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AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-04-2022 07:58 PM

Colts hire Gus Bradley as new Defensive Coordinator
 
https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...43166223925256

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The Colts are hiring Gus Bradley as defensive coordinator.
https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1489748377822707715

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We know Chris Ballard loved that Seattle Legion of Boom defense that Gus Bradley helped build. With his arrival in Indy, this means Colts can presumably stick with the 4-3.

Discflinger 02-04-2022 08:02 PM

Get on The Gus Bus!

JAFF 02-04-2022 08:31 PM


3-4 or 4-3 doesnt matter. You wind up with 4 up front before the snap. Bradley will use the zone concept that the Colts already use. They wont need to retool the entire D

apballin 02-04-2022 08:54 PM

I like it!!!

Racehorse 02-04-2022 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Discflinger (Post 223100)
Get on The Gus Bus!

Slip out the back, Jack and make a new plan, Stan.

Brylok 02-05-2022 12:35 AM

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Colts And Orioles 02-05-2022 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 223104)



I like it !!!



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMJ_cnj2g2g

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apballin 02-05-2022 11:20 AM

Experienced guy responsible for one of the best defenses in history

Raiders defense played a lot better down the stretch of the season and he didn’t have the best talent on the roster outside of Crosby and Yannick

I’m excited to see what he can do with this roster and hopefully he can get the pass rushers to improve

Also wonder if Bradley’s hire will entice some of his former players to come here

Oldcolt 02-05-2022 11:22 AM

Seems like a 'safe' hire. Old white guy. Doesn't excite me in the least, but really not coaching hire would have. I understand that most freaks and Colt fans think our biggest need is QB. Not me. Teams have won the Super Bowl with mediocre QBs before and will again. A team with Wentz at QB can win, just not because of him. A team that rushes the passer like we have the last few years will never win a Super Bowl. To me it is our biggest weakness, one that is impossible to overcome with the quality of QBs we play. It explains why we suck at holding a lead and are shit in the 4th quarter. Bradley blitzes less than even we did last year so our young guys better make a move if we are going to be anything more than a bubble team trying to be one and done as the best we can do. I have zero faith but tons of hope.

IndyNorm 02-06-2022 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 223120)
Seems like a 'safe' hire. Old white guy. Doesn't excite me in the least, but really not coaching hire would have. I understand that most freaks and Colt fans think our biggest need is QB. Not me. Teams have won the Super Bowl with mediocre QBs before and will again. A team with Wentz at QB can win, just not because of him. A team that rushes the passer like we have the last few years will never win a Super Bowl. To me it is our biggest weakness, one that is impossible to overcome with the quality of QBs we play. It explains why we suck at holding a lead and are shit in the 4th quarter. Bradley blitzes less than even we did last year so our young guys better make a move if we are going to be anything more than a bubble team trying to be one and done as the best we can do. I have zero faith but tons of hope.

Agree that pass rush is a huge issue, but it should probably do considered 1B in Ballard's priorities with QB being 1A. Looking at the last 10 Super Bowls at least 1 team (typically the winner) has/had an elite QB and more often that not both teams do/did.

'21- 2/2 (Stafford/Burrow)
'20 - 2/2 (Brady/Mahomes)
'19 - 1/2 (Mahomes/Garoppolo)
'18 - 1/2 (Brady/Goff)
'17 - 1/2 (Foles/Brady) - Although Foles caught lightening in a bottle in the NFCCG and SB
'16 - 2/2 (Brady/Ryan)
'15 - 1/2 (Manning/Newton) - Could arguably be 2/2, but putting 1/2 b/c Peyton was done in '15.
'14 - 2/2 (Brady/Wilson)
'13 - 2/2 (Wilson/Manning)
'12 - 0/2 (Flacko/Kaepernick) - Arguably 1/2 b/c Kaepernick was really good that year and the following before dropping like a rock

Brylok 02-06-2022 04:01 PM

I keep reading here and there that Ballard is obsessed with the "legion of boom" defense that Seattle had ten years ago and wants to replicate it with Bradley. The problem with that is the Colts don't have anywhere near the level of defensive talent the Seahawks had. Do a google search for that old LOB roster. We're nowhere near it. Maybe Buckner and Leonard could have played with those guys. And now I'm reading that Ben Banogu is supposed to have a big role in the new defense. Yikes.

JAFF 02-06-2022 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 223155)
I keep reading here and there that Ballard is obsessed with the "legion of boom" defense that Seattle had ten years ago and wants to replicate it with Bradley. The problem with that is the Colts don't have anywhere near the level of defensive talent the Seahawks had. Do a google search for that old LOB roster. We're nowhere near it. Maybe Buckner and Leonard could have played with those guys. And now I'm reading that Ben Banogu is supposed to have a big role in the new defense. Yikes.

Where are you reading that?

Oldcolt 02-06-2022 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 223150)
Agree that pass rush is a huge issue, but it should probably do considered 1B in Ballard's priorities with QB being 1A. Looking at the last 10 Super Bowls at least 1 team (typically the winner) has/had an elite QB and more often that not both teams do/did.

'21- 2/2 (Stafford/Burrow)
'20 - 2/2 (Brady/Mahomes)
'19 - 1/2 (Mahomes/Garoppolo)
'18 - 1/2 (Brady/Goff)
'17 - 1/2 (Foles/Brady) - Although Foles caught lightening in a bottle in the NFCCG and SB
'16 - 2/2 (Brady/Ryan)
'15 - 1/2 (Manning/Newton) - Could arguably be 2/2, but putting 1/2 b/c Peyton was done in '15.
'14 - 2/2 (Brady/Wilson)
'13 - 2/2 (Wilson/Manning)
'12 - 0/2 (Flacko/Kaepernick) - Arguably 1/2 b/c Kaepernick was really good that year and the following before dropping like a rock

That is my point. All of those teams could rush the passer. I agree it is much easier with a pass rush AND a great QB but if I can only have one it would be the pass rush.

apballin 02-06-2022 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 223155)
I keep reading here and there that Ballard is obsessed with the "legion of boom" defense that Seattle had ten years ago and wants to replicate it with Bradley. The problem with that is the Colts don't have anywhere near the level of defensive talent the Seahawks had. Do a google search for that old LOB roster. We're nowhere near it. Maybe Buckner and Leonard could have played with those guys. And now I'm reading that Ben Banogu is supposed to have a big role in the new defense. Yikes.

Well there can’t be another Chancellor because his hits would be illegal today

Oldcolt 02-07-2022 01:50 AM

Brylok, where did you hear Banogu is part of the plan?

Brylok 02-07-2022 01:58 PM

It wasn't an official announcement or anything. I read Colts stuff from several places: here, dotcom, stampede blue, Colts reddit (r/Colts), and various Twitter accounts from Colts related people (Keefer, Holder, Chappell, Wells, Bremer, Doyle, Bowen, Kravitz, etc). So it was somewhere in those. I just kinda rolled my eyes when I read that and kept scrolling. Keefer I'm sure mentioned the LOB. Others did too but I don't remember where it was specifically. I just thought it was weird and cringeworthy.

Brylok 02-07-2022 02:23 PM

There's mention of it in a reddit thread talking about the scheme Bradley is going to run. I've seen it elsewhere too, but that's one example. Again, it isn't anything official.

Oldcolt 02-07-2022 02:46 PM

Banogu intrigues me. He doesn't even suit up most games but is still on the roster. Somebody in the organization likes the guy and I would like to find out why. He plays so sparingly it is hard to have an opinion on the guy. Maybe new coaching and a somewhat different scheme will change the direction of his career. I'm not holding my breath but why not?

Brylok 02-07-2022 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 223207)
Banogu intrigues me. He doesn't even suit up most games but is still on the roster. Somebody in the organization likes the guy and I would like to find out why. He plays so sparingly it is hard to have an opinion on the guy. Maybe new coaching and a somewhat different scheme will change the direction of his career. I'm not holding my breath but why not?

In that reddit thread it was suggested that he didn't fit into Eberflus' scheme and was left on the bench. He's supposed to fill the LEO/Joker spot under Bradley... whatever that means. I don't know...

Puck 02-07-2022 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 223210)
In that reddit thread it was suggested that he didn't fit into Eberflus' scheme and was left on the bench. He's supposed to fill the LEO/Joker spot under Bradley... whatever that means. I don't know...

Pass rush from the LB spot. Moves the line around to some 3 down lineman and the LEO or 4 down and the extra pass rusher. More evidence Ballard has always wanted the Seattle style D. He said it back in 2019 I think

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...w-does-it-work

Oldcolt 02-07-2022 06:39 PM

I would love to get some value out of that second rounder we used on Banogu

Brylok 02-07-2022 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 223216)
Pass rush from the LB spot. Moves the line around to some 3 down lineman and the LEO or 4 down and the extra pass rusher. More evidence Ballard has always wanted the Seattle style D. He said it back in 2019 I think

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...w-does-it-work

Y'all know FAR more than I do about technique, schemes, x's and o's, etc, than I do. I always learn stuff here.

HoosierinFL 02-08-2022 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 223203)
It wasn't an official announcement or anything. I read Colts stuff from several places: here, dotcom, stampede blue, Colts reddit (r/Colts), and various Twitter accounts from Colts related people (Keefer, Holder, Chappell, Wells, Bremer, Doyle, Bowen, Kravitz, etc). So it was somewhere in those. I just kinda rolled my eyes when I read that and kept scrolling. Keefer I'm sure mentioned the LOB. Others did too but I don't remember where it was specifically. I just thought it was weird and cringeworthy.

Those people are all full of it. Bradley has barely been on the job a few days and suddenly these guys think they know exactly what he's going to do with these various players.

HoosierinFL 02-08-2022 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 223210)
In that reddit thread it was suggested that he didn't fit into Eberflus' scheme and was left on the bench. He's supposed to fill the LEO/Joker spot under Bradley... whatever that means. I don't know...

So I've just done some reading on this LEO defense, and while Banogu could maybe fill that LEO role, where does that leave Kwity Paye?

As I understand the LEO defensive line, Stewart could be the 1 tech, Buckner the 3 tech, and LEO rushes from the weakside and you need a "Big End" as the 5 tech (or sometimes 6-tech) on the strong side. This "Big End" would be built more like a DT, than an edge-rushing DE.

So it seems more likely to me that Odeyingbo, listed as 25 lbs heavier than Paye, would play the Big End role and Paye (backed up by Turay? or Banogu) becomes the LEO. Odeyingbo would be playing the same role that Joey Bosa played in the Chargers defense when Bradley was there, and Paye would be in the Melvin Ingram role.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-08-2022 11:28 AM

Looks like Bradley has his DB Coach on board.

https://twitter.com/HolderStephen/st...88554838089733

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New Colts DC Gus Bradley is still working on his staff, but as of now, it looks likely former Raiders DBs coach Ron Milus will join him in Indy.

Milus is highly regarded. Has coached Eric Weddle, Jason Verrett, Derwin James, Casey Hayward Jr and Desmond King, among others.

Brylok 02-08-2022 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 223245)
Those people are all full of it. Bradley has barely been on the job a few days and suddenly these guys think they know exactly what he's going to do with these various players.

Honestly, I'm just bored and reporting what I've read. Personally, I'm down on Ballard, Reich, and the Colts in general. I don't think we'll win the division or a playoff game next season, and I'm just looking for some hope. And this board is usually dead as a doornail and boring during the off season.

Brylok 02-08-2022 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 223246)
So I've just done some reading on this LEO defense, and while Banogu could maybe fill that LEO role, where does that leave Kwity Paye?

As I understand the LEO defensive line, Stewart could be the 1 tech, Buckner the 3 tech, and LEO rushes from the weakside and you need a "Big End" as the 5 tech (or sometimes 6-tech) on the strong side. This "Big End" would be built more like a DT, than an edge-rushing DE.

So it seems more likely to me that Odeyingbo, listed as 25 lbs heavier than Paye, would play the Big End role and Paye (backed up by Turay? or Banogu) becomes the LEO. Odeyingbo would be playing the same role that Joey Bosa played in the Chargers defense when Bradley was there, and Paye would be in the Melvin Ingram role.

I'm definitely NOT a technical/scheme/x and o's guy. I leave that to y'all who know about that sort of stuff. I just watch the games and try to learn from those of you with knowledge of the technical things.

JAFF 02-08-2022 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 223246)
So I've just done some reading on this LEO defense, and while Banogu could maybe fill that LEO role, where does that leave Kwity Paye?

As I understand the LEO defensive line, Stewart could be the 1 tech, Buckner the 3 tech, and LEO rushes from the weakside and you need a "Big End" as the 5 tech (or sometimes 6-tech) on the strong side. This "Big End" would be built more like a DT, than an edge-rushing DE.

So it seems more likely to me that Odeyingbo, listed as 25 lbs heavier than Paye, would play the Big End role and Paye (backed up by Turay? or Banogu) becomes the LEO. Odeyingbo would be playing the same role that Joey Bosa played in the Chargers defense when Bradley was there, and Paye would be in the Melvin Ingram role.

Paye is athletic, quick and strong. Freeney could have played it, with his speed, so its not as if its one size fit. Paye has a good motor, he needs more coaching on how to play the outside. Paye played inside often at Michigan. How would it look if they stepped him down to DT and put Bruckner at RDE?

Puck 02-08-2022 05:26 PM

Maybe this will help

https://twitter.com/ZachHicks2/statu...aiRm6mtGK7UV9w

Puck 02-08-2022 05:34 PM

I also asked Lawrence Owen @Colts_Law to do a breakdown for us

Brylok 02-08-2022 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 223284)

I forgot about Zach Hicks. I'll add him to the follow list.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-09-2022 04:25 PM

Bradley met with the media today. Joel Erickson captured several talking points.

Video of the press conference is also available on colts.com.



https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...57863004434436

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Gus Bradley mentions his connection to Philip Rivers, says he talked to Rivers about the situation in Indy.
https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...58222057787394

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Bradley acknowledges that typically he’s been hired to build up defenses that have been in the cellar, and this is a little bit different. There’s already a foundation, mentions Buckner-Leonard-Moore, specifically.
https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...58503965392896

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Bradley says he has a long-running relationship with Matt Eberflus, is well aware of the foundation set.
https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...59080329773056

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Bradley says his scheme is more of a match principle, based on pre-snap, post-snap indicators.

The beginning stages of the Hawk 3 was landmark-based
https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...59526784135170

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Bradley says evolution from landmark to match emphasis has come from the way teams attacked the Hawk 3, found weaknesses.
https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...60260187492356

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Bradley has cited Philip Rivers and Jon Gruden as offensive minds who’ve tested his scheme and helped it evolve.
https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...62434388856838

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On the LEO: Bradley says that spot opens up a place for the speed rusher, the 250-pound-type guy.

Playing time for those types of players was often an issue in the last defense.
https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...64612050612226

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On the LEO, Kwity Paye’s speed and change of direction traits would fit that, even though he’s known as more of a heavier player.

The question for me, there, is if Paye can continue to make a transition to a speed style after playing so much read and react in college.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-12-2022 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 223257)
Looks like Bradley has his DB Coach on board.

The Milus hiring is official. Also appears that the Colts are bringing in Richard Smith as the LB coach.

https://twitter.com/FieldYates/statu...68836515590149

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The Colts have officially hired former Raiders DBs coach Ron Milus as their secondary coach, per source. Milus has been coaching defensive backs in the NFL for nearly 30 years. Solid get for Indy’s DBs.
https://twitter.com/mchappell51/stat...80834779537408

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Colts also working on ex-Vegas LB coach Richard Smith. Both . . . Smith and Milus are . . . long-time aides to DC Gus Bradley.

omahacolt 02-13-2022 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 223210)
In that reddit thread it was suggested that he didn't fit into Eberflus' scheme and was left on the bench. He's supposed to fill the LEO/Joker spot under Bradley... whatever that means. I don't know...

well he wasn't a top 4 de and he didn't excel at special teams. that would lead to not suiting up most weeks

Oldcolt 02-23-2022 03:53 PM

Mathis says on twitter that the only issue with the Colts defensive line is coaching. He thinks the athletes are there but haven’t gotten the coaching they need. I’m hoping he is correct If so the next DL coach will be very interesting and important

Puck 02-23-2022 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 224376)
Mathis says on twitter that the only issue with the Colts defensive line is coaching. He thinks the athletes are there but haven’t gotten the coaching they need. I’m hoping he is correct If so the next DL coach will be very interesting and important

Ole Rob is posturing for a job. HA

Chromeburn 02-24-2022 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 224384)
Ole Rob is posturing for a job. HA

Didn’t we hire Rob, and he decided he wanted to go private?

All the sports writers seem to agree the coaching there has been sub par and that they need a good coach there.

smitty46953 02-24-2022 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 224384)
Ole Rob is posturing for a job. HA

That's what I thought too :cool:

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-24-2022 08:50 PM

The Colts have added Mike Mitchell to the staff as an Asst Secondary Coach.


https://twitter.com/HolderStephen/st...90399914602497

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Another former Colts player will be joining the coaching staff. Former NFL safety Mike Mitchell, a renowned leader as a player, will join Frank Reich’s staff as an assistant secondary coach, per league source. Mitchell was a 2nd round pick in 2009 and played 10 seasons.
https://twitter.com/HolderStephen/st...91636156739584

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This is the second such hire this week. Former Colts linebacker Cato June joined the staff earlier this week.

IndyNorm 02-24-2022 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 224490)
The Colts have added Mike Mitchell to the staff as an Asst Secondary Coach.


https://twitter.com/HolderStephen/st...90399914602497



https://twitter.com/HolderStephen/st...91636156739584

Wasn't Mike Mitchell a big influence on getting Quincy Wilson to play halfway decent for a season? If so, then that's probably a really good hire.


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