Alan The Horse Ameche, LG Dupree and the magnificent #24 Lenny Moore.

You sir, are a lucky man!

CletusPyle 11-09-2025 05:37 PM

Pay the man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Colts And Orioles 11-12-2025 10:54 PM

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In the Top-25, Daniel Jones is at #3, and Alec Pierce is at #7.



2026 NFL Free Agency ...... Early Top-25 Ranking and Predictions

(By Matt Bowen and Jeremy Fowler)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-jones-pickens



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3) l Daniel Jones, QB


Current team: Indianapolis Colts

2025 salary: $14 Million

Age entering 2026 season: 29


What he brings: Jones has elevated his level of play and poise under coach Shane Steichen in Indianapolis. Through 10 games, Jones' 66.8 QBR ranks 9th in the NFL, and he is throwing with a much stronger sense of timing. He fits in an offense that features a good run game, which allows him to operate as a facilitator. (Matt Bowen)

What we're hearing: Jones has a chance to become the biggest earner in the free-agency class. The Colts appear to be all-in on keeping Jones long-term, and they have comps for former top-10 picks who thrived when quarterbacking a new team ...... Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold, who each earned 3-year deals worth around $100 Million. Jones would totally be justified asking for that ...... with interest. (Jeremy Fowler)


7) l Alec Pierce, WR


Current team: Indianapolis Colts

2025 salary: $3.7 Million

Age entering 2026 season: 26


What he brings: A vertical stretch target at 6-foot-3 and 211 pounds, Pierce is averaging an NFL-best 20.9 yards per catch. He has the straight-line speed to lift the safeties to create open coverage voids underneath. With more volume and an increased role, Pierce could produce somewhere as a multi=level route runner in 2026. (Matt Bowen)

What we're hearing: Teams I've talked to anticipate that Pierce will hit a big number in free-agency. They think that the $20 Million per year threshold isn't out of the question for him. Pierce is poised for his first 1,000-yard season and has the size/speed combination teams covet. The Colts have decisions to make on offense. If they pay Daniel Jones ...... who has chemistry with Pierce ...... do they let Pierce walk ??? Much of that will depend on how Pierce's market develops. The Colts typically don't do extensions during the season. (Jeremy Fowler)

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Oldcolt 11-13-2025 09:34 AM

Pay Pierce long term. Not 100% convinced yet that we should be ln long term with Jones (not that I matter but I am about 80% convinced-way up from maybe 5% at the beginning of the year)

sherck 11-13-2025 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 334172)
Pay Pierce long term. Not 100% convinced yet that we should be ln long term with Jones (not that I matter but I am about 80% convinced-way up from maybe 5% at the beginning of the year)

For me on Jones, it will be how he responds after the bye.

His last two games have been his worst two for the Colts. Lots of reasons but I think the blueprint against him is that he has been moved of his mark A LOT in the last two games. Early in the season when that happened, he seemed good throwing on the run. In the last two games, not so much.

If the Colts are smart at all, they worked in a hot read into every passing concept that did not have one during the bye. If the blitz is coming, Jones needs to make they pay with the quick hit to Warren, Downs or Taylor.

He also needs to learn to climb the pocket better rather than bail out back or to the side.

How he responds will be, IMO, the read needed to see if he should be paid long term.

Pez 11-13-2025 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 334177)
If the Colts are smart at all, they worked in a hot read into every passing concept that did not have one during the bye. If the blitz is coming, Jones needs to make they pay with the quick hit to Warren, Downs or Taylor.

I think there is a big dependency on Jones. I only have the broadcast film, but it seems Like I have seen multiple times where 28 is open on a quick 2-3 yard route.

I'm not convinced by his instincts to know when he is in deep trouble and needs to hit his hot read, or ffs protect the ball.

Oldcolt 11-13-2025 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pez (Post 334199)
I think there is a big dependency on Jones. I only have the broadcast film, but it seems Like I have seen multiple times where 28 is open on a quick 2-3 yard route.

I'm not convinced by his instincts to know when he is in deep trouble and needs to hit his hot read, or ffs protect the ball.

I think you are correct about instincts. I don't think these are going to change. He will always fumble the ball more than most QBs. I don't think that is absolutely fatal, especially with this team. He has enough really good qualities that if you can somehow mitigate the fumbles so they don't end up happening in batches the team can overcome them. It isn't like he falls apart when he fumbles. He had some incredible throws after fumbling like crazy against Atlanta. I have no idea if this is fixable but I sure hope it is (by that I mean keeping the fumes from multiplying in a game).

CletusPyle 11-13-2025 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 334172)
Pay Pierce long term. Not 100% convinced yet that we should be ln long term with Jones (not that I matter but I am about 80% convinced-way up from maybe 5% at the beginning of the year)

I think we need to upgrade our backup, whether that is Anthony or Leonard....I like resigning Jones but I would rather have someone backing him up that could replace him if needed. I know the Colts haven't given up on AR, but realistically, the guy is done in my opinion.

YDFL Commish 11-13-2025 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 334177)
He also needs to learn to climb the pocket better rather than bail out back or to the side.

How he responds will be, IMO, the read needed to see if he should be paid long term.

If I were his QB coach, I would be drilling him on climbing the pocket constantly.

ChoppedWood 11-13-2025 10:06 PM

BTW, just to get this on record- AD Mitchell sucks in a green and white uniform too!

ChoppedWood 11-13-2025 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 334260)
BTW, just to get this on record- AD Mitchell sucks in a green and white uniform too!

Man he doesn't just suck, he is atrocious at football! How in the fuck did this guy ever get drafted period?

ChoppedWood 11-13-2025 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 334266)
Man he doesn't just suck, he is atrocious at football! How in the fuck did this guy ever get drafted period?

And he MIGHT be like the 4th or 5th best player on the entire team! YIKES they are so shitty!

Colts And Orioles 11-17-2025 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 334162)
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In the Top-25, Daniel Jones is at #3, and Alec Pierce is at #7.



2026 NFL Free Agency ...... Early Top-25 Ranking and Predictions

(By Matt Bowen and Jeremy Fowler)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-jones-pickens

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Michael Pittman l wants the Colts to bring Alec Pierce back in 2026 and beyond, and he hopes that a deal gets done sooner rather than later.



Michael Pittman Makes a Pitch for the Colts to Re-Sign Alec Pierce Soon

(By Paul Bretl)

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/story...n/87323707007/

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