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Coltsalr 03-09-2017 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherck (Post 5179)
If Ballard is willing to pay this to a WR when we already have Hilton, Moncrief, Dorsett and Rogers on the roster, I don't know what to think.

Passing offense was NOT the problem with our team last year.

I......don't have words if this was a serious report.

Cheers,
A touch more than that, apparently:

Stephen Holder‏ @HolderStephen 2m2 minutes ago
Agent source on Alshon Jeffrey: Asking price would be abt $14.5M year average bc he made that in 2016 on the franchise tag. *Asking* price


I have no words.

Wyatt 03-09-2017 12:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 5162)
Ian Rapoport‏ @RapSheet
The #Colts and the #Eagles are making a strong push to sign WR Alshon Jeffery, source said. Talks are continuing with the #Bears

THE FUCK BALLARD?
This would be a great move I could get behind......in my Madden franchise

Wyatt 03-09-2017 12:51 PM
@JasonColeBR
It appears the choice for G Kevin Zeitler is between #Saints, #Browns. #Jaguars appear to be out now.

rcubed 03-09-2017 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 5176)
I'm willing to wait until guys actually ink their contracts. It's POSSIBLE that part of Ballard's strategy is just to leak ridiculous things in order to try to game the market. It's possible that agents are just taking advantage of the fact that the Colts have an unknown at GM and their leaking their name all the time just to try to gin up business.

All of that's possible, but I will say I'm less confident than I thought I'd be heading into 4 pm.
it probable that the media is just linking the colts to almost anything since we need a lot of help, especially any OL or LB. The WR rumor is a bit confusing though, hope that one isnt true.

we didnt hear anything about doyle or allen until it happened.

Puck 03-09-2017 01:07 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...feJ_normal.jpg Stephen Holder ✔ @HolderStephen
Agent source on Alshon Jeffrey: Asking price would be abt $14.5M year average bc he made that in 2016 on the franchise tag. *Asking* price
11:46 AM - 9 Mar 2017

FatDT 03-09-2017 01:07 PM
Bullshit. We're not signing Jeffrey.

sherck 03-09-2017 01:14 PM
If we sign Jeffery (puke), then my guess is that Ballard would be trying to trade Moncrief for a draft pick since they are similar "big" body receivers.

Moncrief has 126 catches for 1,484 yards and 16 TD with 60% catch rate

Dorsett has 51 catches for 753 yards and 3 TD with 51.5% catch rate.

Dorsett would gain, at best, a 6th or 7th round draft pick.

Moncrief would do better than that....but not much better. 4th at best like Allen would be my bet.

This rumor makes zero sense.

Cheers,

FatDT 03-09-2017 01:29 PM
He's not even that good. He's missed something like 20 games in 5 years. Two good-great seasons, two ok, and a forgettable rookie year. I'd rather see Moncrief develop. Luck does not need another high-priced WR, he already has one that is much better than Jeffrey.

Puck 03-09-2017 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherck (Post 5204)
If we sign Jeffery (puke), then my guess is that Ballard would be trying to trade Moncrief for a draft pick since they are similar "big" body receivers.

Moncrief has 126 catches for 1,484 yards and 16 TD with 60% catch rate

Dorsett has 51 catches for 753 yards and 3 TD with 51.5% catch rate.

Dorsett would gain, at best, a 6th or 7th round draft pick.

Moncrief would do better than that....but not much better. 4th at best like Allen would be my bet.

This rumor makes zero sense.

Cheers,
I thought about it for a few minutes..... 1st thing the Colts have to do is win the division. With the Texans and their number one D we have to be able to score. Jags D looks to be getting better again we need to score. I could see moving Dorset and keeping TY Moncreif and Alshon as a way to do that and Doyle

So the next big hole is RG/RT I think he needs to address that in FA

I just dont see him wanting to spend big on the CB or Rush in FA, when he can do that through the draft.

While I don't see it as a huge need, I can see that he see's more positions in need of upgrade to make this team better.

Either that or we need to take a real look that Irsay may really have his hand in this

I don't know Im trying to make sense of it too just thinking outloud

Puck 03-09-2017 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 5206)
He's not even that good. He's missed something like 20 games in 5 years. Two good-great seasons, two ok, and a forgettable rookie year. I'd rather see Moncrief develop. Luck does not need another high-priced WR, he already has one that is much better than Jeffrey.


Agree and isnt that TY money or more????

Puck 03-09-2017 01:38 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...feJ_normal.jpg Stephen Holder ✔ @HolderStephen
Colts to make a push for Josh Gordon Ballard is all in on this offense

11:46 AM - 9 Mar 2017

Coltsalr 03-09-2017 01:43 PM
Adam Schefter‏
G Ron Leary plans to sign with the Denver Broncos assuming no last-minute negotiating snags, per sources.

Take one off the board.

Coltsalr 03-09-2017 01:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Puck (Post 5221)
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...feJ_normal.jpg Stephen Holder ✔ @HolderStephen
Colts to make a push for Josh Gordon Ballard is all in on this offense

11:46 AM - 9 Mar 2017

Looks like that tweet got taken down?

Wyatt 03-09-2017 01:45 PM
@PatriotsHaven
The Titans will be the Patriots biggest competitor for Hightower. He'll command 11-13 mil per season. NE is expected to get chance to match.

sherck 03-09-2017 02:05 PM
Hmmm....Ballard's "you cannot buy a locker room" comment....

The offense is set with an identity (Luck) and is already a top offense. Adding veteran free agents to it to make it one of the best in the league (OG, WR1b, RB) will not change its overall identity and any veterans added will not become a dominate voice on that squad with veterans like Luck, Gore, Stanzo, Hilton and Doyle in the house.

However, on defense, there are no veteran voices anymore except for Vontae Davis and lesser starters like Robinson, Jones, Langford and perhaps Butler if we re-sign him. Any high priced veteran we sign (especially at LB) will instantly become a leader on the defense and shape how that squad grows.

Right or wrong, I wonder how much of that mindset is playing into Ballard's free agency strategy?

I wonder if his "you cannot buy a locker room" comment will lead him to not bring in veteran defensive talent and instead insist that we "grow" that talent through the draft over the next two or three years?

Other than Poe, I have not seen us linked to many defensive free agents at all.

Something to think about. With a top 3 offense and a defense that climbs to average, we probably win the division.

Cheers,

Coltsalr 03-09-2017 02:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 5224)
@PatriotsHaven
The Titans will be the Patriots biggest competitor for Hightower. He'll command 11-13 mil per season. NE is expected to get chance to match.
We apparently can't be bothered.

Puck 03-09-2017 02:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherck (Post 5225)
Hmmm....Ballard's "you cannot buy a locker room" comment....

The offense is set with an identity (Luck) and is already a top offense. Adding veteran free agents to it to make it one of the best in the league (OG, WR1b, RB) will not change its overall identity and any veterans added will not become a dominate voice on that squad with veterans like Luck, Gore, Stanzo, Hilton and Doyle in the house.

However, on defense, there are no veteran voices anymore except for Vontae Davis and lesser starters like Robinson, Jones, Langford and perhaps Butler if we re-sign him. Any high priced veteran we sign (especially at LB) will instantly become a leader on the defense and shape how that squad grows.

Right or wrong, I wonder how much of that mindset is playing into Ballard's free agency strategy?

I wonder if his "you cannot buy a locker room" comment will lead him to not bring in veteran defensive talent and instead insist that we "grow" that talent through the draft over the next two or three years?

Other than Poe, I have not seen us linked to many defensive free agents at all.

Something to think about. With a top 3 offense and a defense that climbs to becomes average, we probably win the division.

Cheers,
we are linked to Chris Baker and now Conner Barwin

Puck 03-09-2017 02:10 PM
Meaning out of Washington I believe

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...feJ_normal.jpg Stephen Holder ✔ @HolderStephen
Means Redskins DT Chris Baker likely headed elsewhere. College teammate and close friend of Kendall Langford. https://twitter.com/MikeJonesWaPo/status/839887048140013568 …

sherck 03-09-2017 02:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Puck (Post 5227)
we are linked to Chris Baker and now Conner Barwin
Yeah, I have seen the Chris Baker notes. He would be a good addition. However, of any position group on defense, our DE position with Jones, Langford, Anderson, Ridgeway and McGill is about the strongest on that side of the ball. Adding a veteran there would still not change the identity of that squad.

I saw Barwin but dismissed it because he does not fit the profile. He has played as a 4-3 DE for the past 4 years in PHI, he is already 30 years old and his production is declining.

Cheers,

Coltsalr 03-09-2017 02:14 PM
Ian Rapoport‏ @RapSheet
The #Jaguars are closing in on a deal for former #Texans CB AJ Bouye, per @JamesPalmerTV and me. They are bringing it.

Rotoworld Football @Rotoworld_FB
Report: Bucs favorites to land FA Chris Baker


Are we gonna get ANYONE?

Brylok 03-09-2017 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Puck (Post 5202)
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...feJ_normal.jpg Stephen Holder ✔ @HolderStephen
Agent source on Alshon Jeffrey: Asking price would be abt $14.5M year average bc he made that in 2016 on the franchise tag. *Asking* price
11:46 AM - 9 Mar 2017
I really, really hope this doesn't happen. They must not have any faith in Dorsett.

sherck 03-09-2017 02:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 5239)
Are we gonna get ANYONE?
Nope.

See my note above. It would not shock me if we sign none or only one veteran defensive free agents.

I am becoming convinced that Ballard is going with the long view and will want to build the defense pretty much solely through the draft.

However, to give him time and take the pressure off, he is going to pump the offense up to rock star levels in order to win games.

Wide Receivers before Linebackers. Oh my.......

Cheers,

Wyatt 03-09-2017 02:30 PM
@kentsomers
#azcardinals have reached agreement w/ SS Antoine Bethea on a 3-year deal, per source. Takes Jefferson’s spot.

sherck 03-09-2017 02:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 5243)
@kentsomers
#azcardinals have reached agreement w/ SS Antoine Bethea on a 3-year deal, per source. Takes Jefferson’s spot.
He did not stay unemployed long. Good for him! Not a bad career for a 6th rounder out of Howard U.

Cheers,

Indiana V2 03-09-2017 02:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 5241)
I really, really hope this doesn't happen. They must not have any faith in Dorsett.
Or Moncrief?

Brylok 03-09-2017 02:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 5243)
@kentsomers
#azcardinals have reached agreement w/ SS Antoine Bethea on a 3-year deal, per source. Takes Jefferson’s spot.
Another player who should have remained a Colt.

Indiana V2 03-09-2017 02:38 PM
If we don't start ponying up for some of these quality FA's with this cap space, we are going to end up overpaying for guys that suck. Grigson Part 2.

Wyatt 03-09-2017 02:41 PM
Santa Claus Indiana's own Jay Cutler has been released from the Bears, looks like the Jets are interested

Wyatt 03-09-2017 02:43 PM
Perry
 
@JasonLaCanfora
Packers are paying Nick Perry big-time: $20.8M cash in 2017 ($18.5M to sign). Makes $39M over 1st 3 years. $60M/5yrs. Wow

FatDT 03-09-2017 02:46 PM
$12M/year for a non-premier pass rusher is bonkers.

sherck 03-09-2017 02:49 PM
Quote:
The Cardinals announced the second phase of acquiring Chandler Jones by tying him down to a long-term contract. The five year, $83 million deal ($53 million guaranteed) resets the market for pass-rushers. It surpasses Olivier Vernon’s contract with the Giants. Vernon received $40 million guaranteed and $17 million per season.
Which is more bonkers? $12m a year for a non-pass rusher or $16.5m a year for Jones?

Cheers,

Coltsalr 03-09-2017 02:52 PM
That makes him the #7 paid OLB in the NFL.

It's a little hard to fault Ballard for not giving him more money per annum than Ryan Kerrigan

rcubed 03-09-2017 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherck (Post 5225)
Hmmm....Ballard's "you cannot buy a locker room" comment....

The offense is set with an identity (Luck) and is already a top offense. Adding veteran free agents to it to make it one of the best in the league (OG, WR1b, RB) will not change its overall identity and any veterans added will not become a dominate voice on that squad with veterans like Luck, Gore, Stanzo, Hilton and Doyle in the house.

However, on defense, there are no veteran voices anymore except for Vontae Davis and lesser starters like Robinson, Jones, Langford and perhaps Butler if we re-sign him. Any high priced veteran we sign (especially at LB) will instantly become a leader on the defense and shape how that squad grows.

Right or wrong, I wonder how much of that mindset is playing into Ballard's free agency strategy?

I wonder if his "you cannot buy a locker room" comment will lead him to not bring in veteran defensive talent and instead insist that we "grow" that talent through the draft over the next two or three years?

Other than Poe, I have not seen us linked to many defensive free agents at all.

Something to think about. With a top 3 offense and a defense that climbs to average, we probably win the division.

Cheers,
I took that quote to mean you cant just throw money at a problem and expect it to work. Its not sustainable and personalities can be an issue. See: Washington Redskins

FatDT 03-09-2017 03:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherck (Post 5251)
Which is more bonkers? $12m a year for a non-pass rusher or $16.5m a year for Jones?

Cheers,
I want to say both. I did not consider Vernon to be a premier pass rusher either. I guess drafting them is the way to go.

Wyatt 03-09-2017 03:08 PM
@mortreport 1m1 minute ago
Cowboys now expect to trade Tony Romo to Broncos or Texans, sources say. Broncos talking with Jets about Trevor Siemian.

sherck 03-09-2017 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 5268)
@mortreport 1m1 minute ago
Cowboys now expect to trade Tony Romo to Broncos or Texans, sources say. Broncos talking with Jets about Trevor Siemian.
Thank goodness we were able to go from Peyton to Andrew.

And that we did not draft Ryan Leaf or RGIII!

Being in QB hell just sucks for NFL teams.


Cheers,

sherck 03-09-2017 03:14 PM
Discontent.

That is the word for what I am feeling.

Discontent.


DO SOMETHING, BALLARD!





Cheers,

Coltsalr 03-09-2017 03:16 PM
Josina Anderson‏ @JosinaAnderson 55s56 seconds ago
I'm told, as of now, WR Alshon Jeffery is leaning towards choosing the #Eagles when free agency starts

PLEASE DO. SAVE US FROM OURSELVES.

Wyatt 03-09-2017 03:16 PM
Interesting Graphic
 
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Found this graphic and thought it gives some interesting prospective....thoughts?

sherck 03-09-2017 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 5272)
Found this graphic and thought it gives some interesting prospective....thoughts?
I think that Dan Snyder has got to be pissed that six teams have spent more in free agency that he has.

Cheers,


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