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ChoppedWood 10-31-2021 04:43 PM

Frank reich is horrible
 
That's it, that's the entire message.

Thanks

nate505 10-31-2021 08:58 PM

Agreed. Not running the ball in OT, when clock really isn't an issue, and when the team was so thin at receiving, and when Wentz wasn't amazing today...just stunningly inept.

Hoopsdoc 10-31-2021 09:17 PM

Frank is the smartest guy in the room, you see.

apballin 10-31-2021 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 209679)
Frank is the smartest guy in the room, you see.

He is trying his best to make his boy Wentz the hero

ChoppedWood 10-31-2021 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 209684)
He is trying his best to make his boy Wentz the hero

Sadly there is probably a lot of truth to this. Which is an indictment and should result in a pink slip.

omahacolt 10-31-2021 10:29 PM

i get the criticism of reich but i don't understand how much he is getting.

the defense allows 8 yard passes at will. basically unchallenged. all day long.

reich doesn't rush the passer.

reich doesn't make wentz throw into triple coverage when he could check down for 20 yards in ot

rm1369 10-31-2021 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 209693)
reich doesn't rush the passer.

Neither do any of Ballard’s DEs

Luck4Reich 10-31-2021 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 209679)
Frank is the smartest guy in the room, you see.

Must be in the room alone quite a lot.

apballin 11-01-2021 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 209693)
i get the criticism of reich but i don't understand how much he is getting.

the defense allows 8 yard passes at will. basically unchallenged. all day long.

reich doesn't rush the passer.

reich doesn't make wentz throw into triple coverage when he could check down for 20 yards in ot

That’s his job as the coach know a player’s limitations and eliminate the possibility of stupidity… he routinely puts the ball in Carson’s hands unnecessarily when clearly our best player is Taylor and our strength was supposed to be offensive line… up 14-0 RTDB

Hoopsdoc 11-01-2021 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 209693)
i get the criticism of reich but i don't understand how much he is getting.

the defense allows 8 yard passes at will. basically unchallenged. all day long.

reich doesn't rush the passer.

reich doesn't make wentz throw into triple coverage when he could check down for 20 yards in ot

Reich either called 51 pass plays or allowed Wentz to do so. Reich regularly takes his best player off the field. Reich regularly substitutes offensive linemen when you said yourself nobody does that. Reich calls really bad plays in really bad spots like the screen pass from the endzone. He’s way to conservative in spots and way to aggressive in others.

I don’t understand why you don’t understand the criticism Reich is getting. He richly deserves it.

I don’t understand why you want to dump most of the blame on Ballard when they keep losing totally winnable games because of obviously bad decision making on Reichs part.

albany ed 11-01-2021 05:46 AM

My guess is Reich staked it all on the success of Wentz. If Wentz does not prove to be worth all they gave/give up to get him, Reich may get the axe.

ChoppedWood 11-01-2021 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 209693)
i get the criticism of reich but i don't understand how much he is getting.

the defense allows 8 yard passes at will. basically unchallenged. all day long.

reich doesn't rush the passer.

reich doesn't make wentz throw into triple coverage when he could check down for 20 yards in ot

Ebersuck works for Reich. My expectation, and given how ass this team is it could be wrong, but my expectation is these two work together quite a bit and discuss strategy and situational specific plans. My expectation is they game plan together. As such, the 8 yard passes unchallenged, is because Frank thinks that is good strategy and tells Ebersuck to keep sucking!

Discflinger 11-01-2021 06:18 AM

Pitchforks and bonfires! I still believe we can finish 10-7. Blackmon going down hurts and if Willis is out for awhile retract my statement, but I think this team is different than most and I love them for it.

rm1369 11-01-2021 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 209717)
Ebersuck works for Reich. My expectation, and given how ass this team is it could be wrong, but my expectation is these two work together quite a bit and discuss strategy and situational specific plans. My expectation is they game plan together. As such, the 8 yard passes unchallenged, is because Frank thinks that is good strategy and tells Ebersuck to keep sucking!

Eberflus was a Ballard signing. He was on staff as part of the McDaniels debacle. They are also running a defense with nearly zero effective edge rush. It’s going to have holes. I’m not suggesting they are doing great by any means, I’m just pointing out again that Reich is the scapegoat for an issue that is squarely on Ballard. His coaching hire he hasn’t given the most important element to, yet it’s all Reich’s fault. Ballard is made of Teflon in Colts world.

nate505 11-01-2021 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 209732)
Eberflus was a Ballard signing. He was on staff as part of the McDaniels debacle. They are also running a defense with nearly zero effective edge rush. It’s going to have holes. I’m not suggesting they are doing great by any means, I’m just pointing out again that Reich is the scapegoat for an issue that is squarely on Ballard. His coaching hire he hasn’t given the most important element to, yet it’s all Reich’s fault. Ballard is made of Teflon in Colts world.

Yup, that's what happens when you decide to run pass play after pass play after pass play with a depleted WR corp, instead of using one of the best RBs in the NFL that was having an effective day.

Oldcolt 11-01-2021 10:47 AM

Discflinger you actually love this team? I find this group to be the least likable Colt team I have ever rooted for. Prima donas that think they are all that without ever winning shit. Coach that keeps saying what a good team he has here. Participation trophies galore at the end of the season with smiles all around because they 'won'. Think Lombardi would be saying lovely things about his QB who threw a pass a fourth grader wouldn't try? Parcels liked to say 'you are what your record says you are'. He was right. This is a mediocre team through and through. And very unlikable.

Hoopsdoc 11-01-2021 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 209739)
Yup, that's what happens when you decide to run pass play after pass play after pass play with a depleted WR corp, instead of using one of the best RBs in the NFL that was having an effective day.

It’s baffling to me that people want to blame Ballard equally for Reichs buffoonery.

To be clear, I’m not absolving Ballard by any means. This team has holes.

I’d put the blame for the season so far at 75 percent Reich, 25 percent Ballard.

Hoopsdoc 11-01-2021 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 209693)
i get the criticism of reich but i don't understand how much he is getting.

the defense allows 8 yard passes at will. basically unchallenged. all day long.

reich doesn't rush the passer.

reich doesn't make wentz throw into triple coverage when he could check down for 20 yards in ot

The defense sacked Tannehill 3 times and intercepted him twice. They held Henry under 70 yards rushing.

The defense wasn’t the problem yesterday.

Frank Reich lost that game with his stupidity.

Period.

Chromeburn 11-01-2021 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 209743)
It’s baffling to me that people want to blame Ballard equally for Reichs buffoonery.

To be clear, I’m not absolving Ballard by any means. This team has holes.

I’d put the blame for the season so far at 75 percent Reich, 25 percent Ballard.

Gameday decisions and bad play calls are on Reich. A weirdly constructed team and lack of weapons is on Ballard. Throwing into triple coverage and not using your check downs because is on Wentz.

Hoopsdoc 11-01-2021 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 209749)
Gameday decisions and bad play calls are on Reich. A weirdly constructed team and lack of weapons is on Ballard. Throwing into triple coverage and not using your check downs because is on Wentz.

This team doesn’t really lack weapons on offense, aside from those missing from injury. Pittman is becoming a clear number 1 receiver if he’s not already there. Everyone knows how good Taylor can be, except for Reich, apparently. MAC is a good player who is also underutilized.

As for Wentz, he is ONLY here because of Reich. A failure by Wentz is directly attributable to Reich.

ChoppedWood 11-01-2021 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 209732)
Eberflus was a Ballard signing. He was on staff as part of the McDaniels debacle. They are also running a defense with nearly zero effective edge rush. It’s going to have holes. I’m not suggesting they are doing great by any means, I’m just pointing out again that Reich is the scapegoat for an issue that is squarely on Ballard. His coaching hire he hasn’t given the most important element to, yet it’s all Reich’s fault. Ballard is made of Teflon in Colts world.

Very fair points. And if Ebersuck is doing Ebersuck things because Ballard hired him and Frank is just letting him do Ebersuck things, then that again, is on Reich for not stopping him.

Ballard has swung and missed badly, DE is a disgrace. Acknowledged. Not one of the swing and miss DE's is responsible for JT getting 16 damn carries in the game. The only one responsible for that, is Reich. We have lots of problems, and paramount amongst them, is our coach who helps other teams to exploit our weaknesses.

Please re-watch the end zone INT. Reed, gets trampled, I mean demolished. I don't even blame Wentz on that INT. He gets sacked- safety we punt, game over. He throws the ball at the feet of the OL, safety we punt, game over. Yeah there is a small window where he could have thrown it at the feet of MAC and he should have.

However the blame, the blame is on the idiot OC who also happens to be the HC, who calls that type of insane play from the two allowing the LG to get bitch-made and costing us a TD.

All the things in this post- are on the shoulders of no one other than Frank Reich and that is why he collects the blame, because he is a terrible HC!

rm1369 11-01-2021 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 209743)
It’s baffling to me that people want to blame Ballard equally for Reichs buffoonery.

To be clear, I’m not absolving Ballard by any means. This team has holes.

I’d put the blame for the season so far at 75 percent Reich, 25 percent Ballard.

I’m not blaming Ballard for Reich’s mistakes, but it’s fucking comical watching the shit that is being blamed on Reich. Absolutely I question some of his play calling. Of course I can’t remember a coach that I haven’t. But shit like the rookie Gransen has been used as a Reich pick to show how stupid Reich is. And Eberflus sucks because that’s what Reich wants. It’s fucking ridiculous. While for the last 4-5 years anyone who disagreed with a single thing Ballard did has been labeled a hater or chicken little. This is all squarely Ballard’s regime. Everything on the field has been molded using his method. And after 5 years they still can’t beat playoff teams. Pick and choose who you want to blame. It’s 75% Reich? Cool. Guess who hired him? And we are damn lucky we didn’t get his first pick. Eberflus sucks? Agreed. Guess who hired him?

At this point I hope you guys get your wish and Reich is fired. Let’s see the coach that can win consistently with a QB you can’t trust, no pass rush, and no CBs.

For the record - I’d say its 70-30 Ballard / Reich to blame. Easier to blame the coach though because you can tell yourself the team is almost there - just being held back by Reich’s stupidity. I see a team with a QB you can’t trust, no pass rush, only 1 of 3 CBs worth a shit, and question marks at LT going forward. That’s, IMO 4 of the most important positions in modern Football.

rm1369 11-01-2021 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 209757)
As for Wentz, he is ONLY here because of Reich. A failure by Wentz is directly attributable to Reich.

So let me understand - Reich is GM when it’s a player he likes that fails. And Reich should be held accountable for his mistakes as a GM. However, the actual GM isn’t responsible for the coach he brought in who apparently is doing double duty sabotaging the team. Am I getting that right?

Do you think the team would be better under McDaniels - Ballard’s first choice?

ChoppedWood 11-01-2021 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 209770)
So let me understand - Reich is GM when it’s a player he likes that fails. And Reich should be held accountable for his mistakes as a GM. However, the actual GM isn’t responsible for the coach he brought who apparently is doing double duty sabotaging the team. Am I getting that right?

Do you think the team would be better under McDaniels - Ballard’s first choice?

Sadly, yes. I have to believe that despite being a jerk-off, McDaniels would assess the team and say "hmmm that Taylor kid, he is pretty damn good, maybe we should get the ball in his hands a lot".

Reich probably looks at it and says "hmmmm, that Taylor kid, he is pretty good, so they are going to stop him, so I am going to use other guys and beat them, I am going to use Dulin, he isn't very good, but they won't expect me to try to use him because he sucks so bad". Or, "hey we are on the two, second and goal, we can't give it to that stud RB, they will just stop him, so I will use this rookie TE that hasn't proven to be able to do jack shit, I'll use him on a jet sweep, man I am good at this shit".

So yes, yes I would speculate we would be a better team with McSnake. But I also suspect we would be better with a middle school part time HC than we are with Reich.

Colts And Orioles 11-01-2021 01:10 PM

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It's obviously not a very popular stance right now, but I'm going to say that I support Reich in the long run, despite several heartbreaking losses and questionable decisions this season.

In fact, I like Reich, Ballard, and Wentz ...... this season may or may not be salvageable, but 2022 and beyond is looking good to me.

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Hoopsdoc 11-01-2021 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 209765)
I’m not blaming Ballard for Reich’s mistakes, but it’s fucking comical watching the shit that is being blamed on Reich. Absolutely I question some of his play calling. Of course I can’t remember a coach that I haven’t. But shit like the rookie Gransen has been used as a Reich pick to show how stupid Reich is. And Eberflus sucks because that’s what Reich wants. It’s fucking ridiculous. While for the last 4-5 years anyone who disagreed with a single thing Ballard did has been labeled a hater or chicken little. This is all squarely Ballard’s regime. Everything on the field has been molded using his method. And after 5 years they still can’t beat playoff teams. Pick and choose who you want to blame. It’s 75% Reich? Cool. Guess who hired him? And we are damn lucky we didn’t get his first pick. Eberflus sucks? Agreed. Guess who hired him?

At this point I hope you guys get your wish and Reich is fired. Let’s see the coach that can win consistently with a QB you can’t trust, no pass rush, and no CBs.

For the record - I’d say its 70-30 Ballard / Reich to blame. Easier to blame the coach though because you can tell yourself the team is almost there - just being held back by Reich’s stupidity. I see a team with a QB you can’t trust, no pass rush, only 1 of 3 CBs worth a shit, and question marks at LT going forward. That’s, IMO 4 of the most important positions in modern Football.

I’ll have more time to respond later but suffice it to say, we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

This team is plenty talented enough to win these games. And they’re coming close. They’re being held back by coaching.

Colts And Orioles 11-01-2021 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 209773)
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It's obviously not a very popular stance right now, but I'm going to say that I support Reich in the long run, despite several heartbreaking losses and questionable decisions this season.

In fact, I like Reich, Ballard, and Wentz ...... this season may or may not be salvageable, but 2022 and beyond is looking good to me.

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And I'm not exonerating Reich for yesterday's play-calling and/or other questionable decisions that he has made this season ...... I'm specifically staking my claim that in the long run, he will wind up surprising some of his detractors.

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Kray007 11-01-2021 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 209713)
Reich either called 51 pass plays or allowed Wentz to do so. Reich regularly takes his best player off the field. Reich regularly substitutes offensive linemen when you said yourself nobody does that. Reich calls really bad plays in really bad spots like the screen pass from the endzone. He’s way to conservative in spots and way to aggressive in others.

I don’t understand why you don’t understand the criticism Reich is getting. He richly deserves it.

I don’t understand why you want to dump most of the blame on Ballard when they keep losing totally winnable games because of obviously bad decision making on Reichs part.

Yesterday, Glowinski was in on only 4 plays.

Hoopsdoc 11-01-2021 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 209770)
So let me understand - Reich is GM when it’s a player he likes that fails. And Reich should be held accountable for his mistakes as a GM. However, the actual GM isn’t responsible for the coach he brought in who apparently is doing double duty sabotaging the team. Am I getting that right?

Do you think the team would be better under McDaniels - Ballard’s first choice?

It’s not that Reich likes Wentz, per se. It’s that Reich was the one who insisted on acquiring him and had to talk Ballard into it. Ballard agreed because he trusted Reichs judgement.

This was discussed recently on the one percent better podcast, based on conversations Holder and Keefer had with Ballard.

njcoltfan 11-01-2021 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 209770)
So let me understand - Reich is GM when it’s a player he likes that fails. And Reich should be held accountable for his mistakes as a GM. However, the actual GM isn’t responsible for the coach he brought in who apparently is doing double duty sabotaging the team. Am I getting that right?

Do you think the team would be better under McDaniels - Ballard’s first choice?

Absolutely.

rm1369 11-01-2021 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 209791)
It’s not that Reich likes Wentz, per se. It’s that Reich was the one who insisted on acquiring him and had to talk Ballard into it. Ballard agreed because he trusted Reichs judgement.

This was discussed recently on the one percent better podcast, based on conversations Holder and Keefer had with Ballard.

I doubt that is an accurate representation- Ballard being talked into a move he didn’t like. But let’s say it is. How do you come away from that absolving the GM of responsibility and putting it on the coach. Whose job is player acquisition? The GMs. Whose job was it to hire the coach that supposedly talked him into something he didn’t want to do? The GM. So how the hell is it the coaches fault and not the GMs? It was his decision. And you are claiming he was talked into it by a guy that he hired. Either way that’s a GM problem. What the hell am I missing?

For the record I would expect it was a collaborative effort with the final decision being Ballard’s. At least that’s the way it should have been. If not then you are saying they are more dysfunctional that I believe.

Hoopsdoc 11-01-2021 03:08 PM

Food for thought-as much as everyone loves to hate on Eberflus, the Colts defense is actually better than their offense.

12th in total defense.
17th in total offense.

The Colts biggest problem right now is their “offensive guru” head coach.

Colts And Orioles 11-01-2021 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 209805)



Food for thought ...... as much as everyone loves to hate on Eberflus, the Colts' defense is actually better than their offense.


12th in total defense.

17th in total offense.


The Colts' biggest problem right now is their “offensive guru” head coach.



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The defense had 2 huge stops late in yesterday's game ......


1) ) Late in the 4th quarter while the game was tied, they forced the Titans to punt ...... if they hadn't forced that punt, there is a good chance that the Titans would have run most or all of the clock down while kicking what probably would have been the game-winning field goal in regulation.

2) ) In overtime, after the offense failed to score at least a field goal after winning the coin toss, they forced the Titans to punt (after which the offense failed again.)


Additionally, there were 2 different occasions in which the Colts' defense forced 4th downs, both times in which the Titans went for it and got it ...... credit the Titans' offense for getting both of those 1st downs, but there were plenty of occasions in which the defense either forced a turnover or put the Titans in 4th-down situations. The Titans were 7-for-16 on 3rd downs, turned the ball over early in the game which the Colts converted into a touchdown, and punted the ball 4 times (including once in overtime.)

They also caught a bad break when Tyquan Lewis twisted his knee and coughed up the ball which he had just intercepted.


Overall, I believe that the defense did at least a reasonably good job yesterday.

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Hoopsdoc 11-01-2021 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 209808)
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The defense had 2 huge stops late in yesterday's game ......


1) ) Late in the 4th quarter while the game was tied, they forced the Titans to punt ...... if they hadn't forced that punt, there is a good chance that the Titans would have run most or all of the clock down while kicking what probably would have been the game-winning field goal in regulation.

2) ) In overtime, after the offense failed to score at least a field goal after winning the coin toss, they forced the Titans to punt (after which the offense failed again.)


Additionally, there were 2 different occasions in which the Colts' defense forced 4th downs, both times in which the Titans went for it and got it ...... credit the Titans' offense for getting both of those 1st downs, but there were plenty of occasions in which the defense either forced a turnover or put the Titans in 4th-down situations. The Titans were 7-for-16 on 3rd downs, turned the ball over early in the game which the Colts converted into a touchdown, and punted the ball 4 times (including once in overtime.)

They also caught a bad break when Tyquan Lewis twisted his knee and coughed up the ball which he had just intercepted.


Overall, I believe that the defense did at least a reasonably good job yesterday.

o

The defense played Tennessee as well as anyone has played them all year, other than maybe Arizona. Aside from letting Brown run free to often, they played a damn good game.

Apparently it was Ballards fault they elected to throw the ball 51(!!!) times and give it to their stud running back 16 times.

rm1369 11-01-2021 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 209815)
Apparently it was Ballards fault they elected to throw the ball 51(!!!) times and give it to their stud running back 16 times.

I have no problems with valid criticisms of Reich. It’s him taking the blame for every single bad thing that I have an issue with. From his supposed draft picks, to Eberflus, to his job as GM. And of course that they’d be a better team with McDaniels. But hey - I hope you guys get your wish. I want to see how long until Ballard is responsible for anything considering he hired, signed, traded for, or drafted every damn person being discussed.

Chromeburn 11-01-2021 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 209818)
I have no problems with valid criticisms of Reich. It’s him taking the blame for every single bad thing that I have an issue with. From his supposed draft picks, to Eberflus, to his job as GM. And of course that they’d be a better team with McDaniels. But hey - I hope you guys get your wish. I want to see how long until Ballard is responsible for anything considering he hired, signed, traded for, or drafted every damn person being discussed.

I still think we dodged a bullet in McDaniels. He has the charisma of a rock. I was in Denver when he was there, players hated him. They didn’t trust anything he said. He dismantled that team.

Colts And Orioles 11-01-2021 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 209815)



The defense played Tennessee as well as anyone has played them all year, other than maybe Arizona. Aside from letting Brown run free too often, they played a damn good game.

Apparently it was Ballards fault that they elected to throw the ball 51 (!!!) times, and give it to their stud running back 16 times.




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The Jets' defense did a pretty good job on the Titans, also. Even though the Titans had much more total yardage and time of possession than the Jets had in that game, the Jets had some timely stops ...... the Titans were 5-of-19 on 3rd down, and 2-of-3 on 4th down (7-of-22 combined.)

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rm1369 11-01-2021 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 209821)
I still think we dodged a bullet in McDaniels. He has the charisma of a rock. I was in Denver when he was there, players hated him. They didn’t trust anything he said. He dismantled that team.

Yeah I have no idea how multiple people on here think he’s a better option than Reich. His time in Denver was a disaster and the whole deal here shows he hadn’t changed.

Spike 11-01-2021 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 209821)
I still think we dodged a bullet in McDaniels. He has the charisma of a rock. I was in Denver when he was there, players hated him. They didn’t trust anything he said. He dismantled that team.

100% agree. Fuck McDouche.

Hoopsdoc 11-01-2021 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 209818)
I have no problems with valid criticisms of Reich. It’s him taking the blame for every single bad thing that I have an issue with. From his supposed draft picks, to Eberflus, to his job as GM. And of course that they’d be a better team with McDaniels. But hey - I hope you guys get your wish. I want to see how long until Ballard is responsible for anything considering he hired, signed, traded for, or drafted every damn person being discussed.

I never said or implied that McDaniels would be a better coach and I never said or implied that I want Reich fired. You’re doing a fine job countering arguments that I’m not making.

I think Reich is capable of being a really good coach, he’s shown that the past 3 years. I think he’ll eventually get this figured out.

But if you don’t think he’s been a major problem this season, you’re in denial.


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