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Coltsalr 03-09-2022 02:53 PM

Colts Trade Wentz to Washington
 
https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...261108742?s=10

Good riddance.

ChoppedWood 03-09-2022 02:55 PM

More than a pack of 70's porn mags and a box of cigs, so I say a win for the Colts.

Coltsalr 03-09-2022 02:58 PM

https://twitter.com/adamschefter/sta...948730880?s=21

They’re paying his FULL contract too!

rcubed 03-09-2022 03:04 PM

wow!

YDFL Commish 03-09-2022 03:06 PM

For two 3rd's. Good deal for us.

ChaosTheory 03-09-2022 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 225329)
wow!

No shit...

rm1369 03-09-2022 03:11 PM

Pretty good deal for the Colts considering.

ChaosTheory 03-09-2022 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 225330)
For two 3rd's. Good deal for us.

On top of getting out from that contract, too.

We were 5th in cap space before, I think. We must be #1 now, right?

daedge 03-09-2022 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 225330)
For two 3rd's. Good deal for us.

One of which could become a second, too. Also, swapping second round picks moves the Colts up to 42 from 47 in this year's draft.

Sure, the Eagles fleeced us, but we did well to get what we got for him.

YDFL Commish 03-09-2022 03:36 PM

Washington fans can't be happy about this.

Spike 03-09-2022 03:41 PM

This is an absolute WIN WIN for the Colts. I got so fucking sick of Wentz, so glad to be rid of his ass. The compensation is more than I could have ever expected for his sorry ass. Good luck with that trade Washington.

One of the 3rd rounders could turn into a 2nd rounder.

Colts And Orioles 03-09-2022 03:45 PM

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I liked Wentz, and I was one of the few very Colts fans who expected him to have a solid season in 2022 after having had a year of experience under his belt with his new team.

That said, this sounds like a great deal ...... we may have to essentially sacrifice one season while we're scrounging around for a long-term solution at quarterback, but we may have had to do that anyway if Wentz was still here and did not have the good season that I was expecting him to have. I could live with one mediocre, Jacoby Brissett-ish type of season like we had in 2019 if we could bounce right back after finding a bona-fide top quarterback for the following season (like we did when we acquired Philip Rivers for the 2020 season, and went 11-5 and took the Bills right down to the wire in a playoff game on their home-field.)

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ChaosTheory 03-09-2022 03:49 PM

It's already been updated. The Colts are now #1 in cap space at just under $70m. That's nearly $14m ahead of #2 LAC.

Cannot believe they got out of that contract.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

Chaka 03-09-2022 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by daedge (Post 225341)
One of which could become a second, too. Also, swapping second round picks moves the Colts up to 42 from 47 in this year's draft.

Sure, the Eagles fleeced us, but we did well to get what we got for him.

Agreed. Assuming Wentz plays 70% of the Wash snaps, the Colts' net loss from a draft capital standpoint is the difference between a first and second round pick, minus the slightly better draft positioning that Wash is providing to us in 2nd and 3rd round this year.

Not a bad exit from a gamble that didn't work out the way the Colts wanted. Say what you want about Ballard, but he's a decisive guy and does not linger on his mistakes. I continue to think he's one of the best.

That said, I'm bummed it didn't work out, and I'm curious to see where we go from here.

Chaka 03-09-2022 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 225346)
It's already been updated. The Colts are now #1 in cap space at just under $70m. That's nearly $14m ahead of #2 LAC.

Cannot believe they got out of that contract.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

Wentz's contract wasn't all that bad for a veteran starting QB these days, and it might have increased his tradability. If I recall correctly, they'll be committed to him for 1 year at about $25M, and then will have three option years with no cap impact if he's cut.

ChaosTheory 03-09-2022 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 225349)
Wentz's contract wasn't all that bad for a veteran starting QB these days, and it might have increased his tradability. If I recall correctly, they'll be committed to him for 1 year at about $25M, and then will have three option years with no cap impact if he's cut.

True, the QB market is bananas nowadays. But the Colts not wanting him and being able to knock off over $28m is a relief.

Chromeburn 03-09-2022 05:16 PM

Been waiting for this. I suspected Tampa or Washington. Be fun watching him play the eagles twice a year. All the Eagle Wentz truthers will be so torn who to root for.

nate505 03-09-2022 05:47 PM

https://media1.giphy.com/media/igJK9...giphy.gif&ct=g

Hoopsdoc 03-09-2022 06:30 PM

Random internet comment- Wentz will once again be throwing to the Eagles next season.

This had to happen. I actually think this reflects well in Ballard and Reich. They made a mistake, it was CLEARLY a mistake and it wasn’t going to work. Instead of letting their egos dictate that they try it again and hope for the best, they swallowed their pride and did what they had to do.

I don’t know what they’re gonna do at quarterback next year. They may actually be worse, that’s a real possibility. But they had to do something because they KNEW Wentz wasn’t gonna work. They have to keep looking.

Hoopsdoc 03-09-2022 06:38 PM

Someone said Washingtons super bowl odds actually went down after this trade. I don’t know how accurate that is but if true, it’s hilarious.

I would be FURIOUS if I were a redskins fan.

Oldcolt 03-09-2022 07:21 PM

We talk is such a waste of physical talent. To me the most telling thing is that the lack of support he got from the locker room. Glad this is over

rm1369 03-09-2022 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 225375)
Random internet comment- Wentz will once again be throwing to the Eagles next season.

This had to happen. I actually think this reflects well in Ballard and Reich. They made a mistake, it was CLEARLY a mistake and it wasn’t going to work. Instead of letting their egos dictate that they try it again and hope for the best, they swallowed their pride and did what they had to do.

I don’t know what they’re gonna do at quarterback next year. They may actually be worse, that’s a real possibility. But they had to do something because they KNEW Wentz wasn’t gonna work. They have to keep looking.

In general I don’t disagree, but I believe Irsay provided them quite a push as well.

JAFF 03-09-2022 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 225346)
It's already been updated. The Colts are now #1 in cap space at just under $70m. That's nearly $14m ahead of #2 LAC.

Cannot believe they got out of that contract.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

Without a Qb

apballin 03-09-2022 07:57 PM

We play Washington at home this season

That’ll be interesting

YDFL Commish 03-09-2022 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 225389)
In general I don’t disagree, but I believe Irsay provided them quite a push as well.

Absolutely Irsay did not want Went back. My feeling is that Irsay and Ballard said fuck no and Reich had to relent.

I heard on the radio today that Irsay said that he didn't want any anti-vaxers back. Anyone know if r is true?

Hoopsdoc 03-09-2022 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 225401)
Absolutely Irsay did not want Went back. My feeling is that Irsay and Ballard said fuck no and Reich had to relent.

I heard on the radio today that Irsay said that he didn't want any anti-vaxers back. Anyone know if r is true?

I hope that’s not true because that would mean Leonard, Kelly, and Q won’t be back.

Hoopsdoc 03-09-2022 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 225389)
In general I don’t disagree, but I believe Irsay provided them quite a push as well.

Absolutely he nudged them in the right direction.

IndyNorm 03-09-2022 08:22 PM

Well done Ballard. I figured we'd be lucky to get a mid to late round pick for Wentz. Maybe Wash's GM only watched Wentz's film for the first half or the season or fell asleep for the 2nd half :D. Either way, glad they gave up as much as they did.

Hopefully Ballard has a plan in place to bring in at least a competent vet. Can't see him wanting to roll with Ehlinger or throwing a 2nd/3rd round rookie to the fire like that, but stranger things have happened I suppose.

IndyNorm 03-09-2022 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 225403)
I hope that’s not true because that would mean Leonard, Kelly, and Q won’t be back.

I can't believe he'd say that considering how many of our players, including some of our best players, are non vaxxed.

Racehorse 03-09-2022 08:39 PM

I am glad posters here have more sense than those on the Facebook groups. We are all glad the experiment is over, while those morons are crying over this move.

Ironshaft 03-09-2022 08:43 PM

Dalton, Newton, Winston, Bridgewater, Trubski. Mariota.

My guess is we bring in one of those guys, draft someone if management thinks there is someone who can become a starter and have Sam in reserve.

If we don't draft someone in 2022, we will likely have the 2023 WAS 2nd round pick to help trade up for a QB in 2023.

JAFF 03-09-2022 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 225410)
I can't believe he'd say that considering how many of our players, including some of our best players, are non vaxxed.

There is nothing on the internet right now. Irsay is smart enough not to put something like that in public

apballin 03-09-2022 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 225412)
Dalton, Newton, Winston, Bridgewater, Trubski. Mariota.

My guess is we bring in one of those guys, draft someone if management thinks there is someone who can become a starter and have Sam in reserve.

If we don't draft someone in 2022, we will likely have the 2023 WAS 2nd round pick to help trade up for a QB in 2023.

That’s not ALL-IN, this team can’t afford a development QB we’re ready to win now

Oldcolt 03-09-2022 09:40 PM

Jordan Love may be available. Whomever we get will be flawed.

JAFF 03-09-2022 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 225418)
Jordan Love may be available. Whomever we get will be flawed.

Why would they trade him? They still need a backup

Butter 03-09-2022 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 225416)
That’s not ALL-IN, this team can’t afford a development QB we’re ready to win now

Outside of Wilson and Rodgers that carry barely more than a 0% chance of something here, who would you suggest they sign/trade for that puts us over the top?

apballin 03-09-2022 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 225420)
Outside of Wilson and Rodgers that carry barely more than a 0% chance of something here, who would you suggest they sign/trade for that puts us over the top?

I’ve stated it from the beginning Jimmy G

Oldcolt 03-09-2022 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 225419)
Why would they trade him? They still need a backup

Two reasons. One the guy is a first round draft choice and I doubt he will be happy to sit for the next 4 years. Secondly it would be a dick move by Green Bay. It would sabotage his career to sit for the first six years of his career behind Rogers. I doubt they will do that or that he would let them.

JAFF 03-09-2022 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 225425)
Two reasons. One the guy is a first round draft choice and I doubt he will be happy to sit for the next 4 years. Secondly it would be a dick move by Green Bay. It would sabotage his career to sit for the first six years of his career behind Rogers. I doubt they will do that or that he would let them.

Love is on a cheap rookie contract. The front office doesnt give a rats ass about him being happy. It is not summer camp. Its a big $ business and he was happy to sign it.

Hoopsdoc 03-09-2022 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 225427)
Love is on a cheap rookie contract. The front office doesnt give a rats ass about him being happy. It is not summer camp. Its a big $ business and he was happy to sign it.

Plus, he was absolutely atrocious when he got a chance to play last season. I’m not sure I’d want him.


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