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Puck 02-12-2021 07:04 PM

What to do with #21?
 
What do you think the Colts should do with pick 21 If they sign Carson Wentz

rcubed 02-12-2021 07:27 PM

I said BPA but with an emphasis on BPA OT or DE

Maniac 02-12-2021 07:44 PM

If they can keep their first round pick, they'll use it on the o-line IMO

Brylok 02-12-2021 07:57 PM

Left tackle. Can't have Wentz even more broken than he already is.

njcoltfan 02-13-2021 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 186890)
What do you think the Colts should do with pick 21 If they sign Carson Wentz

Im ignoring the " if they sign Carson Wentz ", I hope they find a way to package this years first round pick with whatever it takes, to move up in this years draft to get their QB of the future. I don't want to be discussing this topic again next year !!

apballin 02-13-2021 09:29 AM

Something tells me qb and pass rush will be addressed thru free agency and this team is missing a play making TE

Puck 02-13-2021 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 186913)
Something tells me qb and pass rush will be addressed thru free agency and this team is missing a play making TE

I think the TE may be also addressed if FA

Puck 02-13-2021 11:21 AM

My take on this draft is that if there was ever a yr to lean hard on BPA it is this one. There will be a lot of potential blue chippers that will fall to 21. I could even see him trade back a few spots to pick up an extra 3rd or 4th

Just depends on who is there.

Dam8610 02-13-2021 11:31 AM

I like the idea of trading the 21st overall pick for Orlando Brown Jr. provided the QB position is addressed by trading lesser picks for Wentz or Darnold. You won't get a better LT at 21 and Brown gives the Colts a young dominant OL for a very long time. That would then leave one area of focus for Free Agency: pass rush, and the market is incredibly deep there this year.

Chromeburn 02-13-2021 12:07 PM

I said BPA but I think BPA will likely be oline.

rcubed 02-13-2021 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 186917)
I like the idea of trading the 21st overall pick for Orlando Brown Jr. provided the QB position is addressed by trading lesser picks for Wentz or Darnold. You won't get a better LT at 21 and Brown gives the Colts a young dominant OL for a very long time. That would then leave one area of focus for Free Agency: pass rush, and the market is incredibly deep there this year.


But a a huge cost difference compared to a drafted LT.


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apballin 02-13-2021 03:40 PM

Still think Nelson or Smith get moved to LT and the need for Oline isn’t as dire as we suspect

Dam8610 02-13-2021 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 186923)
But a a huge cost difference compared to a drafted LT.


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For a team with among the most cap space in the league. Plus the cap is projected to bounceback to where it would've been next year.

JAFF 02-13-2021 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 186932)
Still think Nelson or Smith get moved to LT and the need for Oline isn’t as dire as we suspect

Move Smith to LT and draft 2 linemen who can play ot or og

jasperhobbs 02-13-2021 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 186937)
Move Smith to LT and draft 2 linemen who can play ot or og

I wonder if smith has quick enough feet to play left tackle. Most left tackles are very nifty and light on their feet.

Chromeburn 02-13-2021 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 186938)
I wonder if smith has quick enough feet to play left tackle. Most left tackles are very nifty and light on their feet.

He had a higher athletic grade than Nelson, who they are also considering.

JAFF 02-13-2021 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 186938)
I wonder if smith has quick enough feet to play left tackle. Most left tackles are very nifty and light on their feet.

He didnt give up a sack last year and opposing D’s have tough DEs off the right side. Go find a RT in the second round or FA

JAFF 02-13-2021 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 186919)
I said BPA but I think BPA will likely be oline.

And? A RT and move Smith to LT.

omahacolt 02-15-2021 10:16 PM

Personal preference is a pass rusher. Although I won’t be mad at LT. Anything else is dumb

That is assuming we don’t trade for a qb

JAFF 02-15-2021 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 186936)
For a team with among the most cap space in the league. Plus the cap is projected to bounceback to where it would've been next year.

I wouldnt make any rash predictions about post covid attendance or cap space.

Colts And Orioles 02-18-2021 06:04 PM

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On several occasions, I have said that one of my football mentors when I was a kid taught me that anytime you start a football team at the professional level, you always start with the offensive line ...... not the quarterback, not the special teams, not the running backs, and not the defensive secondary. The reason being is that without at least a decent offensive line, you have nothing. Perhaps if you have a quarterback who can scramble like a madman (Fran Tarkenton, Michael Vick, Randall Cunningham, Roger Staubach) you can compensate for a lousy offensive line, but only to a certain extent.

Well, the Colts already appear to have an (at least) above average offensive line. In a super-small sample size in the playoff game against the Bills, they did an excellent job even without the newly retired Anthony Castonzo, who missed the game after having had ankle surgery. And now, we appear to have an (at least) very sufficient quarterback in Carson Wentz ...... so, does Ballard make what already seems to be a strong aspect of the team even stronger, and draft an offensive lineman with the team's 1st-round pick at # 21 ??? Or does he have something else in mind, feeling that the team has other, more pressing needs in some other area ??? The fact that the Colts traded their 3rd-round draft pick in 2021 could mean that they really need make those first 2 draft picks count. Stay tuned, it should be extremely interesting.

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JAFF 02-18-2021 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 186938)
I wonder if smith has quick enough feet to play left tackle. Most left tackles are very nifty and light on their feet.

He didnt give up a sack last year, and the differences between tackles is getting smaller

JAFF 02-18-2021 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 187022)
Personal preference is a pass rusher. Although I won’t be mad at LT. Anything else is dumb

That is assuming we don’t trade for a qb

The D needs to help Bruckner get pressure on the Qb

Dam8610 02-18-2021 10:39 PM

After today's trade, trading for Orlando Brown Jr. makes even more sense IMO. Get the OL locked up, then use free agency to shore up the pass rush and go exclusively BPA in the draft.

Oldcolt 02-19-2021 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 187286)
After today's trade, trading for Orlando Brown Jr. makes even more sense IMO. Get the OL locked up, then use free agency to shore up the pass rush and go exclusively BPA in the draft.

Hope not. Don’t want to give up draft choices and sign him to a long term deal. To costly. Don’t think Ballard will trade any more draft picks and I don’t want him to.

Dam8610 02-19-2021 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 187290)
Hope not. Don’t want to give up draft choices and sign him to a long term deal. To costly. Don’t think Ballard will trade any more draft picks and I don’t want him to.

You give up the 21st pick, get Brown, sign him to an extension, and you're still likely looking at ~$45 million of cap room for the Colts to play with along with the youngest, best OL in the NFL. Address the pass rush in free agency and look for more skill players in the draft, and you're looking at a team that can contend for a championship if Reich can fix Wentz.


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