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ChoppedWood 03-20-2022 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 226852)
Oh please. Look at the all pros on the roster and Ballard either traded for them or drafted them

Look at the playoff record of the all pros.

Evaluated on results. Your record is who you are. We are a mediocre football team under Ballard.

Brylok 03-20-2022 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 226856)
Look at the playoff record of the all pros.

Evaluated on results. Your record is who you are. We are a mediocre football team under Ballard.

JAFF is probably a paid representative of the Colts organization. We've all been banned from dotcom (that's why we're here), but they still pay attention to/want fan reaction/opinions. He/she's a podcast and video posting positivity troll account.

Hoopsdoc 03-20-2022 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 226812)
I think that either Pickett or Ridder would be worth a pick. Roll with them this r and if it doesn't work out draft another in 23 when we have a 1st round pick to be able to move up.

Then let one of those two replace Sam as backup if they are better

I'd take Mariota or Winston over Baker for many many reasons but mostly because we don't have to trade any picks

That 3rd or even 2nd round pick isn’t going to get you a quarterback as good as Mayfield. It’s just not.

So what’s the point of protecting that pick when you still have NO ONE at quarterback and that pick isn’t going to get you someone? What’s the benefit?

rm1369 03-20-2022 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 226864)
That 3rd or even 2nd round pick isn’t going to get you a quarterback as good as Mayfield. It’s just not.

So what’s the point of protecting that pick when you still have NO ONE at quarterback and that pick isn’t going to get you someone? What’s the benefit?

Because of the reliance on draft picks to fill EVERY hole on the roster you need that pick for LT, WR, TE, or CB. The argument a few are making is just to sign Mariota or Winston and then use the first next year on your QB. So we are looking at another wasted season to draft a rookie QB (hopefully) who of course you can’t expect to win right away, so in all likelihood you are looking at the 2024 Colts starting to get actually competitive. Just in time for Houston and Jacksonville to also be on the upswing. And people were telling me I how ridiculous I was being in 2018 saying Ballard’s methods will result in an unnecessarily long rebuild.

JAFF 03-20-2022 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 226862)
JAFF is probably a paid representative of the Colts organization. We've all been banned from dotcom (that's why we're here), but they still pay attention to/want fan reaction/opinions. He/she's a podcast and video posting positivity troll account.

The Colts have better things to do than read fan web sites.

YDFL Commish 03-20-2022 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 226787)
He is not a very good QB. He is on a loaded Cleveland team and has had 1 winning season.

He is always at odds with someone.

He is going to cost us draft picks and then have to re negotiate his contract next yr. He will either want paid big or will sign with someone else.

He is not worth anything more than a 3rd rd pick IMO and we will still need to draft a QB either this yr or next. He has a big arm, but is always hurt

Does't seem like it's a race between teams to trade for him. Otherwise he would already be gone. Cleveland has already traded for Brissett to be the backup.

If you want the revolving door at QB to stop then you should not want Baker

Look, I'm a Sooner fan and a baker fan. But I see the flaws in his game. For instance he has a strong tendency to bail to the right whether there is pressure or not.

Defense's takes place advantage of that. I've seen it all from the crotch grab vs Texas to the flag plant vs the Buckeyes and the drunken Baker being chased by the police.

If you guys wanna trade for him that's your business. But, I would wait out the market, because I believe that he will eventually be released.

Brylok 03-20-2022 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 226874)
The Colts have better things to do than read fan web sites.

Another bot response.
Yeah, the fans only buy the tickets and shirts/merch. Screw all of us. So it goes

apballin 03-20-2022 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 226875)
Look, I'm a Sooner fan and a baker fan. But I see the flaws in his game. For instance he has a strong tendency to bail to the right whether there is pressure or not.

Defense's takes place advantage of that. I've seen it all from the crotch grab vs Texas to the flag plant vs the Buckeyes and the drunken Baker being chased by the police.

If you guys wanna trade for him that's your business. But, I would wait out the market, because I believe that he will eventually be released.

So you’d rather have Winston the Uber groper, W eating, crab legs thief

IndyNorm 03-20-2022 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 226852)
Oh please. Look at the all pros on the roster and Ballard either traded for them or drafted them

Yet this supposedly great team couldn't even hit the wide up layup of beating one of the worst teams in the history of the league with a playoff spot on the line, and things have gotten way worse since then. As it stands we have to be the worst team in the league: no legitimate starting NFL QB, LT, WR2, WR3, CB1, and probably CB2 (maybe Ballard's bargain bin guy from LVR will pan out).

Maybe Ballard fixes some of this shit before the start of the season, but I doubt it. In all likelihood all he'll do is follow his process of bringing in a couple of bargain bin FAs and then try to fill all of the holes through the draft where we don't even have a 1st rounder.

IndyNorm 03-20-2022 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 226874)
The Colts have better things to do than read fan web sites.

Like what? Sit on all of that cash that Ballard saves Irsay every single offseason?

YDFL Commish 03-20-2022 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 226881)
So you’d rather have Winston the Uber groper, W eating, crab legs thief

I never said that. He's a POS, that even Arians couldn't fix.

JAFF 03-20-2022 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 226879)
Another bot response.
Yeah, the fans only buy the tickets and shirts/merch. Screw all of us. So it goes

Have you ever talked to a bot

JAFF 03-20-2022 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 226886)
Like what? Sit on all of that cash that Ballard saves Irsay every single offseason?

Yes, thats right. He couldnt fool you.

IndyNorm 03-20-2022 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 226890)
Yes, thats right. He couldnt fool you.

Well it has to go somewhere as it certainly isn't being used to improve the team.

ChaosTheory 03-20-2022 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 226823)
One of his best decisions was following Grigson.

It certainly helps. When you have a direct side-by-side comparison with an actual shit GM (Grigson), it's easier to recognize a superior (not perfect) GM. That along with the Andrew Luck-induced QB debacle we've had to deal with are the two biggest things that really affect most fans' perspectives, in my opinion.

The next would be Bill Polian as the other bread in this sandwich. You can argue he's the greatest GM of all time and we watched him for nearly 15 years. So the fact that Ballard very much follows the Polian school of thought carries some weight.

I looked up this short piece I remember from Polian years ago. I see some of these bold points annoys some fans a lot...

https://www.espnfrontrow.com/2014/03...1-bill-polian/

The 1st and 3rd in particular seem to make certain heads explode.

JAFF 03-20-2022 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 226892)
Well it has to go somewhere as it certainly isn't being used to improve the team.

Did they spend a bunch of money for last years team? Go back and check the numbers. Shit happens, they took a chance on the wrong guy.

Spending money doesnt guarantee anything. See the jaguars

JAFF 03-20-2022 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 226894)
It certainly helps. When you have a direct side-by-side comparison with an actual shit GM (Grigson), it's easier to recognize a superior (not perfect) GM. That along with the Andrew Luck-induced QB debacle we've had to deal with are the two biggest things that really affect most fans' perspectives, in my opinion.

The next would be Bill Polian as the other bread in this sandwich. You can argue he's the greatest GM of all time and we watched him for nearly 15 years. So the fact that Ballard very much follows the Polian school of thought carries some weight.

I looked up this short piece I remember from Polian years ago. I see some of these bold points annoys some fans a lot...

https://www.espnfrontrow.com/2014/03...1-bill-polian/

The 1st and 3rd in particular seem to make certain heads explode.

And fans had the same complaints about Polian. It never changes, fans bitch about the GM even if the win the super bowl. See last years SB winner.

Oldcolt 03-20-2022 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 226896)
And fans had the same complaints about Polian. It never changes, fans bitch about the GM even if the win the super bowl. See last years SB winner.

Exactly. This is what fans do, we second guess and bitch. Why does that seem to bug you? For a whole bunch of us it is part of the joy. I've been supporting this stinking team for over 50 years and have bitched about every owner and gm we have had in that time. None of them even know I exist, it is a storm in a tea pot and I am fully aware of that. Still think Ballard is way to passive in free agency and am pleased I can bitch about it here.

Puck 03-20-2022 11:21 PM

If it costs a draft pick FUCK that

IndyNorm 03-20-2022 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 226895)
Did they spend a bunch of money for last years team? Go back and check the numbers. Shit happens, they took a chance on the wrong guy.

Spending money doesnt guarantee anything. See the jaguars

We hit the cap b/c we extended a bunch of guys after free agency was over. If Ballard was the rock star GM you think he is he would have added pass rush help in FA instead of ignoring it, and if he had then in all likelihood we would have been in the playoffs and possibly would have won the division.

IndyNorm 03-21-2022 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 226899)
Exactly. This is what fans do, we second guess and bitch. Why does that seem to bug you? For a whole bunch of us it is part of the joy. I've been supporting this stinking team for over 50 years and have bitched about every owner and gm we have had in that time. None of them even know I exist, it is a storm in a tea pot and I am fully aware of that. Still think Ballard is way to passive in free agency and am pleased I can bitch about it here.

Because there is no criticizing Ballard, who is easily the best GM in the league and a sure fire Hall of Famer despite the fact that he can't assemble a team that can beat that joke of a team the Jagoffs, ignores team needs every offseason, can't draft a decent pass rusher, has added exactly 1 good receiver in 5 years, hasn't found a replacement at LT despite knowing that 4 years ago the longtime LT would be retiring soon, and has decided to have a throw away year in year 6 of his tenure b/c he couldn't figure out how to add a decent QB with $70M of cap space.

Chaka 03-21-2022 12:24 AM

Man, without free agent signing news, this place seems to be descending into Lord of the Flies chaos.

Here's a bit of news I came across - this guy, apparently a new reporter for the Athletic, is reporting that Tyrann Mathieu has narrowed his choices down to the Colts or the Cowboys, and will be deciding this week:

https://twitter.com/PeteBradshaw_/st...35260364894208

Chromeburn 03-21-2022 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 226905)
Man, without free agent signing news, this place seems to be descending into Lord of the Flies chaos.

Here's a bit of news I came across - this guy, apparently a new reporter for the Athletic, is reporting that Tyrann Mathieu has narrowed his choices down to the Colts or the Cowboys, and will be deciding this week:

https://twitter.com/PeteBradshaw_/st...35260364894208

Twitter is a screaming hot mess of “fire Ballard” chants. This place is tame in comparison.

Saw the honey Badger rumor last week.

JAFF 03-21-2022 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 226906)
Twitter is a screaming hot mess of “fire Ballard” chants. This place is tame in comparison.

Saw the honey Badger rumor last week.

Nothing smart happens on twitter.

Ironshaft 03-21-2022 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 226905)
Man, without free agent signing news, this place seems to be descending into Lord of the Flies chaos.

You can say THAT again! :)

I have not seen this level of whining since the last time my kids had a birthday party when they were 4 years old!!

Although, to be fair, nothing we say on here will make one single lick of difference to what the Colts organization does so it is all in good fun.

Some folks might have mental breakdowns over it but those can be good fun if your an outside observer! :)

rm1369 03-21-2022 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 226918)
You can say THAT again! :)

I have not seen this level of whining since the last time my kids had a birthday party when they were 4 years old!!

Although, to be fair, nothing we say on here will make one single lick of difference to what the Colts organization does so it is all in good fun.

Some folks might have mental breakdowns over it but those can be good fun if your an outside observer! :)

Continue Ballard’s plan (and the results) for two more years and all the “whining” will stop. It worked wonders for the Pacers.

Hoopsdoc 03-21-2022 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 226904)
Because there is no criticizing Ballard, who is easily the best GM in the league and a sure fire Hall of Famer despite the fact that he can't assemble a team that can beat that joke of a team the Jagoffs, ignores team needs every offseason, can't draft a decent pass rusher, has added exactly 1 good receiver in 5 years, hasn't found a replacement at LT despite knowing that 4 years ago the longtime LT would be retiring soon, and has decided to have a throw away year in year 6 of his tenure b/c he couldn't figure out how to add a decent QB with $70M of cap space.

I don’t think Ballard is perfect. Far from it.

I do think he’s one of the better GM’s in the league though, if for no other reason than his draft prowess.

rm1369 03-21-2022 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 226925)
I don’t think Ballard is perfect. Far from it.

I do think he’s one of the better GM’s in the league though, if for no other reason than his draft prowess.

I don’t want him fired for that reason. But ultimately, how much does it matter if he doesn’t win? He’s great at drafting but so far he sucks at constructing a roster.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 03-21-2022 04:18 PM

Zach Pascal to the Eagles on a 1 year deal per Schefter.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...90179827425281

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Eagles reached agreement on a one-year agreement with former Colts’ WR Zach Pascal, per source. Pascal now reunites with Eagles’ HC Nick Sirianni.

Dam8610 03-21-2022 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 226905)
Man, without free agent signing news, this place seems to be descending into Lord of the Flies chaos.

Here's a bit of news I came across - this guy, apparently a new reporter for the Athletic, is reporting that Tyrann Mathieu has narrowed his choices down to the Colts or the Cowboys, and will be deciding this week:

https://twitter.com/PeteBradshaw_/st...35260364894208

That would be a huge get.

Chromeburn 03-21-2022 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 226914)
Nothing smart happens on twitter.

It’s good for hearing news fast. But colts Twitter is scarily ignorant of football knowledge and super reactionary/impatient.

smitty46953 03-21-2022 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 226905)
Man, without free agent signing news, this place seems to be descending into Lord of the Flies chaos.

Here's a bit of news I came across - this guy, apparently a new reporter for the Athletic, is reporting that Tyrann Mathieu has narrowed his choices down to the Colts or the Cowboys, and will be deciding this week:

https://twitter.com/PeteBradshaw_/st...35260364894208

Perhaps that just narrowed a bit? Cowboys re-signed Kearse. :cool:

Cowboys re-signed S Jayron Kearse to a two-year, $10 million contract.
https://www.nbcsportsedge.com/footba...dallas-cowboys

apballin 03-21-2022 06:45 PM

Come on Ballard make it happen!!!

Hoopsdoc 03-21-2022 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 226905)
Man, without free agent signing news, this place seems to be descending into Lord of the Flies chaos.

Here's a bit of news I came across - this guy, apparently a new reporter for the Athletic, is reporting that Tyrann Mathieu has narrowed his choices down to the Colts or the Cowboys, and will be deciding this week:

https://twitter.com/PeteBradshaw_/st...35260364894208

Wait a minute, why do we need Mathieu? We have 2 decent, much cheaper safeties. He doesn’t play cornerback, does he?

Dam8610 03-21-2022 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 227071)
Wait a minute, why do we need Mathieu? We have 2 decent, much cheaper safeties. He doesn’t play cornerback, does he?

If you get a chance to sign a playmaker like Mathieu you take it. He's a clear upgrade over Willis.

YDFL Commish 03-21-2022 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 227083)
If you get a chance to sign a playmaker like Mathieu you take it. He's a clear upgrade over Willis.

Safety is the least of our concerns LT and WR have to be the priorities from here on out.

ChoppedWood 03-21-2022 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 227071)
Wait a minute, why do we need Mathieu? We have 2 decent, much cheaper safeties. He doesn’t play cornerback, does he?

It's the Colts and it is the safety position- sign him, for that matter sign every safety left in FA- it still won't be enough.

No idea why but when you talk Colts and the insane level of injuries- you start here. Goes back to Bob, we are never healthy at this position.

Racehorse 03-21-2022 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 227071)
Wait a minute, why do we need Mathieu? We have 2 decent, much cheaper safeties. He doesn’t play cornerback, does he?

Bradley likes to play three safeties in cover 3.

smitty46953 03-21-2022 07:27 PM

Tonyan back with Packers' Hoped we might get him :rolleyes:


Tom Silverstein
@TomSilverstein
The one-year deal #Packers TE Robert Tonyan received is worth $3.7M and includes $1.75M in incentives, according to a source. The #Packers had to pay because at least three other teams were interested in signing him despite coming off a torn ACL. Says what people think of him.

Discflinger 03-21-2022 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 227085)
Safety is the least of our concerns LT and WR have to be the priorities from here on out.

Whatever we don’t get in FA, let’s get in the draft. In Ballard I trust.


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