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Puck 12-29-2025 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 339964)
So BB knew Brady was that good all along but played Bledsoe instead....do you realize how stupid that sounds?

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/203...nasty-excerpt/

From Grok since I do not have the Athletic

Yes, according to a 2020 article in The Athletic (excerpted from Jeff Benedict's book The Dynasty), Bill Belichick believed Tom Brady had outperformed Drew Bledsoe during the 2001 preseason and privately told owner Robert Kraft at the end of preseason that he wanted Brady as the starter.However, Belichick did not bench Bledsoe at the time due to practical reasons: Bledsoe was the established face of the franchise with a massive new 10-year, $103 million contract signed in March 2001, and Belichick was coming off a 5-11 season in 2000 with limited job security.The article states: "If it had been up to Belichick, Brady would have been his starter at the beginning of the 2001 season. He had said as much to Kraft... but Belichick had known that he wasn’t in a position to push the issue then."Bledsoe's injury in Week 2 against the Jets ultimately allowed Belichick to start Brady without controversy. Multiple other sources (including NESN reports and retrospectives) corroborate this account, noting Brady impressed in camp but political/financial factors kept Bledsoe as the Week 1 starter.In short, Belichick thought Brady had earned the job in the summer of 2001, but it wasn't implemented until the injury forced the change.

Hoopsdoc 12-29-2025 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 339963)
I really can't explain it any better than I have, the internet is full of people who understand my point and agree that bringing in Rivers (again Ballard's decision, not Steichen's no matter how much he wanted him) would look like a foolish move if Leonard plays better in Houston.

Your point, as far as I can tell, is a dumb one.

Bringing in Rivers was 100 percent Shane Steichens idea, signed off on by CIG.

If Leonard goes out and plays well, that makes Steichen look dumb. That doesn’t reflect at all on Ballard.

Your hatred of Ballard seems to have made you irrational.

Puck 12-29-2025 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 340001)
Your point, as far as I can tell, is a dumb one.

Bringing in Rivers was 100 percent Shane Steichens idea, signed off on by CIG.

If Leonard goes out and plays well, that makes Steichen look dumb. That doesn’t reflect at all on Ballard.

Your hatred of Ballard seems to have made you irrational.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/artic...13132_43186525

When Colts reached out to Philip Rivers
Per a video shared by Colts radio announcer Matt Taylor, Steichen noted that he approached general manager Chris Ballard about reaching out to Rivers once the club learned that backup Riley Leonard was dealing with a strained knee ligament.
"He said, 'Heck yeah, I'm interested,'" Steichen said about the initial conversation with Rivers. Rivers then completed a successful workout with the Colts on Monday night before he decided on Tuesday that he wanted to make a return to an NFL squad.

Earlier on Wednesday, Albert Breer of Sports Illustrated wrote about how the relationship between Steichen and Rivers goes back to when Steichen was a defensive assistant with the then-San Diego Chargers in 2011. Steichen later served as Rivers' offensive coordinator with the Chargers.

"The coach and quarterback talk twice a week," Breer added about Steichen and Rivers.

YDFL Commish 12-29-2025 08:04 PM

If anybody on this board thinks that Riley Leonard was going to lead us to the playoffs, then the are delusional.

He didn't start last week, because he had no 1st team reps, and we weren't eliminated from the playoffs until Saturday. It would be dumb to not start him this week though.

Puck 12-29-2025 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 340035)
If anybody on this board thinks that Riley Leonard was going to lead us to the playoffs, then the are delusional.

He didn't start last week, because he had no 1st team reps, and we weren't eliminated from the playoffs until Saturday. It would be dumb to not start him this week though.

I'm reading that SS hasn't made his decision yet between Phil and Riley.

My thinking is that Rivers starts. they work to gets his yards (105 yds) to pass Big Ben then Riley takes it from there

If it were me I would just start Riley

YDFL Commish 12-29-2025 08:27 PM

I could see that scenario playing out. But, it took the better part of 4 qtr's for old man Phil to get to 105 yds. vs the Jags.

CletusPyle 12-29-2025 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 339985)
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/203...nasty-excerpt/

From Grok since I do not have the Athletic

Yes, according to a 2020 article in The Athletic (excerpted from Jeff Benedict's book The Dynasty), Bill Belichick believed Tom Brady had outperformed Drew Bledsoe during the 2001 preseason and privately told owner Robert Kraft at the end of preseason that he wanted Brady as the starter.However, Belichick did not bench Bledsoe at the time due to practical reasons: Bledsoe was the established face of the franchise with a massive new 10-year, $103 million contract signed in March 2001, and Belichick was coming off a 5-11 season in 2000 with limited job security.The article states: "If it had been up to Belichick, Brady would have been his starter at the beginning of the 2001 season. He had said as much to Kraft... but Belichick had known that he wasn’t in a position to push the issue then."Bledsoe's injury in Week 2 against the Jets ultimately allowed Belichick to start Brady without controversy. Multiple other sources (including NESN reports and retrospectives) corroborate this account, noting Brady impressed in camp but political/financial factors kept Bledsoe as the Week 1 starter.In short, Belichick thought Brady had earned the job in the summer of 2001, but it wasn't implemented until the injury forced the change.

You believe what you want, no way BB knew Brady was a potential GOAT and had him on the bench....what if Bledsoe doesn't get hurt? Ballard is a joke, you guys keep defending him and watch this franchise rot even further. He is a joke and the vast majority of Colts fans want him and Steichen gone at the end of the season. I don't mind Steichen, I think he is learning, was probably never the best choice, another Ballard fuck up!

CletusPyle 12-29-2025 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 340001)
Your point, as far as I can tell, is a dumb one.

Bringing in Rivers was 100 percent Shane Steichens idea, signed off on by CIG.

If Leonard goes out and plays well, that makes Steichen look dumb. That doesn’t reflect at all on Ballard.

Your hatred of Ballard seems to have made you irrational.

So I'm fucking stupid now, I wondered how long it would be before you resorted to insults! Ballard sucks as a GM, he has nearly destroyed this franchise but the worst part is fans like you continue to make excuses for him, defending to the death any time he is criticized!

Puck 12-29-2025 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 340051)
You believe what you want, no way BB knew Brady was a potential GOAT and had him on the bench....what if Bledsoe doesn't get hurt? Ballard is a joke, you guys keep defending him and watch this franchise rot even further. He is a joke and the vast majority of Colts fans want him and Steichen gone at the end of the season. I don't mind Steichen, I think he is learning, was probably never the best choice, another Ballard fuck up!

You asked for proof. I gave it to you from MANY SOURCES. IIRC there was a short video about Brady and BB that also talked about it.

Don't be bull headed

YDFL Commish 12-29-2025 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 340055)
So I'm fucking stupid now, I wondered how long it would be before you resorted to insults! Ballard sucks as a GM, he has nearly destroyed this franchise but the worst part is fans like you continue to make excuses for him, defending to the death any time he is criticized!

Dude, were you around for the sucktivity of 1972 through 1974, or 1978 to 1986 or the further embarrassment of 1991 to 1994?

If not, then you know nothing about destroyed franchises.

ChoppedWood 12-30-2025 12:29 AM

SS
2-9 vs Jags and Texans

gots to go man!

Hoopsdoc 12-30-2025 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 340055)
So I'm fucking stupid now, I wondered how long it would be before you resorted to insults! Ballard sucks as a GM, he has nearly destroyed this franchise but the worst part is fans like you continue to make excuses for him, defending to the death any time he is criticized!

I didn’t say you were dumb, I said the point you were making is dumb.

I’m ambivalent on whether Ballard stays or goes and I don’t think anyone has any real idea what CIG is going to do.

What I do think is that, overall, Ballard has built a pretty damn good roster. We saw that when we had decent quarterback play this season, for the first time really since Rivers retired 5 years ago.

Ballards failure has been in finding a quarterback, but he’s not the only GM who has failed in that regard. More than half the league is looking for a good quarterback at any given time. They are REALLY hard to come by unless you’re REALLY REALLY bad.

And the Colts haven’t been bad enough to get one, even with less than stellar quarterback play.

To me, it all comes down to finding a quarterback. Without a good quarterback, pretty much everything else is irrelevant. Carlie should hire the best person to somehow go out and find one. If she thinks that’s Chris Ballard, so be it. If not, fire his ass and hire someone who will.

My concern is the next guy is not going to be any better if we don’t have a quarterback, and will almost CERTAINLY be worse.

Puck 12-30-2025 07:45 PM

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Colts And Orioles 12-31-2025 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 340060)



Dude, were you around for the sucktivity of 1972 through 1974, or 1978 to 1986 or the further embarrassment of 1991 to 1994 ???

If not, then you know nothing about destroyed franchises.




o


I agree with this overall sentiment, although I think that the period from 1972 through 1974 was more about a rebuilding process to a younger and (eventually) better team rather than a ruination of the franchise. The 1970 Colts that won the Super Bowl was an excellent team, but they were starting to age. 1971 saw them lose in the AFC Championship game while aging some more, and 1972 saw them fall to a 5-9 season, with mostly close losses (while aging some more.)

The 1973 team was flat-out bad, and the 1974 team was worse ...... but they were gradually getting younger and better equipped for a solid run, which was due mostly to Joe Thomas' excellent work.

o

YDFL Commish 12-31-2025 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 340186)
o


I agree with this overall sentiment, although I think that the period from 1972 through 1974 was more about a rebuilding process to a younger and (eventually) better team rather than a ruination of the franchise. The 1970 Colts that won the Super Bowl was an excellent team, but they were starting to age. 1971 saw them lose in the AFC Championship game while aging some more, and 1972 saw them fall to a 5-9 season, with mostly close losses (while aging some more.)

The 1973 team was flat-out bad, and the 1974 team was worse ...... but they were gradually getting younger and better equipped for a solid run, which was due mostly to Joe Thomas' excellent work.

o

And I agree with your statements overall. But, Baltimore had become spoiled by winning...which was never going to last forever. Hell, you could see the cracks after 19's last great season 1967. The point being, if you if you aren't willing to last through the good or the mediocre...well you were not a true fan anyway.

Discflinger 12-31-2025 09:17 PM

Thank God that the season is over and I don't have to read any hater cw posts


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