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Chromeburn 10-19-2022 02:36 PM

JT and Shaq
 
Are out practicing today. Might see their return this weekend. Looking likely.

Blackmon as well.

JAFF 10-19-2022 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 245355)
Are out practicing today. Might see their return this weekend. Looking likely.

Blackmon as well.

Now if Leonard, can avoid getting drilled by his teammates, game on

Chromeburn 10-19-2022 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 245361)
Now if Leonard, can avoid getting drilled by his teammates, game on

I don't know, Zaire seems to hit anything that moves.

dwilli57 10-19-2022 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 245367)
I don't know, Zaire seems to hit anything that moves.

I see Zaire leads the league (along with Roquon Smith) in tackles at 66.

CanuckColt 10-19-2022 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 245361)
Now if Leonard, can avoid getting drilled by his teammates, game on

Leonard has regressed a lot...especially playing Mike...he is not the same impact player we have become used to.

JAFF 10-19-2022 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dwilli57 (Post 245383)
I see Zaire leads the league (along with Roquon Smith) in tackles at 66.

He would have the lead if they counted Leonard

omahacolt 10-19-2022 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CanuckColt (Post 245389)
Leonard has regressed a lot...especially playing Mike...he is not the same impact player we have become used to.

did the quarter of play this year tell you all of that?

Brylok 10-19-2022 08:36 PM

I'll be surprised if Leonard plays. His nose was broken so badly he needed surgery. We'll see.

JAFF 10-19-2022 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by CanuckColt (Post 245389)
Leonard has regressed a lot...especially playing Mike...he is not the same impact player we have become used to.

He missed the preaseason. He finally gets close to normal and get a serious head injury to friendly fire.

Yeah, he’s not what he was…….yet.

YDFL Commish 10-19-2022 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 245402)
I'll be surprised if Leonard plays. His nose was broken so badly he needed surgery. We'll see.

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If Shaq does play, I'm sure it will be with a different face mask and or perhaps a shield.

JAFF 10-19-2022 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 245407)
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If Shaq does play, I'm sure it will be with a different face mask and or perhaps a shield.

And at safety, well behind Franklin

Coltsalr 10-20-2022 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CanuckColt (Post 245389)
Leonard has regressed a lot...especially playing Mike...he is not the same impact player we have become used to.

You've been trolling Colts boards with overly negative takes for....over a decade now?

JAFF 10-20-2022 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 245427)
You've been trolling Colts boards with overly negative takes for....over a decade now?

He is consistent. Its not as if this website is filled with a happy happy joy joy group.

CanuckColt 10-20-2022 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 245395)
did the quarter of play this year tell you all of that?

I don't have much regard for Darius Leonard any more.
He has had crappy karma ever since he decided to change his name.
The existing linebackers have settled in to Brady's system quite well...he probably won't add much.
We should get what we can for him if anyone will take his dumb contract.

Butter 10-20-2022 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 245427)
You've been trolling Colts boards with overly negative takes for....over a decade now?

If it wasn't for bad takes they wouldn't have any at all.

Racehorse 10-20-2022 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 245478)
If it wasn't for bad takes they wouldn't have any at all.

Doom, despair and agony

JAFF 10-20-2022 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 245480)
Doom, despair and agony

Dogs and cats living together………..MASS HYSTERIA!!!!!!!!!

Brylok 10-20-2022 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 245407)
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If Shaq does play, I'm sure it will be with a different face mask and or perhaps a shield.

I would imagine so. Hopefully both.

Brylok 10-20-2022 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 245456)
He is consistent. Its not as if this website is filled with a happy happy joy joy group.

We all got banned from there. Some of us multiple times. That's why we're here.

YDFL Commish 10-21-2022 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 245485)
We all got banned from there. Some of us multiple times. That's why we're here.

I never got banned because, in the few times I visited, the place disgusted me so much I never felt the need to post anything there.

Racehorse 10-21-2022 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 245481)
Dogs and cats living together………..MASS HYSTERIA!!!!!!!!!

How young are you anyway?

apballin 10-21-2022 07:45 AM

If they both are full go today…. I’d say they’re playing

I hope Maniac comes out in a new face mask, dark visor, and has 2 defensive TDs

JAFF 10-21-2022 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 245499)
How young are you anyway?

Young as I feel.

A Bill Murry quote is always appropriate

CletusPyle 10-21-2022 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CanuckColt (Post 245477)
I don't have much regard for Darius Leonard any more.
He has had crappy karma ever since he decided to change his name.
The existing linebackers have settled in to Brady's system quite well...he probably won't add much.
We should get what we can for him if anyone will take his dumb contract.

I already commented that since he's changed his name he hasn't done shit for us! :D

apballin 10-21-2022 01:47 PM

Well looks like we gotta wait another week for Maniac but JT will be back this week

njcoltfan 10-21-2022 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 245536)
Well looks like we gotta wait another week for Maniac but JT will be back this week

Might as well put him on IR , and let him get ready for next year !!

ChaosTheory 10-21-2022 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 245545)
Might as well put him on IR , and let him get ready for next year !!

There are 10 games after the Titans this week.

Reich said he's medically cleared. But he had only just returned when he was injured again and now he's had another 2+ weeks of inactivity. He'll be alright.

Butter 10-21-2022 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 245545)
Might as well put him on IR , and let him get ready for next year !!

That would be dumb

Mr. Session 10-22-2022 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CanuckColt (Post 245477)
The existing linebackers have settled in to Brady's system quite well...he probably won't add much.
We should get what we can for him if anyone will take his dumb contract.

How retarded am I for considering there may be a sliver of legitimacy to this take?

ChaosTheory 10-22-2022 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 245571)
How retarded am I for considering there may be a sliver of legitimacy to this take?

There is some. We're 3-2-1 largely due to our defense that hasn't had him.
So you might think we don't really need him to be good enough. What you're weighing is the value you could get for him vs. what this defense is missing without him.

His coverage from the LB spot is a tough thing for a guy like Franklin replicate, as well as he's played. And the turnovers he's produced are unlike any player in the entire league, which is an element we're missing on D so far.

Oldcolt 10-22-2022 10:15 AM

To me this proves that it was a mistake to to give him 20 million a year. He is a great player but he isn't worth that kind of money at that position. Team would be better off with the linebackers we currently are playing, spent the extra money/draft picks we would have gotten for him in a trade elsewhere (god knows we could use them on the offensive line for sure). Plenty of people at the time felt that no player at his position is worth that amount, I believe they were correct.

apballin 10-22-2022 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 245573)
There is some. We're 3-2-1 largely due to our defense that hasn't had him.
So you might think we don't really need him to be good enough. What you're weighing is the value you could get for him vs. what this defense is missing without him.

His coverage from the LB spot is a tough thing for a guy like Franklin replicate, as well as he's played. And the turnovers he's produced are unlike any player in the entire league, which is an element we're missing on D so far.

The way Grover and Buckner are playing Leonard should be able to patrol the middle of the field freely in both the passing game and come downhill on the run. Not to mention the way he covers sideline to sideline on screen passes and stretch runs

I feel like he’s gonna boost an already good defense

YDFL Commish 10-22-2022 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 245573)
There is some. We're 3-2-1 largely due to our defense that hasn't had him.
So you might think we don't really need him to be good enough. What you're weighing is the value you could get for him vs. what this defense is missing without him.

His coverage from the LB spot is a tough thing for a guy like Franklin replicate, as well as he's played. And the turnovers he's produced are unlike any player in the entire league, which is an element we're missing on D so far.

Exactly, I believe Shaq, last season had the most forced turnovers (12) since Charles "Peanut" Tillman" had 13 in 2012.

You can't replace that You just can't. I'm here to tell you that I respect the hell out of Zaire Franklin and E.J. Speeds play, but even they would tell you that they can't do that.

Chromeburn 10-22-2022 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 245579)
Exactly, I believe Shaq, last season had the most forced turnovers (12) since Charles "Peanut" Tillman" had 13 in 2012.

You can't replace that You just can't. I'm here to tell you that I respect the hell out of Zaire Franklin and E.J. Speeds play, but even they would tell you that they can't do that.

Yup. We have a competent replacement in there now and the defense is effective. Zaire is doing a good job and makes tackles, not terrible in coverage either. But Shaq takes it to another level. He is a turnover-generating machine. That is so valuable in today's NFL. Where an extra possession can give you the game bc so many games are decided by the kicker at the end.

Spike 10-22-2022 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 245579)
Exactly, I believe Shaq, last season had the most forced turnovers (12) since Charles "Peanut" Tillman" had 13 in 2012.

You can't replace that You just can't. I'm here to tell you that I respect the hell out of Zaire Franklin and E.J. Speeds play, but even they would tell you that they can't do that.

Yep, not sure where all this IR him or trade him garbage is coming from. Shaq is a difference maker. He did want to play against the Tits, but the coaches are holding him out for another week to make sure he heals up completely.

omahacolt 10-22-2022 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 245507)
Young as I feel.

A Bill Murry quote is always appropriate

your posts are always terrible

the consistency is pretty astounding

TheMugwump 10-22-2022 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 245571)
How retarded am I for considering there may be a sliver of legitimacy to this take?

Not at all. If there was a team willing to trade a better than average left tackle for him, I'd do it. It would improve the offense, without compromising what the defense has already been this year. In addition, it would trim the payroll. All at the cost of what Shaq might add to the defenses already top-10 play.

BUT, no one would trade a good LT for him and his contract (unless his name is Jerry Jones). And we know that extra cap room won't be used to sign a top-shelf FA in the off-season.

Agnes! Get the Cowboys on line one!

Dam8610 10-23-2022 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMugwump (Post 245614)
Not at all. If there was a team willing to trade a better than average left tackle for him, I'd do it. It would improve the offense, without compromising what the defense has already been this year. In addition, it would trim the payroll. All at the cost of what Shaq might add to the defenses already top-10 play.

BUT, no one would trade a good LT for him and his contract (unless his name is Jerry Jones). And we know that extra cap room won't be used to sign a top-shelf FA in the off-season.

Agnes! Get the Cowboys on line one!

That's an interesting thought, but I think both sides say no to Tyron Smith for Shaq Leonard. From the Colts perspective, they're getting older and more expensive. From the Cowboys perspective, they're losing a top 10 LT off of a contending team.

Unfortunately the best team to get a LT from would be the Texans, but there's no chance they'd trade us Tunsil, even for Leonard.


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