Anyone else heard this or believe it?

Josina Anderson: Poe had a 5 years 60M offer from the Colts (link: http://dlvr.it/NfD0vp) dlvr.it/NfD0vp #reddit #nfl

No idea who she is but would he really reject that offer if true?

Sounds plausible

That is the only place I heard it.

Only way you turn that down is if the guarantees were bad.

Or if he wasn't interested in playing here.

True

One year $8 million for the Falcons.

He was never coming here.

Why would he ? If we're being honest about the Colt's, they have a roster that's mediocre at best, a head coach that can't get out of his own way and probably is gone at the end of this year, and is years away from contending for a championship. Lets face the reality here, this team as presently constructed, without Luck, is a last place team, but that's JMO.

Jason La Canfora‏Verified account @JasonLaCanfora · 29m29 minutes ago

DB Darius Butler plans to re-sign with the Colts on a one-year deal today

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Stephen Holder‏Verified account @HolderStephen · 42s43 seconds ago
This is a 1-year deal for $3 million. Could max out at $4.5 million w incentives, according to NFL source. #Colts

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Great news. One year deal makes perfect sense.

If the resigning of Butler is true, then that is a good thing in the short term....but doesn't change much in terms of the future and needing to draft some defensive backs.

I have a feeling that the Colts have now decided that they are happy enough with the OLB's.....not sure i agree with that myself, but i do think that in this draft we can try to focus on ILB and corners.

I have zero idea what Ballard's mindset is on any of our position depth charts are other than we don't have many playmakers on that side of the ball.

However, what it appears to me that he has done is add bodies to bring as many position groups up to "stabilized" as possible. NT, DE, OLB, S have all had bodies added that should allow them to function at stable or average if not good or great.

CB and ILB are the gaping holes in the depth charts so I agree that those spots will still receive attention.

I am not convinced that we will still not be signing a veteran ILB to the roster. I think teams now are just waiting for another one to be signed before jumping on the rest because they think that every day longer drops the price just a little more.

If we can sign a veteran ILB, then we are pretty much set to pick defensive BPA with our top four picks as long as one of the top three ends up being CB.

Add some combo of defense, TE, RB or O-Linemen with our other 2 picks in the 4th round and use our 5th round pick for one of the lower round NTs to backup Woods/Parry at that spot and it will have been a good offseason.

Cheers,

Am I the only one on here who reads what we are doing right now and thinking all of the posts sound just like they did when we got rid of Polian? Lots of holes to fill, short term guys signed as a stop-gap measure until the drafted guys develop...

Yes. The new GM is rebuilding a broken roster. Hopefully Ballard does a better job.

Those moves led to three straight 11 win seasons. Where Grigson failed was drafting the premium players to push the roster to the next level (and striking out miserably on the big ticket UFAs he went for in 2013-2015).

Ballard is laying a foundation, but it too will fail if he sucks at drafting. I don't think he will based on his track record, but we'll see.

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner!

I agree 100% with this post and it was worded much better than I would have.

Free agency brings short term stability. Long term success is through the draft.

I think Ballard has brought short term stability and if he can sign one of the ILBs, his work will be done prior to the draft, I think.

It is him finding studs in the draft that will lead to long term success; not signing veteran free agents.

Cheers,

First good news I've heard today.

Free agent Kamar Aiken will visit the Colts on Friday. He'll also meet with the Seahawks on Monday.

:cool:

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7097/kamar-aiken

everyone agrees but there is no rule saying you can't improve your team on free agency.

That's a good idea if the money is right. Won't have to use a draft pick on a WR.

We don't have to use a draft pick on a wr regardless

I like what I see.

Anyone know why he was a full time starter in 2015 and then only became a part time starter in 2016? He has targets in every game in 2016 so he was active and on the field but no longer a starter.

More competition for Dorsett, Rogers and perhaps Moncrief to keep developing. I like it.

Cheers,

I am with you on all of that. I just had a very strong sense of deja vu going on in this thread. I hope Ballard is not Grigson 2.0.

I wonder how the free agent visit of NT John Jenkins is going? He is an actual 350 pound "true" 3-4 NT that would be good rotation with Al Woods to stabilize the position.

Interesting theme that I have seen run through Ballard's free agent signings or visits:

Former 1st round draft choice = Mingo
Former 2nd round draft choice = Sheard, Woods, Hunt, Kevin Minter (not signed)
Former 3rd round draft choice = John Jenkins (not signed)
Former 4th round draft choice = Simon, Schwenke

Its not like we are bringing in street free agents whom have not started many NFL games. Ballard is bringing in depth guys who had the athleticism to be drafted in the first 4 rounds of the draft in their year but who have underperformed during their rookie contracts.

The exception to that rule has been either re-signing our own (Doyle, Turbin, Butler), Special Teams (Locke - 5th round), and now WR Kamar Aiken who entered the league as a UDFA but who worked himself into a starting role in 2015.

Just an interesting connection point to the free agents. These are not "depth" free agent signings on par with signing the McNary's, Kerr's, Harrison's or Melton's of the world. These guys actually had talent or skills that they have not yet (or perhaps never will) unlock.

Cheers,

I dont even know why he is looking for a WR unless he is planning to trade Dorsett. If you look at the mocks there are a few teams like the Bills that may take a WR so maybe we could move up trading away Dorsett.

Steve smith was hurt. Also I think Perriman came back right?

The problem is that Dorsett has shown almost nothing in his time in the NFL to be worth much as trade bait.

50 targets per year, 25 receptions per year, 375 yards per year and 3 TDs total is not much to get other teams excited about his potential.

As an example, we got a 4th round pick for Allen AND had to give a 6th round pick as well. We did get cap relief in the deal but, overall, according to the "draft trade value chart," the 4th we got was worth 38 points and the 6th we gave away was worth 11 points for a "net" of 27 points for Allen equivalent to high 5th round draft choice.

BUF is picking #10 overall. To move from #15 to #10, it would take 250 points. Dwayne Allen only delivered 27 points...we need 9x that to make that trade.

Granted, if I am BUF and I see that I can trade one pick away (that I might have used on WR) to pick up a 3rd year former 1st round choice WR AND still have the #15 overall pick to use on a different position (or pick another WR), then perhaps I do that and I don't care about the "value."

But it takes ALOT to move up into the top ten of the NFL draft. Dorsett does not have that much value, I think.

Cheers,

Dorsett doesn't have much value at all. He's had Andrew fricken Luck as his QB and still hasn't been worth a shit. Another Grigson screw up.

He also has a bad OC calling plays for him

Richard Sherman anyone? I dont think he fits what we attempt to do

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/...qdM?li=BBnba9I

Isn't Aiken a KR guy, too? Maybe Quan Bray isn't long for the team.

This morning on the radio, not sure which station, they were saying if the Saints trade their 1st Round pick to the Patriots for Malcolm Butler, then expect the Patriots to then trade the pick for Sherman.

I agree with this, too. It isn't an either-or option. That being said, I think it's perfectly reasonable to not go crazy in 2017 UFA as you transition your roster, front office, and coaching staff. Ballard can lay the foundation now and then swing for the fences next offseason once he has his coach and scouts in place.

Dorsett isn't a good receiver. It doesn't matter what the play calls were.

Bigger possession receiver. They need another one. They need a guy to back up Moncrief.

I say let's see him this year. I am not sure his book is written yet

rogers

Oh heck yes!

Sherman is a man-to-man stud who is not afraid to line up across from anyone and stay with them until the play is done.

Played in every game over his entire 6 season career and has started all of them since game 7 of his rookie year.

97 Passes Defended in 6 years. Average of 5 INTs per year and a really good run support tackler.

He is Vontae Davis....only 1 year younger. Would it not be great to have two of them?

A really nice page isolating him on some of his better plays from 2013 (located here).

Another one from 2014 that is more fact and data driven (located here).

Now, contracts.

Vontae is only signed through 2017 and is a free agent at the end of the season. He is our CB1 and would probably expect a top dollar offer from Ballard to remain here.

Sherman would cost the Colts $11.431m of cap space in 2017 and $11.000m in 2018. He would be great insurance against "needing" to overpay Vontae to stay. Those cap hits are not terrible when compared to what other top CBs are getting.

The rub comes down to what the Seahawks would want in return. I would pay a 3rd round pick in a heartbeat for him. I would think hard about paying our 2nd round pick since there was a solid chance we were going to use one of our 1st or 2nd round picks on CB anyway.

I would not trade our 1st round pick for him nor would I send multiple picks unless it was our 3rd round and one of our bottom 4th round picks.

Sherman would make our entire defense better. Add a OLB[RUSH] and ILB in the top rounds of the draft and our defensive makeover would be well underway.

Cheers,

His game speed is much slower than his 40. Doesn't create enough separation. Doesn't run crisp enough routes. Doesn't always catch cleanly. Doesn't attack the ball aggressively.

If there was anything special there, we would have seen it by now. I don't care what routes he's been running.

I would do that. 3rd or 3rd and 5th.