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JAFF 01-05-2019 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 99271)
You and evolution don't really go together I hear.

That's not true, his Dad created a biological system that is self improving. Nothing else does that.

YDFL Commish 01-05-2019 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 104050)
Give me Bell any day

That's just dumb.

Hoopsdoc 01-05-2019 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 104050)
Give me Bell any day

If you consider the money that would be involved, you’re absolutely insane.

Mack gives you at least 75 percent of what Bell would at a fraction of the cost.

sherck 01-05-2019 09:58 PM

This was the game that showed me that Mack can be the lead back for a RB by committee for the Colts.

Add one more talented late day pick in the draft and we have zero concerns at RB.

I am officially off the Bell train. Let someone else spend the money on him.

Walk Worthy,

Dam8610 01-05-2019 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 104077)
This was the game that showed me that Mack can be the lead back for a RB by committee for the Colts.

Add one more talented late day pick in the draft and we have zero concerns at RB.

I am officially off the Bell train. Let someone else spend the money on him.

Walk Worthy,

I would be, except how do you spend the money that needs to be spent? I doubt the Cowboys are dumb enough to let DeMarcus Lawrence hit the market, and he's the only pass rusher I'd want to hand a big contract to (yes that includes Clowney).

JAFF 01-05-2019 10:48 PM

Apparently Mack set a record for yards in a playoff game for the colts.

Oldcolt 01-05-2019 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 104088)
I would be, except how do you spend the money that needs to be spent? I doubt the Cowboys are dumb enough to let DeMarcus Lawrence hit the market, and he's the only pass rusher I'd want to hand a big contract to (yes that includes Clowney).

I’m not bummed if they hang on to it and keep this line together. If the defense keeps improving a whole lot of those guys are gonna get rich to

Oldcolt 01-05-2019 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 104077)
This was the game that showed me that Mack can be the lead back for a RB by committee for the Colts.

Add one more talented late day pick in the draft and we have zero concerns at RB.

I am officially off the Bell train. Let someone else spend the money on him.

Walk Worthy,

What is selling me on the guy is his pass blocking. He keeps this up and I’m not sure what Bell adds. Maybe a better pass catcher but Hines has that covered. Trust Ballard will get the call right

Coltsalr 01-05-2019 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 104088)
I would be, except how do you spend the money that needs to be spent? I doubt the Cowboys are dumb enough to let DeMarcus Lawrence hit the market, and he's the only pass rusher I'd want to hand a big contract to (yes that includes Clowney).

Trey Flowers.

Maniac 01-05-2019 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 104088)
I would be, except how do you spend the money that needs to be spent? I doubt the Cowboys are dumb enough to let DeMarcus Lawrence hit the market, and he's the only pass rusher I'd want to hand a big contract to (yes that includes Clowney).

Absolutely no chance that Demarcus Lawrence becomes available. It's not going to happen.

Dam8610 01-05-2019 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 104097)
Trey Flowers.

Is even less worth big dollars than Clowney.

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 104098)
Absolutely no chance that Demarcus Lawrence becomes available. It's not going to happen.

I don't think it will. I said as much. That said, if they're stupid, use the tag on Dak, and don't get a deal done with Lawrence before the start of free agency, you pull a private jet up to his house, fly him in, and don't let him leave until he signs a very large contract.

Butter 01-05-2019 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 104104)


I don't think it will. I said as much. That said, if they're stupid, use the tag on Dak, and don't get a deal done with Lawrence before the start of free agency, you pull a private jet up to his house, fly him in, and don't let him leave until he signs a very large contract.

I agree he would be a free agent worth using a huge amount of the excess cap space on. He will get tagged and signed of course. But we can dream.

Chromeburn 01-05-2019 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 104075)
If you consider the money that would be involved, you’re absolutely insane.

Mack gives you at least 75 percent of what Bell would at a fraction of the cost.

Why are you guys so worried about the money? That is probably the least of the worries concerning Bell. We have plenty of money to sign multiple top FA’s if they want to. We have no big impending FAs on our squad. By the time Nelson, Leonard, and some of these other guys roll around, the contract will be nearing its end. I’m more worried about locker room fit than money.

Dam8610 01-06-2019 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 104108)
I agree he would be a free agent worth using a huge amount of the excess cap space on. He will get tagged and signed of course. But we can dream.

Do you think Jerruh will be willing to risk "his QB" hitting free agency to retain Lawrence? It's the smart play, but Jerruh makes some dumb decisions sometimes.

Chromeburn 01-06-2019 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 104113)
Do you think Jerruh will be willing to risk "his QB" hitting free agency to retain Lawrence? It's the smart play, but Jerruh makes some dumb decisions sometimes.

He should be looking for another QB. Dak is pretty overrated. Harder to find a top pass rusher than a mediocre QB. But I think they have enough money coming up to sign both. Shouldn’t be a problem. They also have Elliot and Cooper coming up as well. Elliot will get money like Gurley.

Dam8610 01-06-2019 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 104116)
He should be looking for another QB. Dak is pretty overrated. Harder to find a top pass rusher than a mediocre QB. But I think they have enough money coming up to sign both. Shouldn’t be a problem. They also have Elliot and Cooper coming up as well. Elliot will get money like Gurley.

I know they have the money for both. My hope is that they'll lowball both in negotiations, panic, franchise Dak, and let Lawrence hit free agency. It's unlikely and it would be stupid of them, but I have hope.

Chromeburn 01-06-2019 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 104117)
I know they have the money for both. My hope is that they'll lowball both in negotiations, panic, franchise Dak, and let Lawrence hit free agency. It's unlikely and it would be stupid of them, but I have hope.

Yeah I doubt that also. He knows Lawrence is the guy other teams would want to sign. Dak straddles the Dalton line, doubt many teams would chase him. Trying to think of a single team that would.

Chromeburn 01-06-2019 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 104096)
What is selling me on the guy is his pass blocking. He keeps this up and I’m not sure what Bell adds. Maybe a better pass catcher but Hines has that covered. Trust Ballard will get the call right

Bell is pretty complete and you can use him a variety of ways. Think Marshall Faulk. Just because Bell is on the field doesn’t mean Mack couldn’t be as well. I like Hines but he is not as good a catcher as Bell is right now.

We are doing ok now with what we have. But I want to see how this team does against a smart defensive team like the pats. The pats will take away TY, and probably Ebron. Ebron surprised them last game. We will need to beat them with other guys. That is where a third weapon shows its worth. Remember we are talking moving from a good to a great team.

I like Mack, I started this thread because I thought he deserved props, but is he good enough to take a game over. I see flashes, but I want more consistency. This team was stagnant in the second half. Until Mack’s late runs nothing was happening. Although I feel the Texans gave up at that point.

Butter 01-06-2019 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 104113)
Do you think Jerruh will be willing to risk "his QB" hitting free agency to retain Lawrence? It's the smart play, but Jerruh makes some dumb decisions sometimes.

I mostly only pay attention to the Colts cap, so I have no idea what the Cowboys are dealing with, but if it involves losing Lawrence they are not doing it right. I hope that is true.

Dam8610 01-06-2019 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 104123)
Bell is pretty complete and you can use him a variety of ways. Think Marshall Faulk. Just because Bell is on the field doesn’t mean Mack couldn’t be as well. I like Hines but he is not as good a catcher as Bell is right now.

We are doing ok now with what we have. But I want to see how this team does against a smart defensive team like the pats. The pats will take away TY, and probably Ebron. Ebron surprised them last game. We will need to beat them with other guys. That is where a third weapon shows its worth. Remember we are talking moving from a good to a great team.

I like Mack, I started this thread because I thought he deserved props, but is he good enough to take a game over. I see flashes, but I want more consistency. This team was stagnant in the second half. Until Mack’s late runs nothing was happening. Although I feel the Texans gave up at that point.

I think Inman can be that guy. Also, Hines has shown he can in spots as well.

Butter 01-06-2019 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 104126)
I think Inman can be that guy. Also, Hines has shown he can in spots as well.

They have done great. I would love a better option at WR to move Inman to 3, but it it is a low-level wish.

omahacolt 01-06-2019 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 104097)
Trey Flowers.

Lol

You never fail

Dam8610 01-06-2019 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 104127)
They have done great. I would love a better option at WR to move Inman to 3, but it it is a low-level wish.

Deon Cain could be that guy next year.

Maniac 01-06-2019 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 104129)
Deon Cain could be that guy next year.

Could be. I think they should look for an upgrade in FA or the draft, and then let Cain and Inman fight it out for #3

Dam8610 01-06-2019 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 104137)
Could be. I think they should look for an upgrade in FA or the draft, and then let Cain and Inman fight it out for #3

The FA WR class sucks and I'd rather not spend the first round pick on a #2 WR unless all the pass rushers and ways to trade up for pass rushers are gone.

YDFL Commish 01-06-2019 02:20 AM

The way Mack played today, says to me, that we are set at RB. No, need for Bell in any way shape or form.

Sure you always bring in guys for competition. But RB, is not a need for this team.

Pez 01-06-2019 06:56 AM

24 for 148, 6.2 ypc and a td. That's exactly what we needed today

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