We all know Allen will play better next year, it's a given, but at the same time was just not worth the contract given.

It was a contract dump plain and simple

I wanted to bitch when I heard it but after thinking about it is a solid business move.

Still stings sending anyone to those pieces of shit tho

no

you are stupid

With the 15th pick in the NFL draft the Colts select.......

no he hasn't

Of all the teams to help. New England?

The best offer came out of New England?

Fuck those guys.

Maybe they trade Dorsett too.... I would like to keep him but he could be expendable

It definitely is a solid business move, Allen wasn't worth his contract.

That does look nice from a draft standpoint. I hope we get some nice picks there in the 4th. We are a couple years from really competing anyway. Draft well in this "deep" draft and pair them with our young core. In a couple years brady will be finished, this trade wont matter as allen will be out of football due to injury, and we can rule the AFC! (yes, optimism)

Wow, unexpected.
I'm not really sure what to make of this. I see good and bad. I'll guess we'll find out this season whether the Pats got the better of the deal

This doesn't help them Allen is not Bennett, they are scrambling obviously because they were willing to give up a 4th for him

you haven't made a good post in years

Elsewhere, Mathis is acting...strange...

ROBERT MATHIS The1st @RobertMathis98 1h1 hour ago
WHOA!!! Traded Martellus Bennett for Dwayne Allen!!! We did business with the Pats lol ... times change 😂😂😂😂

ROBERT MATHIS The1st‏ @RobertMathis98 55m55 minutes ago
I might have spoke too soon on the Bennett swap, not sure about who and what details... waiting to see details 👀👀👀



I'm really wondering what the hell he's talking about.

I don't like it, but DA probably wanted out of Indianapolis after all the negativity from the fan base towards him. I expect he'll be an All Pro next year if he stays healthy. It's a win for him anyway.

Bennett and Allen essentially have the same skill set.

I don't believe Bennett is really much better than Allen.

New England also has competent coaches who will put Allen in positions to succeed he likely hasn't seen since his rookie year.

Hopefully the 4th rounder we have for him ends up being a contributor. I didn't perceive Allen's contract to be that detrimental to the team given the potential for future production should our offense ever get it together.

Colts have not traded with the Patriots in 32 years?

1985: 10th rd pick to Pats for LB Tim Golden

:cool:

If they decided to move on from Allen due to his ineffectiveness high cap hit and the presence of Doyle coupled with the promise Swoope has shown then this is far better than cutting the guy for nothing.

Seems like a smart move if that was the consensus, honestly I didn't think he would be worth much of anything pick wise. I don't know if I like the move but I do like the fact that we're making moves on an 8-8 roster.

Do you like dropped passes and missed games? I do not.

Again, do you like dropped passes and missed games. I do not.

No, he will be bitching, just like he did here, that he's not involved enough in the passing game.

I don't like the value, but I didn't like having that much money tied up in Allen, either. He's injury prone and has drop issues. Would've been better to get a 4th just for Allen, but it is what it is.

Omaha doesn't mind missed games and dropped passes when it's the black guy doing it.

I have decided to like or not like this deal based on if any of our other young receivers step up and become "trusted" by Luck.

If Dorsett, Swoope or Rogers step it up, then we will not miss Allen at all and the deal was great.

If no one steps up, then it was a bad trade.

Time will tell.

Cheers,

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We have already established you are a racist. Leave me out of your shit

I could have seen him being cut after this year anyway so I'm okay with the trade. Wish we wouldn't have given our 6th round pick away, but whatever. It also sucks that we gave anything to the Patriots.

That's an odd way to look at it. Makes pretty much zero sense

I don't remember him bitching here

Nah, their coaching staff is miles better than ours. He'll be used properly there.

Really?

Teams make decisions all the time to move on from high priced talent because they have lower priced talent behind them that they believe will fill the void left.

Trading Allen created a void as a receiving option on the 2017 Colts. I am going to judge that trade based on if the lower priced talent on the team fills the void or not.

If the offense don't not skip a beat in 2017, then good trade. If it struggles because no one steps up as a 4th trusted pass catching option, then bad trade.

What is hard to understand about that?

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Ok, then you have selective memory. I believe that it was after the '15 season, yet for some reason Grigson loved him anyway.

I'm telling you that he definitely bitched about the way he was used.

Yes I remember it too

I don't recall that at all. From all accounts but yours, he was a great team player

that they traded him for a 4th rounder. If he is terrible then that factors in.

And Allen has a value as a blocker as well. No te on the roster will match that.

Did the colts gain more than they lost is how you judge it.

He also pouted and stopped appearing on local radio shows since the hosts dared to say he was no longer pulling his weight on the field.

That was a red flag for me. Particularly when he went completely silent with JMV. They had been buddy-buddy before that. That's when I thought DA was done with fans and media and probably wanted out of Indianapolis. I don't listen to Dakich but I'll assume he said a lot of negative things just being himself.

fans are assholes and were brutal to the guy. i don't blame him


he should have kept a lower profile to begin with.

So, we basically traded DA to move up our 6th rounder to a 4th rounder?

DA wasn't worth his contract but I didn't think he was worthy of being dumped like this either. It's not like the Colts needed the cap space. Or, maybe they do for subsequent years?

Colts must really like somebody in the 4th round. Or really like Swoope.

Guess it all depends upon how good Ballard is at drafting.

This is funny coming from you / you've treated DA with kid gloves since he got here while busting other's balls, most notably Fleener.

yeah but fleener is a bitch

I don't blame him either. I've always been a DA fan, but hopefully this works out well for all parties. It's done, so in Ballard I trust. From the Allen perspective, he went from a mediocre franchise to a perennial Super Bowl contender. All he has to do is stay healthy.

Sure you're a fan of Allen, but you hope this works out for the Patriots? Seriously? Turn in your Colts card.