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Thorgrim 11-04-2025 05:17 PM

I like the trade even if it doesn’t pan out. This is a reversal of his mo of keeping our own and hoping for improvement commensurate with experience. Evidence has proven a more aggressive approach is needed especially when your record shows the window is open. At least he isn’t sitting on his hands. I’d be pissed if we were one and done in the playoffs if he hadn’t made a trade to improve the team. Now if we falter it can’t be blamed on lack of aggressive roster building. Ballard and Steichen are very aware of Carlie’s expectations and I think he’s doing everything he can to secure his job for next year.

nate505 11-04-2025 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BCN#1 (Post 332998)
Just to clarify my concern, we give up 2 first and AD for arguably an awesone CB but b¡g money down the road owed and if he get injured right away, then WTF?

Hate to be a negative Nelly here here but still seems a high price. I hope like hell you all are right and I am full of shit as my wife usually tells me. :-)

It's a no doubt risk and probably an overpay. Still, I like the general idea that this team could win it all this year and they tried to make themselves better to do it, instead of being in the perpetual 7-9 win club every year.

omahacolt 11-04-2025 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 332984)
I see this as a move to improve the pass rush. Corners who can cover give the rushers more time to get to the QB, and we have been getting close. Now, we should see the pressures become sacks.

not when we let te's just run wild on our lbers

omahacolt 11-04-2025 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 332986)
I would guess that with Mitchell thrown in, we see an extension on Pierce in the near future.

pierce and jones

omahacolt 11-04-2025 06:33 PM

traded too much for my liking but if he plays at an all pro level for his contract then who cares



this secondary should be fantastic. I must thought with Jones coming back, he was good enough to be that #2

ChaosTheory 11-04-2025 06:35 PM

If they were going to make a move, I was on team-DB over pass-rusher. Two 1st-rounders is huge, but he's arguably CB1 in the league (I'm really surprised he was on the table at all) and he's under contract for 4-years and I think I heard his bonuses are already paid.(?)

Add that to Ward's 3-years, Moore for at least another year, Walley coming back on a rookie deal and it's a little less jarring of a price-tag.

I think this is now five 1st-rounders Ballard has traded away.

Racehorse 11-04-2025 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 333012)
I'm def not worried about losing AD, he has potential still but at this point he's still developmental and Dulin is holding down the WR4 spot very solidly.

If we need a body, bring back Zach Pascal!

Treadwell

Racehorse 11-04-2025 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 333038)
If they were going to make a move, I was on team-DB over pass-rusher. Two 1st-rounders is huge, but he's arguably CB1 in the league (I'm really surprised he was on the table at all) and he's under contract for 4-years and I think I heard his bonuses are already paid.(?)

Add that to Ward's 3-years, Moore for at least another year, Walley coming back on a rookie deal and it's a little less jarring of a price-tag.

I think this is now five 1st-rounders Ballard has traded away.

I agree. The pressures have been there. Lou likes to play more DBs than LBs, so this move makes a lot of sense for his scheme.

Butter 11-04-2025 07:16 PM

Apparently, Gardner is taking Downs 1#, I no longer approve of this trade, that number was perfect for Josh "First" Downs.

ChaosTheory 11-04-2025 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 333047)
Apparently, Gardner is taking Downs 1#, I no longer approve of this trade, that number was perfect for Josh "First" Downs.

Downs switching to #2, same as his brother at Ohio St.


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