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HoosierinFL 03-16-2018 03:21 PM

You guys remember this story that came out last month?
http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com...the-2017-colts

Its an analysis of how the Colts lost their games this past year, and how historically bad they were at closing teams out, and how historically predictable they were with 4th quarter playcalling.
The take home message is that this roster is much better than 4 wins, and good coaching will make a mountain of a difference.
So no, we don't need a rebuild and overhaul of the roster.
Yes we need some new guys on the o-line, and some new LBs, and probably now a WR with Moncrieff gone.
But that's not an overhaul/rebuild. And I'm 100% on board with Ballard's approach of edit: not* overpaying for FAs, which upsets team chemistry. He wants leaders and to build from within.

He needs a culture change more than a talent change, and this approach is the way to do it.

Indiana V2 03-16-2018 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 59605)
You guys remember this story that came out last month?
http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com...the-2017-colts

Its an analysis of how the Colts lost their games this past year, and how historically bad they were at closing teams out, and how historically predictable they were with 4th quarter playcalling.
The take home message is that this roster is much better than 4 wins, and good coaching will make a mountain of a difference.
So no, we don't need a rebuild and overhaul of the roster.
Yes we need some new guys on the o-line, and some new LBs, and probably now a WR with Moncrieff gone.
But that's not an overhaul/rebuild. And I'm 100% on board with Ballard's approach of now overpaying for FAs, which upsets team chemistry. He wants leaders and to build from within.

He needs a culture change more than a talent change, and this approach is the way to do it.

Yeah, I suppose getting rid of Pagano and Chud are huge plusses.

1965southpaw 03-16-2018 05:44 PM

Why does everyone think of this in a binary fashion? It's not either talent or coaching. It's talent AND coaching. We have made an important, necessary first step in getting in a new coaching regime who will bring in a modern scheme. Now is the time to bring in some talent......using the draft to bring in playmakers/studs/superstars and using free agency to fill out the roster in areas of need/add depth/create competition. We all need to be a bit more patient. I really think Ballard/Reich will right the ship.....we've been taking on water for a long time but if Luck is really healthy we have the most important playmaker and with a modern scheme and some toys on defense and offense we will get there................or we will all go crazy/drink heavily/insert the vice of your choice.

Indiana V2 03-16-2018 05:54 PM

Melvin signed a 1 year 6.5 million contract with the Raiders...I mean seriously, we couldn't pay him that much?

1965southpaw 03-16-2018 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Indiana V2 (Post 59644)
Melvin signed a 1 year 6.5 million contract with the Raiders...I mean seriously, we couldn't pay him that much?

Yes, we could but that's not what he wanted from the colts. Per JMV Drew Rosenahaus and Melvin were asking Colts for a long term deal with money that was "way more" than 6.5 per year. When the Colts weren't willing to overpay he decided to "bet on himself" and accept a short term prove it deal w/Raiders.

YDFL Commish 03-16-2018 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 59605)
You guys remember this story that came out last month?
http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com...the-2017-colts

Its an analysis of how the Colts lost their games this past year, and how historically bad they were at closing teams out, and how historically predictable they were with 4th quarter playcalling.
The take home message is that this roster is much better than 4 wins, and good coaching will make a mountain of a difference.
So no, we don't need a rebuild and overhaul of the roster.
Yes we need some new guys on the o-line, and some new LBs, and probably now a WR with Moncrieff gone.
But that's not an overhaul/rebuild. And I'm 100% on board with Ballard's approach of edit: not* overpaying for FAs, which upsets team chemistry. He wants leaders and to build from within.

He needs a culture change more than a talent change, and this approach is the way to do it.

Quote:

Why does everyone think of this in a binary fashion? It's not either talent or coaching. It's talent AND coaching. We have made an important, necessary first step in getting in a new coaching regime who will bring in a modern scheme. Now is the time to bring in some talent......using the draft to bring in playmakers/studs/superstars and using free agency to fill out the roster in areas of need/add depth/create competition. We all need to be a bit more patient. I really think Ballard/Reich will right the ship.....we've been taking on water for a long time but if Luck is really healthy we have the most important playmaker and with a modern scheme and some toys on defense and offense we will get there................or we will all go crazy/drink heavily/insert the vice of your choice.
Two very good posts. Ballard is not going to use free agency pay huge coin to guys that have a resume that they haven't played up to recently, because either they are past their prime, or they are not working for it.

In free agency he's going to bring in solid, good locker room guys that can compete to fill the glaring holes.

When this team has established an identity of success, then Ballard can bring in the rare difference maker in free agency. But for now, he's going to get his difference makers from the draft.

Maniac 03-16-2018 06:43 PM

Looks like Ballard is getting pretty active in bringing guys in now. Hopefully they can get some deals done.

Oldcolt 03-16-2018 06:46 PM

Blowing all those leads last year we all knew was going to happen before it happened By the end the players also had to have known. That mindset, the bullshit nobody is responsible pagano mindset, has got to be completely purged. We’ll get to judge how successful Ballard has been at that by how they play the game next year. I’m optimistic because Ballard keeps talking about changing the ‘culture’. We shall see

omahacolt 03-16-2018 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 59666)
Blowing all those leads last year we all knew was going to happen before it happened By the end the players also had to have known. That mindset, the bullshit nobody is responsible pagano mindset, has got to be completely purged. We’ll get to judge how successful Ballard has been at that by how they play the game next year. I’m optimistic because Ballard keeps talking about changing the ‘culture’. We shall see

And pagano talked about nonsense as well

GoBigBlue88 03-16-2018 11:13 PM

Honestly, I don't give a shit if they don't get a Michael Crabtree or Honey Badger type. Whatever.

But letting the best OL continue walking is pretty dumb. You're gonna have to overpay for someone there if you want your QB to survive the year.


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