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Colts And Orioles 12-15-2025 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 338184)
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(vs. SEAHAWKS, 12/14)


My initial feeling was that after today the Colts should go with Riley Leonard, but not anymore ...... after starting the game going 3-for-8, Philip Rivers went 15-for-19, and that includes when he intentionally threw the ball away several times.

In my rat's ass of an opinion, Rivers is the guy that we ought have in there going forward for the rest of the season.

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 338196)



A guy who can't roll out, scramble or even run one yard ??? Can't avoid a sack, and definitely not a QB sneak in him anywhere. Can't throw over 15 yards without it looking like a hanging knuckle ball. Ya, lets fucking do that.




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As I just said in my previous post, this is probably correct, and the best decision now would be to go with Riley Leonard for the team's final 3 games of the season.

We probably caught lightning-in-a-bottle with Philip Rivers yesterday, and that is probably the best that we'll see of him if he continues to play ...... and as Sherck pointed out, there is a good chance that other teams will adjust to him now that they have seen him play, and they will probably start picking off his short, looping passes.


I stand corrected.

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Colts And Orioles 12-16-2025 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 338286)
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As I just said in my previous post, this is probably correct, and the best decision now would be to go with Riley Leonard for the team's final 3 games of the season.

We probably caught lightning-in-a-bottle with Philip Rivers yesterday, and that is probably the best that we'll see of him if he continues to play ...... and as Sherck pointed out, there is a good chance that other teams will adjust to him now that they have seen him play, and they will probably start picking off his short, looping passes.


I stand corrected.

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As I just yesterday in another thread, I have changed my mind again ...... I believe that Uncle Phil gives us the best chance to win, as Puck asserted.

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Racehorse 12-16-2025 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 338439)
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As I just yesterday in another thread, I have changed my mind again ...... I believe that Uncle Phil gives us the best chance to win, as Puck asserted.

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I never would have guessed that you were female, but this constant changing of you mind leaves no doubt.

Colts And Orioles 12-23-2025 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 338439)
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As I just yesterday in another thread, I have changed my mind again ...... I believe that Uncle Phil gives us the best chance to win, as Puck asserted.

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Uncle Phil was fine tonight ...... the Colts' defense was absolutely atrocious.

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Puck 12-23-2025 12:56 AM

I want Uncle Phil as our OC

apballin 12-23-2025 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 339211)
I want Uncle Phil as our OC

At this point I just want him to prep Leonard as much as he can these last 2 games. Our only hope right now is he shows signs he can be our qb for the future

Oldcolt 12-23-2025 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 339212)
At this point I just want him to prep Leonard as much as he can these last 2 games. Our only hope right now is he shows signs he can be our qb for the future

You are a true fan holding out hope that Leonard is our future. I gotta admire your ability to do this.

apballin 12-23-2025 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 339224)
You are a true fan holding out hope that Leonard is our future. I gotta admire your ability to do this.

It’s almost like his been groomed for it especially if Steichen is the coach, the whole Steichen-Rivers-Leonard dynamic

Lov2fish 12-23-2025 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 339224)
You are a true fan holding out hope that Leonard is our future. I gotta admire your ability to do this.

Kid on the other side last night was a late round pick with so much predraft garbage on him, which lead to his draft position. Turned out ok for him.

Brady was a late round with knocks and reasons why he couldn't play in the NFL. Bledsoe getting hurt proved them to be idiots as well. History in the NFL tells you anyone can succeed despite what the pundits say. We won't know which side he falls on until he gets the chance. We ain't making the playoffs so might as well see. Barring a miracle we won't see DJ next year, so something has to work.

Oldcolt 12-23-2025 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 339231)
Kid on the other side last night was a late round pick with so much predraft garbage on him, which lead to his draft position. Turned out ok for him.

Brady was a late round with knocks and reasons why he couldn't play in the NFL. Bledsoe getting hurt proved them to be idiots as well. History in the NFL tells you anyone can succeed despite what the pundits say. We won't know which side he falls on until he gets the chance. We ain't making the playoffs so might as well see. Barring a miracle we won't see DJ next year, so something has to work.

I don't disagree that seeing what he has is a decent idea. Nothing to lose. I just don't think he has anything. You could have pointed out that the great Johnny Unitas was a 9th round pick of the Steelers who they cut. That has happened once in 105 years of NFL. With the two you said (and Purdy has not won anything yet) that makes 3 in 105 years. Not likely to happen.

Colts And Orioles 12-23-2025 01:24 PM

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A) l Since the retirement of Andrew Luck in 2019, the only season in which the Colts were a bona-fide contender was 2020, when our starting quarterback was Philip Rivers.


B) l When the Colts' once-sizzling 2025 season was coming apart, the man who almost salvaged it and saved it from ruin was ...... Philip Rivers.



Something tells me that Irsay and Ballard ought to beg Uncle Phil to come back and play in 2025, as he appears to be a modern-day Earl Morrall/George Blanda.

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Hoopsdoc 12-23-2025 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 339212)
At this point I just want him to prep Leonard as much as he can these last 2 games. Our only hope right now is he shows signs he can be our qb for the future

I’m guessing if someone other than Rivers plays any at all, it will be AR, assuming he starts practicing.

But it’s a moot point because they’re gonna ride with Rivers.

ChaosTheory 12-23-2025 02:08 PM

AR can't even be on the sidelines without sunglasses. He's fucked up. That "cleared to work out" designation is really not registering with people.

CletusPyle 12-23-2025 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 339254)
AR can't even be on the sidelines without sunglasses. He's fucked up. That "cleared to work out" designation is really not registering with people.

LOL....I wondered if I was the only one noticing that! It is a tragic story, but AR is just not cut out for the NFL. No shame in that, 90% of the population couldn't hold up to the physicality, let alone have the skills required to be the QB.

apballin 12-23-2025 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 339250)
I’m guessing if someone other than Rivers plays any at all, it will be AR, assuming he starts practicing.

But it’s a moot point because they’re gonna ride with Rivers.

Probably especially if Texans lose to the chargers

Puck 12-23-2025 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 339265)
LOL....I wondered if I was the only one noticing that! It is a tragic story, but AR is just not cut out for the NFL. No shame in that, 90% of the population couldn't hold up to the physicality, let alone have the skills required to be the QB.

I noticed it as well, Just a thought. Maybe he didnt want the cameras on his eyes during the game. Also I wonder if the pre game light show could iritate his eyes.

I do agree that there must still be issues.

I'm rooting for the kid. Just not this yr

Puck 12-23-2025 06:10 PM

I will add that if the Texans lose on Saturday it has to be Rivers at QB against the Jags.

If we are out I hope they put in Riley to shut everyone up who thinks he's ready.

NO WAY he can run that offense like rivers can. NO WAY But some will need to see it for themselves.

And I am a Riley fan. Just not yet

Puck 12-23-2025 06:20 PM

James Boyd
@RomeovilleKid
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#Colts HC Shane Steichen says QB Philip Rivers will start against the #Jaguars regardless of whether Indy is eliminated from the playoffs.

Says it wouldn't be "fair" to Riley Leonard to start the rookie on 24 hours notice if Rivers takes the first-team reps all week.

Lov2fish 12-23-2025 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 339235)
I don't disagree that seeing what he has is a decent idea. Nothing to lose. I just don't think he has anything. You could have pointed out that the great Johnny Unitas was a 9th round pick of the Steelers who they cut. That has happened once in 105 years of NFL. With the two you said (and Purdy has not won anything yet) that makes 3 in 105 years. Not likely to happen.

I don't disagree, but we will never know if we don't throw him out there in the line of fire. I know statistically I am most likely wrong, but with the season a huge disappointment letting a 44 year old stir the ship while it is taking on water is probably not the wisest decision. Sans the QB position there is still a ton of NFL players drafted beyond the 4th. round playing and contributing. Shake the tree and see what falls out.

omahacolt 12-23-2025 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 339281)
I will add that if the Texans lose on Saturday it has to be Rivers at QB against the Jags.

If we are out I hope they put in Riley to shut everyone up who thinks he's ready.

NO WAY he can run that offense like rivers can. NO WAY But some will need to see it for themselves.

And I am a Riley fan. Just not yet

Leonard wasn't a great passer in college. seems like a really good kid but I just don't understand why people think he may be any kind of answer

CletusPyle 12-23-2025 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 339292)
Leonard wasn't a great passer in college. seems like a really good kid but I just don't understand why people think he may be any kind of answer

He's done everything ask of him, worked hard all season, and when he was forced into action unexpectedly did a respectable job and actually showed some promise....then when it looks like he gets his chance they bring in a 44 year old that hadn't played in 5 years....but he didn't bitch or complain and instead, from what I've heard, he has been very supportive and trying to learn all he can from Rivers.

That's the kind of kid I will be rooting for, and he wouldn't be the first guy that was underestimated and proved the experts wrong. If we are eliminated Sunday I hope Riley starts in Houston.

apballin 12-23-2025 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 339292)
Leonard wasn't a great passer in college. seems like a really good kid but I just don't understand why people think he may be any kind of answer

He’s a competitor he’s played in high stakes games in college so he’s not afraid of the moment. Then when forced out there he played good in a really tough situation against a really good defense.

A lot of qbs weren’t great passers in college and he played in a run heavy offense so I’m not gonna hold that against him.

I’ll take the tough competitor as my qb every time, we’re clearly not asking any QB to be Mahomes or Allen in this offense.

apballin 12-23-2025 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 339282)
James Boyd
@RomeovilleKid
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#Colts HC Shane Steichen says QB Philip Rivers will start against the #Jaguars regardless of whether Indy is eliminated from the playoffs.

Says it wouldn't be "fair" to Riley Leonard to start the rookie on 24 hours notice if Rivers takes the first-team reps all week.

The same Shane Steichen that told Anthony Richardson he’s 1 play away.

If he’s not ready or wasn’t ready they should’ve brought in a QB when Jones originally got hurt

YDFL Commish 12-23-2025 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 339308)
The same Shane Steichen that told Anthony Richardson he’s 1 play away.

If he’s not ready or wasn’t ready they should’ve brought in a QB when Jones originally got hurt

Who?

Hoopsdoc 12-23-2025 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 339282)
James Boyd
@RomeovilleKid
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2h
#Colts HC Shane Steichen says QB Philip Rivers will start against the #Jaguars regardless of whether Indy is eliminated from the playoffs.

Says it wouldn't be "fair" to Riley Leonard to start the rookie on 24 hours notice if Rivers takes the first-team reps all week.

Rivers and Steichen are asshole buddies.

Unless Rivers gets hurt or gets typhoid fever or something, he’s taking every snap for the rest of the season.

My guess is Steichen wants to persuade Rivers to come back next year.

CletusPyle 12-23-2025 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 339316)
Rivers and Steichen are asshole buddies.

Unless Rivers gets hurt or gets typhoid fever or something, he’s taking every snap for the rest of the season.

My guess is Steichen wants to persuade Rivers to come back next year.

Rivers is much better than I thought he would be, the guy can still play! He's played two games and we were competitive in both games, but we also lost both games...if he loses again Sunday I hope the experiment is over!

Oldcolt 12-23-2025 10:54 PM

This whole discussion is depressing. We are arguing over Riley Leonard vs Phillip Rivers as our QB. What a shitshow.

Puck 12-23-2025 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 339316)
Rivers and Steichen are asshole buddies.

Unless Rivers gets hurt or gets typhoid fever or something, he’s taking every snap for the rest of the season.

My guess is Steichen wants to persuade Rivers to come back next year.

What could you possibly expect to see from Leonard? Do you really think he gives the team the best chance to win? Do you think the guys on the team playing for wins, bonuses etc would choose the kid who hasn't done anything to get those for them?

Do you think we as fans need to see what the coaches and players see everyday in practice to decide if he is the future? So far the coaches say no. I don't hear any player on the team showing disappointment in PR playing

apballin 12-23-2025 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 339323)
This whole discussion is depressing. We are arguing over Riley Leonard vs Phillip Rivers as our QB. What a shitshow.

I’m not arguing just over the Steichen quotes don’t mean anything to me at this point

omahacolt 12-24-2025 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 339301)
He's done everything ask of him, worked hard all season, and when he was forced into action unexpectedly did a respectable job and actually showed some promise....then when it looks like he gets his chance they bring in a 44 year old that hadn't played in 5 years....but he didn't bitch or complain and instead, from what I've heard, he has been very supportive and trying to learn all he can from Rivers.

That's the kind of kid I will be rooting for, and he wouldn't be the first guy that was underestimated and proved the experts wrong. If we are eliminated Sunday I hope Riley starts in Houston.

for sure. he seems like an easy guy to root for. I hope he is an amazing player but the fact that they brought in rivers should tell you where he is as a player.


it would be awesome if he was a quality starter but I am guessing his ceiling is a quality backup. and that is fine by me. he clearly isn't ready though


all that said, this is the colts, so he may be the best QB to ever play and the colts might fuck that evaluation up

Colts And Orioles 12-24-2025 09:05 PM

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This article was written on Monday, prior to the Colts' game against the 49ers.




Inside Philip Rivers’ Startling NFL Comeback

(By Ryan Hockensmith)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...g-nfl-comeback

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Puck 12-24-2025 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 339404)
for sure. he seems like an easy guy to root for. I hope he is an amazing player but the fact that they brought in rivers should tell you where he is as a player.


it would be awesome if he was a quality starter but I am guessing his ceiling is a quality backup. and that is fine by me. he clearly isn't ready though


all that said, this is the colts, so he may be the best QB to ever play and the colts might fuck that evaluation up

Besides the fact that there is a very slim chance they can still make the playoffs. The FO may still be playing for their jobs. As well as some players. They need to show with competent QB play they can win with this FO

JMO. Pete

Puck 12-25-2025 11:49 PM

Click the link to listen

https://x.com/HolderStephen/status/2...613482194?s=20

Stephen Holder
@HolderStephen
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Dec 24
This is a great explanation of why Philip Rivers can still play at a respectable level at 44.

Relatedly, Colts OC Jim Bob Cooter said today that Philip is recognizing blitzes that even the coaches misread pre-snap. PhD level QB play.

Racehorse 12-27-2025 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 339411)
Besides the fact that there is a very slim chance they can still make the playoffs. The FO may still be playing for their jobs. As well as some players. They need to show with competent QB play they can win with this FO

JMO. Pete

What ever happened to Pete?

omahacolt 12-28-2025 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 339539)
What ever happened to Pete?

he left due to the sand in his vagina

Colts And Orioles 12-28-2025 02:41 PM

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I love the annoyed expression on Uncle Phil's face any time one of his teammates fucks up ...... he's like a 39 year-old Jimmy Connors who made it to the Semi-Finals of the US Open in 1991. Connors would look at the judge incredulously after a bad call, and say, l "I'm 39 years-old working my butt off out here, and you're pulling that nonsense ??? C'mon now, man."

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Indystu2 12-28-2025 02:42 PM

Accountability. Something that this team needs.

Hoopsdoc 12-28-2025 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 339672)
he left due to the sand in his vagina

So like GBB88. Which sucked, he was a good poster.

Lov2fish 12-28-2025 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 339734)
So like GBB88. Which sucked, he was a good poster.

A few good posters have left cause they were soft. Some people are not cutout for this place. Most of us are castoffs from other sites, mostly by our own doing. If everyone left because someone was "Mean" to them this place would be an echo chamber with Puck pissing into a fan. I like that you will get called out for saying stupid shit here. Some people don't handle criticism well.

Thorgrim 12-28-2025 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 339870)
A few good posters have left cause they were soft. Some people are not cutout for this place. Most of us are castoffs from other sites, mostly by our own doing. If everyone left because someone was "Mean" to them this place would be an echo chamber with Puck pissing into a fan. I like that you will get called out for saying stupid shit here. Some people don't handle criticism well.

I for one am grateful for this place because I say a lot of stupid shit.


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