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njcoltfan 10-21-2020 10:42 AM

Paris Campbell
 
Is he out for the year ??

rcubed 10-21-2020 10:54 AM

Thought i read that he may be back after the bye. But not sure on that.


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AlwaysSunnyinIndy 10-21-2020 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 173129)
Thought i read that he may be back after the bye. But not sure on that.


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I think you are confusing Michael Pittman's injury status with Parris Campbell. MPJ is on track to return after the bye.

I don't believe the Colts ever assigned a time table for Parris Campbell's return. Most comments indicated that he was out "indefinitely" and that there was a chance for him to return this season.

njcoltfan 10-21-2020 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 173129)
Thought i read that he may be back after the bye. But not sure on that.


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I know he’s on IR, I don’t know how that effects his returning

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 10-21-2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 173132)
I know he’s on IR, I don’t know how that effects his returning


The NFL modified the IR rules for this season - the main consequence of being placed on IR this year is that the player will need to be out for 3 weeks minimum.

There is no limit to the number of players that teams can place on IR or the number of players that can be brought back from IR.

Hoopsdoc 10-22-2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 173131)
I think you are confusing Michael Pittman's injury status with Parris Campbell. MPJ is on track to return after the bye.

I don't believe the Colts ever assigned a time table for Parris Campbell's return. Most comments indicated that he was out "indefinitely" and that there was a chance for him to return this season.

This is what I remember as well. “A chance to return this year”, implying a late season return if at all.

Not hearing anything probably means he isn’t close.

albany ed 10-22-2020 12:34 PM

He is having or will soon be having surgery, so I doubt he'll be back this year.

Lawrence Owen 10-22-2020 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 173230)
He is having or will soon be having surgery, so I doubt he'll be back this year.

A PCL surgery is pretty simple, and a lot less invasive than an ACL.

Time table for recovery is 2-6 weeks.
(This was my uncle's response when I asked him. He is a Military surgeon.)

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 10-22-2020 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 173230)
He is having or will soon be having surgery, so I doubt he'll be back this year.


Parris had surgery on Sept 30th - both he and the Colts indicated that the procedure went well. At that time, the Colts again stated that they had hope that he would return this season without giving any guidance on timing.

Lawrence Owen 10-22-2020 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 173234)
Parris had surgery on Sept 30th - both he and the Colts indicated that the procedure went well. At that time, the Colts again stated that they had hope that he would return this season without giving any guidance on timing.

I spoke with Jake Arthur, and Andrew Walker, and they said the the coaching staff has deliberately been quiet over Paris the past few weeks, and plan on giving an update on him, Pittman, and Turay, sometime next week.

JAFF 10-25-2020 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawrence Owen (Post 173233)
A PCL surgery is pretty simple, and a lot less invasive than an ACL.

Time table for recovery is 2-6 weeks.
(This was my uncle's response when I asked him. He is a Military surgeon.)

Military? If they cant fix it with a band aid they cut it off. 😱

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 12-02-2020 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 173131)
I don't believe the Colts ever assigned a time table for Parris Campbell's return. Most comments indicated that he was out "indefinitely" and that there was a chance for him to return this season.


The Colts are now thinking that WR Parris Campbell's season is over - that it would take a "minor miracle" for him to return this season.


https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1334160801553330176

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The Colts at this point believe WR Parris Campbell is done for the year, and would need "a minor miracle" to return, per source. Campbell had an impressive Week 1 before suffering a MCL injury on the second offensive snap of the second game of the season.

Chromeburn 12-02-2020 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 177601)
The Colts are now thinking that WR Parris Campbell's season is over - that it would take a "minor miracle" for him to return this season.


https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1334160801553330176

Two years. Still waiting to see what he can do.

njcoltfan 12-02-2020 02:24 PM

When is he considered a bust ?

Spike 12-02-2020 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 177619)
When is he considered a bust ?

I'm not ready to give up on him yet. He's a hell of a talent.

jasperhobbs 12-02-2020 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 177642)
I'm not ready to give up on him yet. He's a hell of a talent.

Wish they would have taken Metcalf or mclaurin.

Butter 12-02-2020 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 177656)
Wish they would have taken Metcalf or mclaurin.

Hindsight is 20/20

Dam8610 12-03-2020 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 177656)
Wish they would have taken Metcalf or mclaurin.

But Metcalf's 3 cone was horrible! Who could've possibly predicted he'd be a quality NFL WR?

JAFF 12-03-2020 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 177681)
But Metcalf's 3 cone was horrible! Who could've possibly predicted he'd be a quality NFL WR?

Have you ever seen the cone drill in a game? Anyone see him play in college? Bet he didnt suck?

Dam8610 12-03-2020 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 177689)
Have you ever seen the cone drill in a game? Anyone see him play in college? Bet he didnt suck?

I see you missed the sarcasm and were unaware that I said Metcalf was the only WR I wanted in round 1 that year.

Chromeburn 12-03-2020 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 177619)
When is he considered a bust ?

When we trade him to the Jets.

Brylok 12-03-2020 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 177619)
When is he considered a bust ?

Some say the most important ability is availability, and he just doesn't have it. He's still under contract through 2022 (I think), but he's going to have to play next year or he might just wash out of the NFL. Hopefully he'll turn it around but I'm not optimistic.

JAFF 12-03-2020 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 177708)
I see you missed the sarcasm and were unaware that I said Metcalf was the only WR I wanted in round 1 that year.

No one ever knows what you are talking about

rcubed 12-04-2020 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 177768)
No one ever knows what you are talking about


Late candidate for post of the year!


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YDFL Commish 12-04-2020 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 177681)
But Metcalf's 3 cone was horrible! Who could've possibly predicted he'd be a quality NFL WR?

So 3-cone is unimportant but 40 yd time is ultra important to you?

IMO, all measurables have a certain significance. A good organization is going to ask themselves what kind of routes am I going to ask this guy to run, is he gonna play the slot or outside and fit his measurables into that evaluation.

Dam8610 12-04-2020 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 177859)
So 3-cone is unimportant but 40 yd time is ultra important to you?

IMO, all measurables have a certain significance. A good organization is going to ask themselves what kind of routes am I going to ask this guy to run, is he gonna play the slot or outside and fit his measurables into that evaluation.

There are ranges (including acceptable and unacceptable) for all drills and player types where certain flaws can be mitigated. When you look at a D.K. Metcalf and you see his HWS is off the charts, that's a huge positive. Then you see the 3-Cone and it's a red flag. Then you go back and watch the tape and see that his route tree doesn't really include a lot of the COD heavy routes and you start to see how the 3-Cone can be mitigated. Then you look for comparables and find that Calvin Johnson was almost identical on HWS AND 3-Cone AND presented the same route limitations, yet was incredibly productive over a ~10 season career that could've been much longer had he wanted it to be, and you find a path to Metcalf being a star. You get favorable injury luck and Russell Wilson throwing him the ball, and you have D.K. Metcalf where he is today.

JAFF 12-04-2020 08:37 PM

How was TY Hiltons numbers? Tape is more important than numbers. Players make PLAYS. All that other nonsense is for reporters and idiots on line.

Who here thought Darius Leonard was the steal of the draft? All that guy did was make plays. Plays like his hair’s on fire. Ther isnt a score for that. Its the eye test.

People in Indy wanted Ricky Williams and couldnt believe Polian took Edge. Polian and Ballard both know how to use the eye test. They know what a ball player looks like without a cone test

Dam8610 12-05-2020 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 177866)
How was TY Hiltons numbers? Tape is more important than numbers. Players make PLAYS. All that other nonsense is for reporters and idiots on line.

Who here thought Darius Leonard was the steal of the draft? All that guy did was make plays. Plays like his hair’s on fire. Ther isnt a score for that. Its the eye test.

People in Indy wanted Ricky Williams and couldnt believe Polian took Edge. Polian and Ballard both know how to use the eye test. They know what a ball player looks like without a cone test

Of course the film study is important, but it, like everything else, can be misleading. If evaluating talent was an exact science where you just needed to follow a formula of putting in X hours of film study on a player, no GM would ever get fired and no all pro or pro bowler would ever be drafted later than early round 2. A great example of this is Tremaine Edmunds. If you just watched his film, you saw a slow, plodding MLB who would be lucky to make it as a 34 ILB thumper in the NFL (because that's what I saw when just watching the film). Then you look at the measurables, he's 6'5" 250, runs a 4.54 40, and is only 19(!) at the time of the draft. Given that context, it becomes clearer that at 19 with very little football experience, what looked like a lack of speed was more likely a lack of experience properly diagnosing and reading a play, and given the right coaching staff, he would be the best clay any LB coach could ever ask for to mold and become a star. Sure enough, he made the Pro Bowl at 21, his second year starting in the NFL.


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