I do not at all believe Jim held Ballard back in FA. It’s been clear by words and actions what Ballards philosophy is. He’s told us since day one and he’s mostly followed it. The change this offseason was strictly him feeling the pressure from fans and ownership.

The one thing I concede MAY have been Irsay was starting AR so early. This team has completely fucked up any chance at developing him. AR obviously owns some responsibility but I tend to blame the team more. Ballard has stated he doesn’t believe in veteran leadership and mentoring and I believe that is exactly what AR needed. so even if he was forced to start AR by Irsay, I blame him for not bringing in a true veteran mentor for AR

Relying on your coaches and then hiring soft ass players coaches is a big part of this teams issue. They are soft, lack accountability, and there is no leadership in the locker room. And Ballard has told us he believes the coaches set the culture. It’s one of the first things he said that let me know this team was fucked. And he followed through with his actions.

Chris Ballard had a backup plan…Anthony Richardson. What he didn’t have, what no team has, is a high quality option at number three, much less four, on the depth chart.

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You also said that you wanted Jonathan Taylor to immediately be cut from the team, and replaced with the hair around your asshole.







If the Irsays took your prudent and well-conceived advice, the Colts would have the hair around your asshole taking handoffs from Daniel Jones, and they would have Dam's asshole pulling the strings as the GM ...... at that rate, the franchise might win about 5 games over the next 3 years combined.

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Not taking sides in this bitch session, but that last part of your post made me laugh. "look at that hair, dragging two clingons for an extra 5 yards!"

As long as the Clingons weren’t armed with bat’leths, we’d be fine.

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I just had a colonoscopy yesterday ...... and no, I'm not joking.

I'm 60 years-old, and it was my second colonoscopy ever (I had my first one 4 years ago, when I was 56.)

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If they had taken my advice, we would have had a better GM, coach, and numerous better players this year, and we would be in the playoffs. At some point you have to just give up on shit that doesn't work. What we have, doesn't work.

CW, PM me your real name and contact info and I'll write a letter to Carlie, recommending you for the position as her advisor on all personnel matters.

I don't meet the pre-requisites for the position:

"The ideal candidate will already have pictures of me giving them BJ's"


...there can be no other logical answer.

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The franchise would not exist within 5 years ....... your imbecilic, raging demands make Robert Irsay look like a cool, calm, collected gatekeeper.

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Bob, I remember him well.

On the other end of the competency spectrum, I think it was Bill Parcells who commented that the fastest road to mediocrity in football was listening to your fan base.

JT disappeared the last half of the year, both running and blocking. I know it wasn't his fault, it is never anyones fault. We lost 8 games in a row and zero people are held responsible. Shit just happens to this franchise. Next year we will be more urgent (begs the question of what the fuck we were this year and why nobody is held accountable for it). These guys just didn't try hard enough last year (somehow nobody gets fired), next year they are gonna. I am sure that a winning/accountable culture will spontaneously arrive for us.

I had no idea the Colts listened to their fan base so closely

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The Colts don't listen to their fan-base ...... at all ...... not even in the slightest.

Kray was not insinuating that the Colts listened to their fan-base ....... he was pointing out the fact that if the Colts did listen to their fan-base, they would make the Jets and the Browns look like model franchises.

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It was sarcasm. Parcells stated that you better not listen to your fan base otherwise you will become mediocre. We have been the defiition of mediocre the last decade, hence I was being sarcastic by insinuating we must be listening to the fan base because we are so mediocre.

As long as we are quoting Parcells I think his most famous and often repeated quote of his is "You are what your record says you are".

I would absolutely prefer to be either the Browns or the Jets right fucking now. They both have looked at the status quo and said fuck this- this isn't acceptable. At least they are positioned to try to do something different to change the trajectory of the team. But hey, hopeium is also a fucking great alternative!

Give me a raging red nosed sponged liver psychopath demanding fucking results vs this wishy washy, participation trophies are great, bullshit we have now.

How can you not see this, how can you not recognize that we are in the literal WORST of all NFL positions. We aren't in the playoffs, we don't have a high pick, and we don't even have a first rounder.

Why in the FUCK do you and others seemingly relish in being mediocre for the sake of being mediocre?

Several have asked the question, no one, including you, answer- WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT TAKE, WHEN IS ENOUGH SUCKING--- ENOUGH SUCKING????

O come on now, can't we narrow it down better than that? ;)

CW, 1969. That's the last time the Jets were in a Super Bowl. And the Browns? They're envious of that. They've been trying to change the trajectory of the team for 57 fucking years in one case and eternity in the other. You can start rooting for them right now. They're used to unhappy fans. You'll fit right in.

I said right now, nothing to do with the past. Right now, absolutely give me the position of either the Jets or the Browns. Jets are going to get a chance to draft a potential super star at QB and they have a stockpile of high picks to help him with.

The Browns have the best defensive end in the game, possibly history, and could look to complement him with another demon edge rusher in Bane to create a duo that would terrorize QB's or they could go get a stud WR like Lemon, or even get Love at RB. All pieces that could be massive pieces for their future.

We, we on the other hand will be watching day 1, and we're most likely not going to be able to get "the best defensive player in the draft (cocky chortle, cocky chortle, flat bill flip)". No, instead, in the mid 2nd round, we'll probably go kicker since our kicking group is questionable going into next year- great chance to shore that up with a 2nd round pick.

Yeah man, you know me sooooooo well C&O.

Hylerbole! Other than Mendoza (and I'm lukewarm on him), I don't see a superstar QB.

"potential"

Mendoza to me looks every bit the part of the modern NFL QB. Big, smart, able to use his legs, workhorse, tough, accurate, and the fucker just throws the ball where it needs to be in big moments- which is a HUGE part of the NFL game. His clutch plays against not just Penn State, but Oregon and Iowa- that is a gamer.

Moore, I am not as high on him as most but I definitely see the NFL caliber throws from him.

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The Jets and the Browns are not in a position of getting high draft choices by design. They are in their respective positions because they have been terribly run franchises. If the Colts had been run like either of those franchises for the past 15 years, you would probably get a gun and murder the entire Irsay family ........ and I'm only slightly exaggerating.

I seriously doubt that you would be posting about how happy you are that the Colts were about to draft Fernando Mendoza if they had the resume of the Jets for the past 15 years, and I doubt that you would be contented and thinking that it's a damned good thing that the Colts have been terrible for that long because at least it's better than being a team with a mediocre record that isn't getting high draft picks.

You can assert that you would rather be in the position of the Jets because there is a good chance that they will draft a potential superstar quarterback, but that allegation is fantasy ...... it's nothing more than a claim based on a red-herring.

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Again, you bring the fucking context of the past into this, not me. Right now, fuck yes sign me up for either of their positions vs ours. Yes, absolutely! We are fucking STUCK in purgatory with incompetent PROVEN losers running the org. Great, great shit! Can't wait til next year when a half legged QB, a broken neck DT, another aging and likely to decline DT, a 2nd round JAG DE, an empty CB slot, and a cast of other non-impact players lead us to a big bad ass 7-10 or 8-9 record for the 275th year in a row. Whoopy, so exciting!

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Well, then you'll be hard-pressed to find people to take what you say seriously.

The Colts, the Jets, and the Browns didn't just morph into existence last month, and you didn't just starting rooting for the Colts last week.

You apparently get some satisfaction by behaving like an incorrigible malcontent. Enjoy your fantasy, whatever that is.

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No fucking idea, none, what in the fuck this has to do with anything? Not a single fucking thing about the past history of these teams is applicable to whether I would want to be sitting in either the Jets or the Browns positions RIGHT NOW, at the end of the 2025 season vs that of the Colts. Sometimes man you just go to weird dots that don't connect.

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You need me to spell it out for you like you're a 5 year-old ??? OK. I'll do just that.

Almost all of your posts are psychotic rages about Chris Ballard's failures over the past 9 years as the Colts' GM ...... that is very much about the past. Then in your next breath, you say that you would rather be in the position of the Jets ...... and when I point out that the Jets have been a dumpster fire of a franchise for almost 15 years, and that they didn't get to be in their current position out of design, you say, "No, that's in the past !!! I'm not talking about the past !!! I'm talking about right now !!!"

That is what a child does ...... he makes incessant, non-stop complaints about one team's GM's doings over the past 9 years, and then he asserts that he would rather be in the position of another team whose GM's have done nothing but run their franchise into the ground for well for almost 15 years ...... if you're too stupid to follow and comprehend that very simple logic, then you're a bigger imbecile than I thought that you were in the first place.


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And all of that has what connection go whether or not, on 1/7/26, I would prefer to be in the Browns or Jets position than I would the Indianapolis Colts?

Past success, past mediocrity, no bearing whatsoever on where we stand in terms of prospects for the future at this moment in time. The Browns may get John Harbaugh. Would I rather be the Browns, with John Harbaugh and Myles Garret vs Shane Steichen and Latu Latu, oh hell yes I would. Again, the question is about TODAY, not the 1947 Kentucky Shiners that morphed into the Oakland Truckers in 1965, and then were bought by the Memphis Steelers in 1971 where Crankston Moore fumbled at the goal line just like Jonathan Taylor but they went on to win the SB in 1987 so the Colts will win the SB too.

This thread has become insane.

Here you go CW:

https://forums.theganggreen.com/thre...-jet-”.101230/

I promise, you won't be missed here.

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I don't think that Jets fans would welcome him ...... he said that he would rather have Robert Irsay running the show than Chris Ballard ...... when they hear about that, they would send him packing with their collective foot so far up his ass that they would have to perform surgery to get it out.

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Actually, the last time that the Jets made it to the Super Bowl was 1968 (the 1968 season.)

Richard Nixon had just been elected as the President of the country, Denny McLain won 31 games for the Detroit Tigers, and the Beatles had just released an awesome double album which became known as ""The White Album" ...... that great band has since parted ways.

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Hey CW. Don't even think about leaving.

Ha, hell no. To me, this is why CF's is the place to be, open, hard ass, no frills fucking conversation. This is the way fans should be allowed to go at it vs so many of the other places that are so sanitized it's ludicrous.

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He won't leave. Raging, narcissistic psychopaths who spend a good portion of their lives showing everybody how insane they are never voluntarily leave a platform ...... so you can rest easy, and know that his inane, nonsensical outbursts will keep showing up here.

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On November 3, 1965, at 4:13 PM, ChoppedWood mailed a letter to Carroll Rosenbloom demanding the team play a damn running back at QB. This was a letter from a psychopath with an insane demand. However, the team then faked injuries to both Johnny U and Gary Cuozzo so that the man that wrote love letters to Chopped's mother asking her if she would sell him Chopped Wood because he knew he was a football savant, Tom Matte, could play for the team in the final 3 games of the season beating the Packers in the playoffs. It is a remarkable moment in NFL history.

On the same day, November 3, 2025, exactly 60 years later, Emmett Johnson, of the Arizona Wildcats scored a 3 yard rushing touchdown. 10 people in Tucson drank beers together that afternoon.

Yes very tiring to see every thread over run with the same arguments
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It's getting old fellas

My opinion on the decision to keep both

Much like I have said that, while i really like Riley. He is not ready to be the starter He may be some day, but not yet, especially if DJ is on the team.

I don't think CIG was prepared either. She is not her Dad and I am guessing she does not have the connections that Jim had, not the knowledge he has gained through all his years in the business.

She took over the team in June ish. So up until now she has been in her present role for about 7 months. And she was dealing with the passing of her father, his estate etc. Don't care if your a billionaire or living paycheck to paycheck That is a lot

She has had to concentrate her attention to this season. I promise none of us could have taken on that responsibility and still been able to work on a list of possible replacements for either CB or SS.

She saw the quick start and saw that this is a team that can win now and is not far off from serious contention. So her attention stayed with continuing on the early success the team had.

She was all in on the Sauce trade, Which made sense. To me anyway, because this was the Jim chips all in season. Still had a chance to make the playoffs. Brought in Rivers Hoping he could get us there. AR was down, and they just hadn't seen enough in the kid to put it all on him. AND he was injured as well. That is a lot of adversity. They took a shot and had a chance to win against the Seahawks and Jax Both went to the last minute.

Injuries killed this team this yr. Injuries are not an excuse but they are a reason (not sure where I read that but it makes sense)

Could she have fired everyone? Sure, should've she? No IMO But what if because she didn't have a plan she made a huge mistake? Fire them and she can't find good replacements. No 1st rd picks for 2 years. Who wants that? A rookie GM and a Rookie HC most likely

Like Riley. She wasn't ready for all this on her plate, all at once.

She could have went by the way of her Grandpa Bob, or Chopped or Dickitch (all the same to me). And fired off of impulse without a plan. But she's smarter than that.

I'm OK to give her a mulligan this yr. She will have much more time to establish her rolodex and be prepared next year if needed.

No matter what I am supporting her and the Colts.

Well fuck me, a rational thought out answer that has swayed how I think. At least about this decision, I still think Ballard should go but appreciate that she may not have been in the best place to make this happen right now. Excellent post, wish I had thought of it