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Big Smooth 03-17-2020 12:07 PM

We really taking these next two years and trying to get a SB? Buckner move. Two years for Costanza. Two year deal to Rivers? I'm not sold this is a window we can fit through. Especially with the 49ers, Chiefs and Ravens looking like beasts. I'm more of a build it through the draft guy and supplement through free agency and this is the opposite. I'm looking forward to the production that these guys bring but it just feels like we will be just good enough to miss the SB and have a garbage draft position. Like always. But screw it. Frankenstein this bitch together with free agents and take a run at it. I will say we need a QB developing during this time though.

All that being said the next two years should be entertaining. Not just for the Colts but league wide. With so much craziness all around I can't wait for Sept.

Also, Fuck Andrew Luck.

Brylok 03-17-2020 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 156504)
Gruden is an idiot. Carr is 10 times the QB Mariota is. I would take Carr in a heartbeat.

Colts need to at least inquire about Carr. He'd be my choice too. Hell, the Panthers are letting Can Newton test the market. I'd take Cam over the likes of Dalton, Mariota, Brissett, etc.

Brylok 03-17-2020 12:34 PM

I should read the entire thread before posting...

DragonTails 03-17-2020 01:30 PM

Rivers is going to be a complete disaster for this team.

He is too old and a complete statue in the pocket with a noodle arm. He will have more ints than tds guaranteed.

Lets not forget the current QB was 5-2 and 16/4 when the WR/TEs were healthy. I'd rather roll with him and spend money else where if we are not drafting a QB.

Puck 03-17-2020 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonTails (Post 156527)
Rivers is going to be a complete disaster for this team.

He is too old and a complete statue in the pocket with a noodle arm. He will have more ints than tds guaranteed.

Lets not forget the current QB was 5-2 and 16/4 when the WR/TEs were healthy. I'd rather roll with him and spend money else where if we are not drafting a QB.


Guaranteed??? Give me some reasons for this prediction

rm1369 03-17-2020 02:00 PM

Any guess on what it would take to acquire Carr? Would you give up #34 if necessary? I think I would.

JAFF 03-17-2020 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 156472)
I think GBB gave up for some reason, cant remember exactly what it was.

sherck was good but got all butt-hurt, I think someone (wont say any names) kept on him about god and some shit so he bolted.

sometimes the dumbassery in a fan forum gets old

JAFF 03-17-2020 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 156497)
Yeah, he was pissed when some of us were ripping Luck a new ass because he quit. Maybe he didn't quite get the fact that it was like a gut punch and we needed to vent. Having said that, Luck did what he thought was best for him, and I can't blame him for that. I just hate the fact that we had a true franchise QB and then poof, he was gone. Now if we have an Andy Dalton and he quit, I wouldn't have given a shit.

Well, yeah. That's like getting pissed your Chevy Impala didn't age as well as a Mercedes

JAFF 03-17-2020 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 156511)
I should read the entire thread before posting...

Why? Nobody else does? Killing me Smalls

Chromeburn 03-17-2020 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 156449)
Yes, Omahacolt is still here, nice description "Nailed It" :cool:

AKA Mike Doss, former Colt safety

Chromeburn 03-17-2020 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by indcolts18288 (Post 156436)
Ok so I promise to finally start posting here again. I admit I got caught up on the Facebook groups out of convenience but thank you Tapatalk lol. So obviously after the trade yesterday that takes us completely out of the Herbert and Love situation. I’m probably one of the few who are ok with riding Jacoby one more season and seeing what he can do with help and health. Now I’m wondering if Ballard might take a WR at 34 and a guy like Eason at 44 or vice versa. He’s an immobile gunslinger but so is Rivers. If we sign Rivers I will be PISSED. If you had to guess, what’s Ballard’s next move? Seriously, he reminds me of Polian but with balls.
Jmo,
Pete [emoji23]
Is Pete still here? What about Mr. Sarcasm? What’s his name?! Why can’t I remember?!


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No thank you to Jacoby. I have seen enough. He has been here three years and started two seasons. I think that is enough time to see what he is like. The last half of the season was awful.

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Originally Posted by indcolts18288 (Post 156480)
I do NOT like Hurts at all and pretty sure Ballard and Reich don’t either. According to stampede blue Ballard and Reich both said the kid has talent but is inaccurate. Then went on to say “there’s a lot of things you can teach a young QB, accuracy is not one of them”
FWIW


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If that is the highest priority, should try to trade up for Burrow.

JAFF 03-17-2020 03:11 PM

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/p...ff-the-market/

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The Indianapolis Colts are finalizing a deal with Philip Rivers to be their next quarterback, per CBS Sports NFL Insider Jason La Canfora. Indianapolis has been linked to Rivers for some time and the 38-year old quarterback has found his new home.

Rivers would be reunited with Colts offensive coordinator Nick Sirianni, who spent five seasons as an offensive assistant with the Los Angeles Chargers, who Rivers played for from 2004 to 2019. Colts coach Frank Reich was the offensive coordinator for two seasons with the Chargers, spending three total years with Rivers in San Diego.

Reich was the Chargers' quarterbacks coach in 2013, when Rivers led the NFL by completing 69.5% of his passes, the highest completion percentage of his career. Along with throwing for 4,478 yards and 32 touchdowns that season, Rivers also took care of the football, throwing just 11 interceptions while earning Pro Bowl honors.

Rivers will join a Colts team that faded down the stretch last season, going 2-7 in their last nine games. The past five games were particularly bad for the Colts defense, as they gave up 30-plus points in four of the last five games, allowing 29.4 points per game during the stretch.

Part of the Colts struggles were also on Jacoby Brissett, who started 15 games, going 7-8 in his starts while completing 60.2% of his passes for 2,942 yards, 18 touchdowns and six interceptions for an 88.0 passer rating. Brissett didn't throw a touchdown pass nor for over 200 yards in his last three games played, finishing with a passer rating lower than 70 on all three occurrences.

Brissett's struggles forced the Colts to look elsewhere for their starting quarterback, especially after Andrew Luck's stunning retirement last August and with he Colts missing the playoffs in four of the past five seasons.

In his final season with the Chargers, Rivers completed 66% of his passes for 4,615 yards with 23 touchdowns and he played all 16 games for the 14th consecutive season. While Rivers finished fourth in the NFL in passing yards, he finished third in the NFL with 20 interceptions and had an 88.5 passer rating. His touchdown percentage of 3.9 was his lowest since becoming the Chargers starting quarterback in 2006 and his adjusted net yards gained per pass attempt (7.1) was his lowest since 2012.

Rivers is currently sixth all-time with 59,271 passing yards and sixth in touchdowns (397). His 224 consecutive regular season starts are the second-most all time.
I'm not a fan of Rivers. But I can watch him in a Colts uniform. Brady, absolutely F*CKING NOT

1965southpaw 03-17-2020 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 156455)
I’m pretty sure you southpaw and Dam are the only ones interested in riding Jacoby

:eek:

Leave me off that list. I'm on record saying his ceiling is that of good backup. As far as your naughty innuendo, I'm satisfied with my BF for those needs....even if he is a Giants fan. :p

Puck 03-17-2020 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 156572)
:eek:

Leave me off that list. I'm on record saying his ceiling is that of good backup. As far as your naughty innuendo, I'm satisfied with my BF for those needs....even if he is a Giants fan. :p

what naughty innuendo?

1965southpaw 03-17-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 156579)
what naughty innuendo?

Perhaps Mrs. Puck can explain it to you. :)

Racehorse 03-17-2020 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 156502)
Any QB who can get us a couple of trips to the SB is more than I could even hope. That's HOF type stuff.

Well, the best quarterback I have ever seen only got us to two of them, so you might be correct.

smitty46953 03-17-2020 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 156572)
:eek:

Leave me off that list. I'm on record saying his ceiling is that of good backup. As far as your naughty innuendo, I'm satisfied with my BF for those needs....even if he is a Giants fan. :p

Giants fan ? Poor guy :rolleyes:

indcolts18288 03-17-2020 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 156562)
No thank you to Jacoby. I have seen enough. He has been here three years and started two seasons. I think that is enough time to see what he is like. The last half of the season was awful.



If that is the highest priority, should try to trade up for Burrow.


I don’t think he was saying it’s the highest priority. I think he was all but saying Hurts isn’t accurate.


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indcolts18288 03-17-2020 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonTails (Post 156527)
Rivers is going to be a complete disaster for this team.

He is too old and a complete statue in the pocket with a noodle arm. He will have more ints than tds guaranteed.

Lets not forget the current QB was 5-2 and 16/4 when the WR/TEs were healthy. I'd rather roll with him and spend money else where if we are not drafting a QB.


Idk complete disaster is a little dramatic, no?


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indcolts18288 03-17-2020 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 156500)
I think it was more about where the team was headed with luck at the helm rather than what he had done up to that point. gave ballard's plan a huge setback.


This is true.


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JAFF 03-17-2020 05:37 PM

The Colts have a very good O line and they can run the ball. Which means who ever the QB is, he can count on play action and give him time to find a reciever or check down and just move the ball down the field.

Rivers may not be able to throw the ball 70 yards, but he doesn't need to. He can dink and dunk and once and a while take a shot while the run game beats the opposition to a pulp

Puck 03-17-2020 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 156587)
Perhaps Mrs. Puck can explain it to you. :)

Will. You call her and explain in detail? No of course I won’t be listening

Luck4Reich 03-17-2020 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonTails (Post 156527)
Rivers is going to be a complete disaster for this team.

He is too old and a complete statue in the pocket with a noodle arm. He will have more ints than tds guaranteed.

Lets not forget the current QB was 5-2 and 16/4 when the WR/TEs were healthy. I'd rather roll with him and spend money else where if we are not drafting a QB.

Silly response. Give Ballard a little more credit. I don’t think he is spending for a disaster.

Chromeburn 03-18-2020 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by indcolts18288 (Post 156658)
I don’t think he was saying it’s the highest priority. I think he was all but saying Hurts isn’t accurate.


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I believe he said accuracy and toughness is what he wanted. I think Burrow is a sure thing. Too bad he is going to the bengals where they embrace mediocrity.

Chromeburn 03-18-2020 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by indcolts18288 (Post 156660)
Idk complete disaster is a little dramatic, no?


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I think he will be ok. He won’t be Luck or Manning. But he will get the ball out find the open guy and move the chains. That’s what we need. A good vet presence will settle things and put points up. Our defense should take a another step and should be a solid team.

Now need some playmakers in the receiving core.

And if it doesn’t work, it’s a one year deal. Better than seeing JB drive this thing into the ground.

1965southpaw 03-18-2020 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 156727)
Will. You call her and explain in detail? No of course I won’t be listening

Sure! Why don't you post your phone number here for all to see. I'm sure that none of these Freaks would sign you up for any annoying telemarketers or Sex Phone chats. :D

smitty46953 03-18-2020 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 156896)
Sure! Why don't you post your phone number here for all to see. I'm sure that none of these Freaks would sign you up for any annoying telemarketers or Sex Phone chats. :D

I got Mrs. Pucks number, you want it? :cool:

Brylok 03-19-2020 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 156902)
I got Mrs. Pucks number, you want it? :cool:

I'm actually warming up to Rivers a bit. I've seen some videos/interviews with him and he seems like an intelligent, motivational leader with some fire/charisma to him. SD fans love the guy. There are several comparisons with Reggie Miller, who of course we all loved but other teams/fans hated. I can see that. I hope he does well here. I can't wait to see what happens this season, if we have a season.

apballin 03-19-2020 03:54 PM

Rivers is not done, where people are coming up with this is beyond me. He can still play and will actually have a home field advantage not to mention isn’t afraid of game winning moments

Racehorse 03-19-2020 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 156902)
I got Mrs. Pucks number, you want it? :cool:

I think a bunch of us have the other number that Puck is unaware of.

JAFF 03-19-2020 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 157007)
I'm actually warming up to Rivers a bit. I've seen some videos/interviews with him and he seems like an intelligent, motivational leader with some fire/charisma to him. SD fans love the guy. There are several comparisons with Reggie Miller, who of course we all loved but other teams/fans hated. I can see that. I hope he does well here. I can't wait to see what happens this season, if we have a season.

Rivers is a DICK on the field. Not in real life. I can live with him pissing the other team off. He's pissed me off for years so he owes me some great play

Brylok 03-19-2020 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 157017)
Rivers is a DICK on the field. Not in real life. I can live with him pissing the other team off. He's pissed me off for years so he owes me some great play

Same. I'm warming up to the idea.

1965southpaw 03-20-2020 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 157017)
Rivers is a DICK on the field. Not in real life. I can live with him pissing the other team off. He's pissed me off for years so he owes me some great play

Now he's OUR dick. :D

Chromeburn 03-20-2020 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 157114)
Now he's OUR dick. :D

That’s what she said

Racehorse 03-21-2020 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 157114)
Now he's OUR dick. :D

Are you sure it isn't Favre's?

Brylok 03-25-2020 01:01 AM

I just listened to the JMV interview with Phillip Rivers and, despite the past, I'm sold and I'm anxious to see what we can do this season...if we have one. Rivers sounds like a leader. His interview sounds like Peyton used to sound (but obviously he's not Peyton). I hope we can have a chance to watch.

Luck4Reich 03-25-2020 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 157578)
I just listened to the JMV interview with Phillip Rivers and, despite the past, I'm sold and I'm anxious to see what we can do this season...if we have one. Rivers sounds like a leader. His interview sounds like Peyton used to sound (but obviously he's not Peyton). I hope we can have a chance to watch.

The thing is he doesnt have to be Peyton was not Peyton the final year Broncos won the SB.... if Ballard puts the right team around Rivers, he is good enough to do the same.

Brylok 03-25-2020 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 157600)
The thing is he doesnt have to be Peyton was not Peyton the final year Broncos won the SB.... if Ballard puts the right team around Rivers, he is good enough to do the same.

The interview sounded like Peyton; excited about playing football and somewhat rambling on about plays from 10+ years ago and just sounding like a leader and a NFL starting quarterback. Not defensive/standoffish like JB or wishy-washy, aloof, mysterious or just odd goofball like Luck. It's on the JMV podcast if you want to hear it.
He will need people to throw the ball to. Our current WR group is bottom half of the league. Also need another TE

Luck4Reich 03-25-2020 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 157606)
The interview sounded like Peyton; excited about playing football and somewhat rambling on about plays from 10+ years ago and just sounding like a leader and a NFL starting quarterback. Not defensive/standoffish like JB or wishy-washy, aloof, mysterious or just odd goofball like Luck. It's on the JMV podcast if you want to hear it.
He will need people to throw the ball to. Our current WR group is bottom half of the league. Also need another TE

I'm believing Ballard adds a few WRs.... through draft and free agency.

Also the WR group wasnt much different from the group that Luck had the previous year. So the group will improve already with Rivers throwing.

Even at his best Brissett just isnt good enough. I dont care how good the receivers you put around him.

Puck 03-25-2020 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 157613)
I'm believing Ballard adds a few WRs.... through draft and free agency.

Also the WR group wasnt much different from the group that Luck had the previous year. So the group will improve already with Rivers throwing.

Even at his best Brissett just isnt good enough. I dont care how good the receivers you put around him.

Here is 2018
Luck
http://www.nfl.com/player/andrewluck...gs?season=2018

2018 Rivers
http://www.nfl.com/player/philiprive...gs?season=2018

here is 2019 Rivers
http://www.nfl.com/player/philiprive...gs?season=2019


He and Luck were comparable in 18. He was a lot better than Luck in 19


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