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Wyatt 03-16-2017 12:50 PM

@ProFootballTalk
Per source, Dontari Poe agrees to terms with Falcons.

WELL FUCK

smitty46953 03-16-2017 12:50 PM

Adam Schefter‏Verified account
@AdamSchefter

Falcons have agreed to terms with Dontari Poe, per source.


:cool:

smitty46953 03-16-2017 12:51 PM

Now go get Hankins !!! :cool:

sherck 03-16-2017 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 6909)
#Falcons are signing former #Chiefs first round pick DT Dontari Poe, per @ProFootballTalk

:cool:

They were dumb play calling away from winning the SB in Jan (run the ball 3 fricking times and then kick the FG to go up by two scores, dummies). Why not sign with a team that has SB aspirations again this year?

Cheers,

Wyatt 03-16-2017 12:55 PM

@AdamSchefter 21s21 seconds ago
Falcons gave former Chiefs' DT Dontari Poe a one-year, $8 million deal that could increase to $10M with incentives, per source.

Luck4Reich 03-16-2017 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 6914)
They were dumb play calling away from winning the SB in Jan (run the ball 3 fricking times and then kick the FG to go up by two scores, dummies). Why not sign with a team that has SB aspirations again this year?

Cheers,

Only 14% on Suberbowl losers made it back the next year and that percentage was helped by the Buffalo Bills.

Coltsalr 03-16-2017 01:06 PM

$8M for one year was too rich for our blood? The fuck, Ballard?

sherck 03-16-2017 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 6915)
@AdamSchefter 21s21 seconds ago
Falcons gave former Chiefs' DT Dontari Poe a one-year, $8 million deal that could increase to $10M with incentives, per source.

I am honestly glad that we did not sign him to terms like that.

We are not one year away from being competitive. We are more like 2 or 3 years away from having a good defense.

I would rather sign "NFL average" guys now like Woods, Hunt and Mingo for modest contracts while biding my time to nab good players (Sheard, Simon) and difference makers (1-15 pass rusher?) in the draft and free agency.

In 2 or 3 years when we are ready to compete? Yeah, that is the time to splurge on big contracts.

But now? Keep filling the roster with "competition" so that we can at least get to the middle of the pack defense.

Chees,

Wyatt 03-16-2017 01:11 PM

I hear Tom Crean is a free agent now, maybe we could plug him in at NT, or better yet, HC

FatDT 03-16-2017 01:32 PM

I kinda wanted Poe. I think our defense is going to suck again. But I don't have high hopes for this season anyway. So outside of not getting Zeitler or Warford I don't care that much that we didn't sign any "big" names. I use that term loosely because FA was kind of garbage this year. Hopefully we have a good draft and bring in a few actual playmakers/future playmakers.

smitty46953 03-16-2017 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 6923)
I hear Tom Crean is a free agent now, maybe we could plug him in at NT, or better yet, HC

You have lost your mind ... two clappers on the sidelines ??? :cool:

Racehorse 03-16-2017 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 6879)
You're the first person that im aware of who has pointed out Hankins has gotten fat.

Takes one to know one situation?

rcubed 03-16-2017 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 6922)
I am honestly glad that we did not sign him to terms like that.

We are not one year away from being competitive. We are more like 2 or 3 years away from having a good defense.

I would rather sign "NFL average" guys now like Woods, Hunt and Mingo for modest contracts while biding my time to nab good players (Sheard, Simon) and difference makers (1-15 pass rusher?) in the draft and free agency.

In 2 or 3 years when we are ready to compete? Yeah, that is the time to splurge on big contracts.

But now? Keep filling the roster with "competition" so that we can at least get to the middle of the pack defense.

Chees,

I agree in general. One year contracts are not where we are at. That's for a last push to get over the hump. Signing the average guys to build a foundation is a good start, but it would have been nice to land a bouye or hightower in FA. Hopefully we draft well given how deep this year is supposed to be.

sherck 03-16-2017 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 6929)
I agree in general. One year contracts are not where we are at. That's for a last push to get over the hump. Signing the average guys to build a foundation is a good start, but it would have been nice to land a bouye or hightower in FA. Hopefully we draft well given how deep this year is supposed to be.

That is what I am hoping for.

I hope that the defensive talent it deep enough that we can, with our six picks in the first four rounds, get 4 or 5 guys that become starters or quality depth guys in the next 2-3 years.

Sort of like we drafted 3 offensive linemen in 2016 that might end up being starts in 2017.

2 drafts like that in 2017 and 2018 along with solid free agent signings will get our defense into the top half of the league.

And with our offense, that is really all we need in the short term.

Cheers,

Dam8610 03-16-2017 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 6929)
I agree in general. One year contracts are not where we are at. That's for a last push to get over the hump. Signing the average guys to build a foundation is a good start, but it would have been nice to land a bouye or hightower in FA. Hopefully we draft well given how deep this year is supposed to be.

I think getting Zach Brown or Gerald Hodges would elevate the overall talent level of the ILB position and the LB corps in general.

sherck 03-16-2017 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 6933)
I think getting Zach Brown or Gerald Hodges would elevate the overall talent level of the ILB position and the LB corps in general.

That is the signing that I am waiting on.

Brown, Hodges or Minter (along with bringing Butler back) would round out what I think we will be doing in free agency prior to the draft.

Not that I think we signed world-beaters at any position but:

NT Addressed = Woods upgrading Kerr in the NT rotation
DE Addressed = Hunt adding to the mix of Anderson, Langford, Jones, Ridgeway and McGill
OLB[EDGE] Addressed = Simon upgrading on Walden
OLB[RUSH] Addressed = Sheard, Mingo upgrading on Mathis, Cole
ILB Addressed = No
CB Addressed = Not really but re-signing Butler will help
Safety Addressed = Again, no but re-signing Butler will help
O-Line addressed = Schwenke replacing Harrison as primary depth pushing for starting at RG
Punter addressed = Locke

Of our needs, ILB and CB are wide, gaping holes that need veteran talent thrown at it to stabilize them.

Brown / Hodges / Minter do that at ILB

Butler does that at CB (and Safety)

Get it done, Ballard!

Cheers,

njcoltfan 03-16-2017 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 6935)
That is the signing that I am waiting on.

Brown, Hodges or Minter (along with bringing Butler back) would round out what I think we will be doing in free agency prior to the draft.

Not that I think we signed world-beaters at any position but:

NT Addressed = Woods upgrading Kerr in the NT rotation
DE Addressed = Hunt adding to the mix of Anderson, Langford, Jones, Ridgeway and McGill
OLB[EDGE] Addressed = Simon upgrading on Walden
OLB[RUSH] Addressed = Sheard, Mingo upgrading on Mathis, Cole
ILB Addressed = No
CB Addressed = Not really but re-signing Butler will help
Safety Addressed = Again, no but re-signing Butler will help
O-Line addressed = Schwenke replacing Harrison as primary depth pushing for starting at RG
Punter addressed = Locke

Of our needs, ILB and CB are wide, gaping holes that need veteran talent thrown at it to stabilize them.

Brown / Hodges / Minter do that at ILB

Butler does that at CB (and Safety)

Get it done, Ballard!

Cheers,

You keep asking Ballard to " get it done ", I don't think he's listening. I want him to get Hankins signed, again he's not listening.

Wyatt 03-16-2017 03:42 PM

@JordanRaanan
Reached out to sources around league and found that DT Johnathan Hankins is asking for A LOT of money. A lot as in more than $10M per year.

smitty46953 03-16-2017 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 6946)
@JordanRaanan
Reached out to sources around league and found that DT Johnathan Hankins is asking for A LOT of money. A lot as in more than $10M per year.

Ouch !!! :cool:

njcoltfan 03-16-2017 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 6946)
@JordanRaanan
Reached out to sources around league and found that DT Johnathan Hankins is asking for A LOT of money. A lot as in more than $10M per year.

So, he's only 24 and, if I'm not mistaken, had 8 sacks last year, and he's healthy. It's not like the Colts don't have the money.

FatDT 03-16-2017 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 6948)
So, he's only 24 and, if I'm not mistaken, had 8 sacks last year, and he's healthy. It's not like the Colts don't have the money.

On the contrary, he had 3 sacks and missed 7 games in 2015 with a torn pectoral. He did play all of 2016.

I dunno. I wouldn't pay him $10+ million. Brandon Williams was the best FA NT available and didn't get $10 mil/year.

Brylok 03-16-2017 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuck4Chuck (Post 6916)
Only 14% on Suberbowl losers made it back the next year and that percentage was helped by the Buffalo Bills.

And the Falcons lost in perhaps the biggest choke-job of all time. Historic losers. They won't sniff a Super Bowl this year.

natagu23 03-16-2017 04:25 PM

Watch a little bit of the guy's tape. NTs who can stack and shed and make a tackle are hard to come by. Ask Grigson.

There is no f**king chess being played here when you're leaving key positions unfilled. Sign the guy and move on down the checklist.

F**k.

Brylok 03-16-2017 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 6886)
Jason La Canfora‏Verified account @JasonLaCanfora · 27s28 seconds ago
Veteran DB Darius Butler has another round of visits scheduled, starting with Washington today. Colts want him back. Visited CHI already

:cool:

Butler must be trying to force the Colts to pay up. Why would anyone go to Washington? Their culture is the worst in the NFL. Complete grease fire. Worse than the Browns.

smitty46953 03-16-2017 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 6957)
Butler must be trying to force the Colts to pay up. Why would anyone go to Washington? Their culture is the worst in the NFL. Complete grease fire. Worse than the Browns.

Can't blame him, we left him hanging. We should have re-signed him before the free agency period started... :cool:

omahacolt 03-16-2017 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 6957)
Butler must be trying to force the Colts to pay up. Why would anyone go to Washington? Their culture is the worst in the NFL. Complete grease fire. Worse than the Browns.

manusky is the dc there isn't he?

Brylok 03-16-2017 05:17 PM

He is. Apparently he got promoted in January. I was mainly referring to the owner and front office. Absolutely toxic environment from Snyder on down.

Puck 03-16-2017 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 6965)
manusky is the dc there isn't he?


http://bfy.tw/Ag58

omahacolt 03-16-2017 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 6968)
He is. Apparently he got promoted in January. I was mainly referring to the owner and front office. Absolutely toxic environment from Snyder on down.

an extra million dollars sure makes that shit not so toxic now doesn't it

njcoltfan 03-16-2017 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 6949)
On the contrary, he had 3 sacks and missed 7 games in 2015 with a torn pectoral. He did play all of 2016.

I dunno. I wouldn't pay him $10+ million. Brandon Williams was the best FA NT available and didn't get $10 mil/year.

Sorry, my bad, I was looking at his 2014 stats and was even wrong with those as he only had 7 sacks. I still would sign him, he could anchor the defense for years to come.

YDFL Commish 03-16-2017 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 6956)
Watch a little bit of the guy's tape. NTs who can stack and shed and make a tackle are hard to come by. Ask Grigson.

There is no f**king chess being played here when you're leaving key positions unfilled. Sign the guy and move on down the checklist.

F**k.

You don't pay the guy so much more than the market deems he's worth, you just don't.

When you do, it bites you in the ass and you end up cutting the player in 1-2 yrs.

So why do a short term rental on a 24 yr. old player? Those are the guys, that ideally you want to sign long term.

natagu23 03-16-2017 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 7004)
You don't pay the guy so much more than the market deems he's worth, you just don't.

When you do, it bites you in the ass and you end up cutting the player in 1-2 yrs.

So why do a short term rental on a 24 yr. old player? Those are the guys, that ideally you want to sign long term.

I get what you're saying but its free-agency.

Every other decent player gets overpaid. We track it every year where an entire position market gets inflated.

My point is, get the player. Yes try the bring the price down, but get the player.

There are no good NTs in the draft.

natagu23 03-16-2017 08:57 PM

Its been how long since we've been trying to get a true NT to make this whole 34 sh*t work?

Yes, its been half a f**king decade.

Im tired of it.

Its either you get the pieces to fit your scheme or change to a different one.

rcubed 03-16-2017 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 7030)
Its been how long since we've been trying to get a true NT to make this whole 34 sh*t work?

Yes, its been half a f**king decade.

Im tired of it.

Its either you get the pieces to fit your scheme or change to a different one.

clapper dont change schemes

natagu23 03-16-2017 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 7033)
clapper dont change schemes

How is this guy a HC let alone still coaching this team?

Anyway, Im not a fan of the this 34 hybrid.

It's not as forgiving as the 4-3 when the majority of your defense is mediocre.

Brylok 03-16-2017 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 6978)
an extra million dollars sure makes that shit not so toxic now doesn't it

Probably depends on specific player's motivations. Their own starting QB wants to escape but will apparently be franchise tagged. Bottom feeders like Cleveland and JAX are just enept/poorly run. The Redskins are a toxic environment.

VeveJones007 03-16-2017 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 7030)
Its been how long since we've been trying to get a true NT to make this whole 34 sh*t work?

Yes, its been half a f**king decade.

Im tired of it.

Its either you get the pieces to fit your scheme or change to a different one.

Umm...interior DL has been an issue even longer than that. DT/NT for the Colts franchise is like the Browns and QBs.

rcubed 03-16-2017 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 7038)
How is this guy a HC let alone still coaching this team?

Anyway, Im not a fan of the this 34 hybrid.

It's not as forgiving as the 4-3 when the majority of your defense is mediocre.

How did get past the interview, he can barely speak intelligently.
How did he get an extension?
How did he survive a front office change?

Mysteries we my never solve...

natagu23 03-17-2017 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 7048)
How did get past the interview, he can barely speak intelligently.
How did he get an extension?
How did he survive a front office change?

Mysteries we my never solve...

Where's Robert Stack when you need him

VeveJones007 03-17-2017 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 7048)
How did get past the interview, he can barely speak intelligently.
How did he get an extension?
How did he survive a front office change?

Mysteries we my never solve...

Part of me still doesn't get why Irsay canned Grigson so late. The only thing that really makes sense is that Irsay had a deal ready with Peyton, PM wanted a new GM, and it was too late for a HC search and for that HC to assemble a quality staff.

Under that scenario, it would take a few months until PM was formally in the position. Then, he and the GM could evaluate the HC during the 2017 season and lay the groundwork for bringing in a new coach and staff.

That, or Irsay is just irrational...which is Occam's razor here.


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