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1965southpaw 10-09-2017 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 32813)
That's FAR from the only reason Pagano is a horrible head coach. There are many, many reasons.

Here Jesus, let me help you write that list.....:cool:

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2017/10...e-away?ref=yfp

kitekrazy 10-09-2017 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 32774)
I've thought for a couple years now that the team is under-performing it's talent level, even with some of the roster deficiencies that are well known.
There is just no discipline or accountability. Even among the better players on the roster, they are wildly inconsistent. This includes even Luck. I think a huge part of his development has been screwed up by Pagano.
He's never learned to read and react to NFL defenses like Manning, but that's because he's never had a coach who could teach him that, because all his coaches have sucked.

They call those player coaches.

daedge 10-09-2017 09:18 PM

There is nothing worse than watching Pagano's post-win speeches to the team. You can only cringe the entire way through.

Colts And Orioles 10-10-2017 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by daedge (Post 32885)


There is nothing worse than watching Pagano's post-win speeches to the team. You can only cringe the entire way through.


o


As nauseating as that may be, it always beats the alternative (the Colts losing a game.)


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nate505 10-10-2017 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kray007 (Post 32787)
Every special teams coach has half a dozen, or so, gadget plays up his sleeve. I have no problem with trotting one out in a game vs the 49'ers.

I could go with that theory if the Colts were significantly better than the 9ers and would have won the game by 20+ points.

Since they aren't, that move could have been an abject and total disaster, for no real gain whatsoever.

nate505 10-10-2017 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 32848)
As far as I'm concerned, it's a done deal, and I'm tired of talking about it.

Is it?

It should be, and it should be an absolute and total complete no-brainer.

That was the case last year too, and look who's still the coach.

FatDT 10-12-2017 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 33088)
Is it?

It should be, and it should be an absolute and total complete no-brainer.

That was the case last year too, and look who's still the coach.

It was the case two years ago.

Hoopsdoc 10-12-2017 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 32854)
you are right

there is zero leadership on this team. i agree with that completely

I'll never forget Peyton pissing off the whole team in the week before the super bowl by not letting wives or girlfriends near the players. He wanted everyone focused only on football. He could be a giant asshole sometimes but he was also a great great leader.

This team sorely needs someone like that.

GoBigBlue88 10-13-2017 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 33343)
I'll never forget Peyton pissing off the whole team in the week before the super bowl by not letting wives or girlfriends near the players. He wanted everyone focused only on football. He could be a giant asshole sometimes but he was also a great great leader.

This team sorely needs someone like that.

I was just thinking about that in the week all his former teammates were talking about him leading up to the statue. Dude was a GIGANTIC asshole. And you know what? It's the reason the Colts are still in Indy, and Indy is the city it is right now.

He created a culture you had to be totally bought into. I think when you have hardasses like like Manning, and at CFB guys like Saban, it creates a culture where you have to be mentally tough just to make it through a practice. So when it comes to the game, that's just another rep for you.

I have no idea what Andrew Luck is like behind the scenes -- I have a feeling it's misrepresented a bit -- but he needs to have some of those Peyton qualities in him as he continues his career.

DrSpaceman 10-13-2017 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 33483)
I was just thinking about that in the week all his former teammates were talking about him leading up to the statue. Dude was a GIGANTIC asshole. And you know what? It's the reason the Colts are still in Indy, and Indy is the city it is right now.

He created a culture you had to be totally bought into. I think when you have hardasses like like Manning, and at CFB guys like Saban, it creates a culture where you have to be mentally tough just to make it through a practice. So when it comes to the game, that's just another rep for you.

I have no idea what Andrew Luck is like behind the scenes -- I have a feeling it's misrepresented a bit -- but he needs to have some of those Peyton qualities in him as he continues his career.

As much as players get crap for it when they do it, best thing Luck could do is tell Irsay, Pagano needs to go or I do next season, if it comes to that.


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