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Discflinger 12-22-2021 04:43 PM

COVID in the complex
 
Turay and Rock placed on Covid list along with Green from practice squad. Anyone know if they are vaccinated? If not they definitely will be out Saturday. I just hope that the list doesn’t grow.

Drewtone 12-22-2021 06:21 PM

I thought Rock was on the non-covid illness list yesterday and wasn't gonna be around?

JAFF 12-22-2021 06:52 PM

There is covid everywhere, the only way to stop it is roll up your sleeve and get yourself vaccinated

Puck 12-22-2021 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 216880)
There is covid everywhere, the only way to stop it is roll up your sleeve and get yourself vaccinated

So vaccinated don't get it? OR spread it?


Crap should have told my vaccinated friend who couldn't go to the game Saturday because she has it

JAFF 12-22-2021 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 216886)
So vaccinated don't get it? OR spread it?


Crap should have told my vaccinated friend who couldn't go to the game Saturday because she has it


They MAY spread it so put a mask over your PIEHOLE

Puck 12-22-2021 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 216888)
They MAY spread it so put a mask over your PIEHOLE

SMH. Perfect response

JAFF 12-22-2021 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 216886)
So vaccinated don't get it? OR spread it?


Crap should have told my vaccinated friend who couldn't go to the game Saturday because she has it

If you are vaccinated, you wont get it. If you put a mask over your piehole, you wont spread it.

Do unto others as they would do unto you

Puck 12-22-2021 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 216892)
If you are vaccinated, you wont get it. If you put a mask over your piehole, you wont spread it.

Do unto others as they would do unto you

I just said SHE WAS VACCINATED!!!!

JAFF 12-22-2021 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 216893)
I just said SHE WAS VACCINATED!!!!

That’s how you got that drip

Puck 12-22-2021 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 216894)
That’s how you got that drip

Don Leamon is that you?

rcubed 12-22-2021 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 216892)
If you are vaccinated, you wont get it. If you put a mask over your piehole, you wont spread it.

Do unto others as they would do unto you


You can still get it if vaccinated, but far less likely to really be affected by it - hospitalization, death, etc. Especially omicron which is more transmittable but less deadly when vaccinated.

Best way to stop spread is masking like was said.

Discflinger 12-22-2021 08:26 PM

I feel like warm weather teams are going to have a distinct advantage going forward where people aren’t driven indoors by the cold.

Puck 12-22-2021 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Discflinger (Post 216898)
I feel like warm weather teams are going to have a distinct advantage going forward where people aren’t driven indoors by the cold.

Possibly. The CDC says the peak month for the flu is February. I'm pretty sure it will all align

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Lov2fish 12-22-2021 08:48 PM

Thought Reich said Rock was effected by something else? Did I hear wrong. Jaff must have Fauci's dick lodged in his throat all the way to the sack.

Puck 12-22-2021 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 216903)
Thought Reich said Rock was effected by something else? Did I hear wrong. Jaff must have Fauci's dick lodged in his throat all the way to the sack.

I didnt see why he was out. Any word on Paris? It would be a good game to acclimate him back into the game flow. We will be HEAVY run this game I think

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Colts And Orioles 12-22-2021 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 216897)



You can still get it if vaccinated, but you're far less likely to really be affected by it - hospitalization, death, etc. Especially omicron which is more transmittable but less deadly when vaccinated.

The best way to stop spread is masking, like was said.



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This is my understanding of it, as well.

For example, Frank Reich tested positive in late July, but he was asymptomatic because he was fully vaccinated ...... it's highly likely that the vast majority of people who are still dying and/or needing hospitalization are people who are still un-vaccinated.

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HoosierinFL 12-22-2021 09:42 PM

There is no such thing as an immunization that works like some magic shield that prevents you from getting the illness. This is just as much true for the COVID vaccine as it is for flu, measles, polio, smallpox, varicella zoster, etc.

The pathogen can still enter your body, but the result is that your immune system has now been immunized with the appropriate signaling proteins to effectively destroy the pathogen, preventing more serious illness.

The reason smallpox was eradicated was both because of this way that the vaccine worked but also because we had a massive vaccination rollout. Once *everyone got immunized against it, what was left of the virus spreading around was quickly killed by immune systems, and it couldn’t spread to that *small number of people who legitimately could not take the shot for medical reasons.

We could have similar success with COVID but for some reason half the country has lost their damn minds about basic medical science and clearly didn’t deserve the passing grades they got in high school biology.

Lov2fish 12-22-2021 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 216904)
I didnt see why he was out. Any word on Paris? It would be a good game to acclimate him back into the game flow. We will be HEAVY run this game I think

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Doubt ya see Paris before Raiders game. Just heard Rock being out was not covid related.

Puck 12-22-2021 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 216916)
Doubt ya see Paris before Raiders game. Just heard Rock being out was not covid related.

It is covid

The Indianapolis Colts placed defensive end Kemoko Turay, cornerback Rock Ya-Sin and tight end Farrod Green on the reserve/COVID-19 list. Guard Quenton Nelson did not practice to an undisclosed illness.

Luck4Reich 12-22-2021 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 216892)
If you are vaccinated, you wont get it. If you put a mask over your piehole, you wont spread it.

Do unto others as they would do unto you

I personally know of 3 people a family member and two friends of family.. fully vaccinated... Died from covid... But keep believing vaccinated means you are 100% safe.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 12-22-2021 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 216904)
Any word on Paris?


After the game vs the Cheats, the beat reporters asked about Campbell.

Reich replied that Parris was "making good progress" and was nearing a return to practicing with the team but it doesn't sound like he will be ready for the game vs the Cardinals - which was Campbell's initial goal. I believe the original estimate was that he would be out 2 - 3 months with his injury + recovery....the Cardinals game would have been a little over 2 months.

ChaosTheory 12-22-2021 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 216892)
If you are vaccinated, you wont get it. If you put a mask over your piehole, you wont spread it.

Do unto others as they would do unto you

What are you talking about? Everyone is catching this. The CDC reported that 80% of Omicron cases were fully vaccinated people, 1/3 of them with boosters.

The nearly 2500 NFL players have a 95% vaccination rate. The nearly 4200 NFL personnel have a near 100% vaccination rate. They had, what, 100 players test positive last Monday/Tuesday?

As far as the mask, first off, almost nobody is using the one that does anything... Second, I don't see how it provides comfort to anyone when Carson Wentz goes on the field and breathes, spits, coughs, bleeds, cries, and whatever else all over everybody... But then he goes to the sidelines and puts a mask on so nobody gets sick.

The NFL doesn't actually give a shit about anybody having Covid. They're only worried about guys catching Covid. We've now seen it. If it gets bad enough, they'll just change the rules around testing and protocols. They'll just test fewer players less often. Less tests mean less positives.

Because they care.

Kray007 12-22-2021 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 216886)
So vaccinated don't get it? OR spread it?


Crap should have told my vaccinated friend who couldn't go to the game Saturday because she has it

Vaccinated people carry a much lower viral load, which means two things…they don’t get as sick, and they’re less likely to spread the disease.

Kray007 12-22-2021 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 216915)
There is no such thing as an immunization that works like some magic shield that prevents you from getting the illness. This is just as much true for the COVID vaccine as it is for flu, measles, polio, smallpox, varicella zoster, etc.

The pathogen can still enter your body, but the result is that your immune system has now been immunized with the appropriate signaling proteins to effectively destroy the pathogen, preventing more serious illness.

The reason smallpox was eradicated was both because of this way that the vaccine worked but also because we had a massive vaccination rollout. Once *everyone got immunized against it, what was left of the virus spreading around was quickly killed by immune systems, and it couldn’t spread to that *small number of people who legitimately could not take the shot for medical reasons.

We could have similar success with COVID but for some reason half the country has lost their damn minds about basic medical science and clearly didn’t deserve the passing grades they got in high school biology.

The biggest factor is that no other creature than humans can contract smallpox. Once it’s eliminated in humans, there’s no other animal reservoir in which it can survive.

Oldcolt 12-22-2021 11:37 PM

Smallpox requires direct contact with an infected person, it isn't spread via aerosolization like COVID. Makes a huge difference.

To vaccinate or not, the choice is absolutely clear. Who gives a shit what any of us think about this anyway?

Rock is a big loss (happy to write that) however. Dude is turning into a number one cornerback. Good for him and for the team to have way more patience than most of us here.

Kray007 12-22-2021 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 216922)
I personally know of 3 people a family member and two friends of family.. fully vaccinated... Died from covid... But keep believing vaccinated means you are 100% safe.

Yes, vaccinated people can contract covid. No question. But, when you’re vaccinated, your immune system kicks in and starts fighting the disease before it gets a chance to take hold and rage out of control.

Think of it as a wildfire on the prairie. You get a lightning strike and the grass starts to burn. Vaccination acts like a rainstorm that comes along shortly after the fire starts and puts out the fire. If you’re not vaccinated, the fire builds until it rages out of control.

Not everyone who catches it will die…it’s not like it’s a death sentence. But, for people who are old, overweight, have diabetes or any one of a dozen other underlying conditions, the consequences of catching covid are increasingly dire.

The irony is that Republicans are fighting vaccinations, masking, social distancing, and any number of common sense precautions intended to protect Americans from the disease. The result is that a Trump supporter is ten times more likely to die of Covid than a Biden voter. No one wants to say it, but the bottom line is that, in battleground states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, Arizona… Trump supporters are dying in large enough numbers to tip the next election to Biden.

omahacolt 12-22-2021 11:40 PM

of course turay gets covid


that dude misses games for everything.

Oldcolt 12-22-2021 11:40 PM

Weird since Trump has gotten all three shots

omahacolt 12-22-2021 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 216935)
Weird since Trump has gotten all three shots

of course he has. all the other republican politicians have as well. they just tell their followers not to do it because it is popular. because those people are stupid and say things like "lets go brandon" and think they are hilarious.

fox news has vaccine mandates but rails against it on air. this country really needs to wake up.

Kray007 12-22-2021 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 216925)
What are you talking about? Everyone is catching this. The CDC reported that 80% of Omicron cases were fully vaccinated people, 1/3 of them with boosters.

The nearly 2500 NFL players have a 95% vaccination rate. The nearly 4200 NFL personnel have a near 100% vaccination rate. They had, what, 100 players test positive last Monday/Tuesday?

As far as the mask, first off, almost nobody is using the one that does anything... Second, I don't see how it provides comfort to anyone when Carson Wentz goes on the field and breathes, spits, coughs, bleeds, cries, and whatever else all over everybody... But then he goes to the sidelines and puts a mask on so nobody gets sick.

The NFL doesn't actually give a shit about anybody having Covid. They're only worried about guys catching Covid. We've now seen it. If it gets bad enough, they'll just change the rules around testing and protocols. They'll just test fewer players less often. Less tests mean less positives.

Because they care.

The NFL has take note of the fact that when vaccinated players test positive, they’re not showing any symptoms. They’re also listening to experts who tell them that covid positive vaccinated players carry such a low viral load that they’re unlikely to be contagious

njcoltfan 12-23-2021 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 216937)
of course he has. all the other republican politicians have as well. they just tell their followers not to do it because it is popular. because those people are stupid and say things like "lets go brandon" and think they are hilarious.

fox news has vaccine mandates but rails against it on air. this country really needs to wake up.

Show me a quote where Trump, or any republican lawmaker has told anyone not to get the vaccine, you can't, but I vividly remember our Vice President saying on national television that if it was a Trump generated vaccine that she would be hesitant about getting it !! Lets go Brandon is hilarious !!

JAFF 12-23-2021 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 216945)
Show me a quote where Trump, or any republican lawmaker has told anyone not to get the vaccine, you can't, but I vividly remember our Vice President saying on national television that if it was a Trump generated vaccine that she would be hesitant about getting it !! Lets go Brandon is hilarious !!


Quote:

“I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump” on the reliability of a vaccine, Harris said. The California senator, however, added that she would trust a “credible” source who could vouch that a vaccine was safe for Americans to receive.
Apparently she’s like many Americans who doesn’t believe anything that comes out of his mouth

JAFF 12-23-2021 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kray007 (Post 216933)
Yes, vaccinated people can contract covid. No question. But, when you’re vaccinated, your immune system kicks in and starts fighting the disease before it gets a chance to take hold and rage out of control.

Think of it as a wildfire on the prairie. You get a lightning strike and the grass starts to burn. Vaccination acts like a rainstorm that comes along shortly after the fire starts and puts out the fire. If you’re not vaccinated, the fire builds until it rages out of control.

Not everyone who catches it will die…it’s not like it’s a death sentence. But, for people who are old, overweight, have diabetes or any one of a dozen other underlying conditions, the consequences of catching covid are increasingly dire.

The irony is that Republicans are fighting vaccinations, masking, social distancing, and any number of common sense precautions intended to protect Americans from the disease. The result is that a Trump supporter is ten times more likely to die of Covid than a Biden voter. No one wants to say it, but the bottom line is that, in battleground states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, Arizona… Trump supporters are dying in large enough numbers to tip the next election to Biden.

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid...ny-cause-study

Drewtone 12-23-2021 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 216888)
They MAY spread it so put a mask over your PIEHOLE

The Chron don't care about the vax or masks... luckily, a mild variant thus far.

Chromeburn 12-23-2021 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 216945)
Show me a quote where Trump, or any republican lawmaker has told anyone not to get the vaccine, you can't, but I vividly remember our Vice President saying on national television that if it was a Trump generated vaccine that she would be hesitant about getting it !! Lets go Brandon is hilarious !!

Well there was him downplaying it from the beginning. Politicizing it because some democrats were saying that it was something to take seriously. Dissolving the pandemic response team mainly because Obama started it. Making fun of masks and then having massive super spreader events with no emphasis on protection. Pushing dubious cures that he might have had a financial link to, or even outrageous notions like cleaning fluid in the blood. Denigrating experts and supporting quack doctors. Pushing responsibility onto states then undermining them by tweeting to “open up” or threatening to withdraw federal help. Presiding over half a million deaths.

But he did start operation warp speed. Even though a pharma company outside of it crafted the first vaccine.

As for the repubs against vaxes, what immediately comes to mind.
Wendy Rogers was just on video with a leader of the anti vax group saying she wants to give a shout out to the anti mask club.

Paul Gosar was just on video with the same guy saying they were doing good work with the anti vax movement and to keep it up.

Boebert in a speech not to long ago said she wasn’t getting the “Fauci ouchie”

All three are vaxed.

ChaosTheory 12-23-2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kray007 (Post 216938)
The NFL has take note of the fact that when vaccinated players test positive, they’re not showing any symptoms. They’re also listening to experts who tell them that covid positive vaccinated players carry such a low viral load that they’re unlikely to be contagious

Maybe you've read something different. CDC has reported at least since June/July that viral loads among vaxxed and unvaxxed are similar. Same with NEJM in December. And now Omicron appears to be the most transmissible of all variants we've seen. Vaxxed or unvaxxed, symptomatic or asymptomatic.

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The point is that their (mostly vaccinated) players started testing positive in droves. Who's not contagious? More positive tests in one week than all season combined. I read 200 players since Dec 13. That's almost 10% of players. So now they aren't testing them weekly anymore.

And all that shit about not moving games this year, forfeiting, not getting paid... Well we just had three extra games Monday and Tuesday. So what does that off-season talk sound like now? Concern or coercion?

It's not just the NFL. Everyone is catching this and it's not going away.

Colts And Orioles 12-23-2021 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 216969)



Well, there was him downplaying it from the beginning.



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8yOv4PwttM

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Drewtone 12-23-2021 01:08 PM

Has Greg Doyle taken over this thread???? Jeezus guys, let's talk football!

Oldcolt 12-23-2021 02:30 PM

Fingers crossed but I have been pleasantly surprised by the small number of Colts (so far) infected. This Omicron is so infectious that it makes trying to predict who will win almost impossible. The teams that do the best at isolation and following guidelines are going to have an advantage going forward. Sucks because it its about as non football as it gets yet it could have a huge impact.

If Wentz gets thru the season/playoffs non vaccinated and doesn't miss any time then to me he has walked the walk after he talked about not needing the vaccine. If he continues to make it he was right and my thinking he was a selfish dude was wrong. I will be happy to be wrong.

Hoopsdoc 12-23-2021 05:35 PM

If Wentz or Leonard catch it, they will miss the game, assuming they’re still unvaxxed. Which would leave us skuh-rewed.


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