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omahacolt 01-30-2021 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185606)
I was thinking Darnold might be plan B. Not as good as Stafford. But he’s 23 with three seasons under his belt. Depends what the jets do at 2.

I would be fine with Darnold if he was cheap. and really if it isn’t Stafford I am for anyone but Brissett

albany ed 01-30-2021 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185607)
Rumor of 49ers offer for Stafford is

2021: 2nd and 3rd
2022: 2nd and 3rd

Per Vincent Frank

If true, I would say that's just the starting point, awaiting a counter offer from the Lions. If they trade Stafford, they'll need a QB, so maybe the Rams can offer Goff and some draft picks. It's going to take a lot to get Stafford since there will be so many interested parties. I'm sure that like Watson, they would prefer Stafford go to another division and maybe even the other conference.

rcubed 01-30-2021 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 185661)
If true, I would say that's just the starting point, awaiting a counter offer from the Lions. If they trade Stafford, they'll need a QB, so maybe the Rams can offer Goff and some draft picks. It's going to take a lot to get Stafford since there will be so many interested parties. I'm sure that like Watson, they would prefer Stafford go to another division and maybe even the other conference.


There is a lot of talk on LA sports talk radio about trading for stafford. The GM did not give a ringing endorsement for goff after the season. Asked multiple times if goff is the QB next season he said something like “he is on the team right now”


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Hoopsdoc 01-30-2021 11:51 AM

Albert Breer just said on FSR that there are at least 7 teams in on Stafford-49’ers, Rams, WFT, Indy, Carolina, New England, and one other that I’m forgetting right now.

That’s some stiff competition. And we know that Ballard will draw a line in the sand in terms of what he’s willing to give up, and he won’t go over that.

I get the feeling that the Colts will end up missing out on Stafford. There are to many other good options. Playing in California for either Shanahan or Mcvay would be a huge draw for a guy like Stafford. Not to mention WFT has a really good team outside of qb.

Breer also said that NFL people think much more highly of Stafford as a quarterback than the average fan does.

Edit-Breer also said he’s hearing that Detroit wants to get this trade done before the super bowl.

Dam8610 01-30-2021 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 185661)
If true, I would say that's just the starting point, awaiting a counter offer from the Lions. If they trade Stafford, they'll need a QB, so maybe the Rams can offer Goff and some draft picks. It's going to take a lot to get Stafford since there will be so many interested parties. I'm sure that like Watson, they would prefer Stafford go to another division and maybe even the other conference.

Stafford will not require as much as Watson. He's going into his age 33 season, so we can only really count on 4-5 years of quality play from him. That's not worth as much as the 10+ you'll get from Watson.

Oldcolt 01-30-2021 12:13 PM

I cannot see Ballard getting into a bidding war for Stafford. I am also concerned that he does not seem win much. I know he has had crappy teams but quarterbacks in that first tier can almost will their teams to a win. He cannot.

Chromeburn 01-30-2021 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 185664)
Albert Breer just said on FSR that there are at least 7 teams in on Stafford-49’ers, Rams, WFT, Indy, Carolina, New England, and one other that I’m forgetting right now.

That’s some stiff competition. And we know that Ballard will draw a line in the sand in terms of what he’s willing to give up, and he won’t go over that.

I get the feeling that the Colts will end up missing out on Stafford. There are to many other good options. Playing in California for either Shanahan or Mcvay would be a huge draw for a guy like Stafford. Not to mention WFT has a really good team outside of qb.

Breer also said that NFL people think much more highly of Stafford as a quarterback than the average fan does.

Edit-Breer also said he’s hearing that Detroit wants to get this trade done before the super bowl.

Denver? Some guy on twitter said Stafford is buying a house in San Fran and has his bags packed.

I see a lot of those ‘reports’ during things like this. Coaching changes etc.

I think it will come down to who is willing to give up a first. If not then it will be highest second I think.

albany ed 01-30-2021 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 185667)
I cannot see Ballard getting into a bidding war for Stafford. I am also concerned that he does not seem win much. I know he has had crappy teams but quarterbacks in that first tier can almost will their teams to a win. He cannot.

Although since 2009 he has 31 4th quarter comebacks. That's almost a 3 per season average.

Voosh 01-30-2021 03:14 PM

I agree with Hoopsdoc and think Stafford may go out of Ballard's set price range. It is hard to tell though because if Ballard really wants him he may push all the chips forward like with Buckner. A lot of competition this time around though.

JAFF 01-30-2021 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 185663)
There is a lot of talk on LA sports talk radio about trading for stafford. The GM did not give a ringing endorsement for goff after the season. Asked multiple times if goff is the QB next season he said something like “he is on the team right now”


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How do they unload Goff. They gave him a stupid large contract too early, whos dumb enough to eat both goff and staffords cap number?

Hoopsdoc 01-30-2021 03:54 PM

I’m guessing San Francisco will be the spot. If that happens, I think Garrappolo has a decent shot at ending up in Indy.

Oldcolt 01-30-2021 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 185683)
I’m guessing San Francisco will be the spot. If that happens, I think Garrappolo has a decent shot at ending up in Indy.

I hope not. Giving up a draft choice and having Garrappolo being the man going forward for the foreseeable future doesn't sound like anything to get excited about. Would rather draft our own mediocre qb.

Chromeburn 01-30-2021 04:13 PM

Rams emerging as a favorite?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/m...de-per-report/

Maniac 01-30-2021 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185685)

Lions are dumb if they make that trade. They are rebuilding and are going to suck. Taking on a large contract like Goff's is just going to hinder that rebuild. They need to trade Stafford for picks to properly rebuild, or for a young QB on a rookie deal.

Hoopsdoc 01-30-2021 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 185684)
I hope not. Giving up a draft choice and having Garrappolo being the man going forward for the foreseeable future doesn't sound like anything to get excited about. Would rather draft our own mediocre qb.

I more had in mind as a free agent, assuming he’s not included in the trade. If he’s not, he’s gonna get cut, because no one is gonna give them anything with Stafford there.

Now, New England would be the obvious destination, but we don’t know if he’d even be interested in that. There would be much better situations.

Chromeburn 01-30-2021 04:36 PM

Trade seems to be heating up and could happen before the super bowl.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/n...ll/4323287001/

Colts and 49ers are favorites. Rams are a sleeper supposedly.

Colts And Orioles 01-30-2021 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 185689)



A trade seems to be heating up, and could happen before the Super Bowl.


https://www.freep.com/story/sports/n...ll/4323287001/


The Colts and the 49ers are the 2 favorites. The Rams are a sleeper, supposedly.




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The ultimate irony ........ The "Detroit Free Press" has a pay-wall.

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Oldcolt 01-30-2021 07:23 PM

This is an extremely fluid situation where I get the feeling everyone is talking out their asses. I am enjoying it as there is nothing else to do (I am one of those idiots that believes COVID is dangerous and is isolating). People are now thinking that the Colts will not be involved in bidding up Stafford. Thinking is Ballard may be willing to put resources into trading up in the draft, even if it means multiple #1's. There are a ton of options at qb out there. Get this one right Ballard!!

Spike 01-30-2021 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 185683)
I’m guessing San Francisco will be the spot. If that happens, I think Garrappolo has a decent shot at ending up in Indy.

Not excited about Jimmy G in a Colts uniform. I wouldn't trade much for him at all. He's really too damn injury prone to top it off. Let him go to the Patsies.

Spike 01-30-2021 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 185682)
How do they unload Goff. They gave him a stupid large contract too early, whos dumb enough to eat both goff and staffords cap number?

100% correct. I don't see the Rams as a viable option, Rams are stuck with Goff.

Spike 01-30-2021 08:05 PM

Really believe it is between the Colts and 49ers. The Ford family loves Stafford and I really think Stafford will have some say on where he goes as long as the compensation is close. Stafford's best chance is playing for Reich or Shanahan.

rcubed 01-30-2021 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 185700)
100% correct. I don't see the Rams as a viable option, Rams are stuck with Goff.


I dont know the details but they were able to trade gurley after giving him a big contract then basically not playing him


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Spike 01-30-2021 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 185703)
I dont know the details but they were able to trade gurley after giving him a big contract then basically not playing him


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Without going into a lot of details, Goff's contract is different than Gurley's.

Entering 2021, Goff has $43 million in guaranteed money remaining on his contract.

The following kind of explains the Gurly situation.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...rmer-superstar

Chromeburn 01-30-2021 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 185698)
This is an extremely fluid situation where I get the feeling everyone is talking out their asses. I am enjoying it as there is nothing else to do (I am one of those idiots that believes COVID is dangerous and is isolating). People are now thinking that the Colts will not be involved in bidding up Stafford. Thinking is Ballard may be willing to put resources into trading up in the draft, even if it means multiple #1's. There are a ton of options at qb out there. Get this one right Ballard!!

A lot of bluffing I’m sure. Detroit trying to get everything they can.

JAFF 01-30-2021 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 185698)
This is an extremely fluid situation where I get the feeling everyone is talking out their asses. !

Dont fight that feeling.

Chromeburn 01-30-2021 11:03 PM

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...tthew-stafford


I don’t know how accurate their packages are.


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