I do not block regular posters. I only block spammers.

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In 1998, 44 year-old Steve DeBerg had not played in the NFL since 1993, 5 years earlier.

DeBerg decided to give a phone call to Atlanta Falcons head coach Dan Reeves, and inform him that he was intending to make a comeback ...... at which point a flabbergasted Reeves thought that DeBerg was certifiably insane.



Philip Rivers Will Start for Colts ...... And Steve DeBerg Knows the Feeling

(By Sam Farmer)

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story...colts-seahawks

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Okay CW, consider yourself placed in the undecided group.

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Prior to the final INT when we were desperately trying to force the ball downfield in the final seconds of the 4th quarter, Philip Rivers' passer rating was 77.8. After that INT, it was 73.1.

Sam Darnold's passer rating for today's game was 84.4.


After starting the game cold going 3-for-8, Rivers went 15-for-19 the rest of the way, including 2 incompletions that were intentional to avoid being sacked.

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That sounds good, but the fact Abdullah was our leading receiver is a problem

18 completions for 120 yards. That ain’t gonna cut it.

Pierce had one catch for 16 yards. He is completely useless with Rivers at quarterback.

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If we were talking about a team that was on it's 1st-string or even 2nd-string quarterback, I would agree ....... this team was on its 4th-string quarterback today ...... and a 4th-string quarterback NEVER cuts it, for ANY team.

If somebody had told any of us before the game that a 4th-string quarterback (or even a 3rd-string quarterback) would throw for 120 yards while not turning the ball over, and settling into a 15-for-19 finish over the final 3 quarters of the game, I don't think that there is an objective football fan in the world that wouldn't take that.

I'm not arguing that Rivers is going to cut it, but that's not the point ...... Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson were not available, and Riley Leonard has been nursing an injured knee, which may or may not be 100%. Today we didn't have anybody available that was going to cut it. We don't have options that are going to cut it at this point. The gamble for today's game and for the final 3 games of the season is going with either an old, immobile, broken down-but-very savvy and experienced Philip Rivers, or a completely untested 3rd-string QB in Riley Leonard ...... and that gamble is about a 50/50 gamble, maybe 55/45 in favor of Leonard.

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Leonard had no injury designation today. He wasn’t listed on the final injury report.

In other words, he was completely healthy.

He didn’t play because Steichen thought Rivers gave them the best chance to win.

So Rivers wasn’t their 4th string quarterback. He was essentially the third. The guy who had been third was deemed not good enough.

If a player is dealing with an injury, nfl teams are required to report it on the injury report.

If Leonard was still dealing with an injury and the colts were planning on starting Rivers anyway, there’s no reason they would have risked getting fined by not listing Leonard on the injury report.

That makes no sense.

Leonard was completely healthy for today’s game. To say otherwise makes no sense.

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Yes, and after the fact, that decision wound up being completely defensible.

Even if Leonard's knee was 100% today, he may or may not have played better than Rivers did today. He may have used his mobility and youth to throw for 250 yards and 2 TD's ...... or, he may have been eaten alive by the Seattle defense, and thrown 3 INT's and fumbled the ball away for a 4th turnover. As I sai9d before, the gamble between the two for today's game was about 50/50.

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So you’re saying the colts risked being fined by not reporting Leonard as injured on the off chance that, if RIVERS got injured, it might throw the Seahawks off if Leonard came into the game?

That makes ZERO sense. That’s dumb.

If Leonard were still injured, he would have been on the injury report. There would have been no reason for them to keep him off the injury report.

Jesus Christ.

I’m not saying things like that never happen.

I AM saying that there would have been nothing to gain for the Colts by doing that today.

You are saying that Leonard was probably still injured even though not even the Colts were saying that.

You have no basis for that claim.

Leonard wasn’t injured. If he was, the Colts would have said so, first of all because they’re required to, and secondly because it would have given them cover if Rivers completely bombed.

I’m not sure why you’re fixated on this.

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I'll tell you what, Hoops Doc ...... I deleted all of my posts in regard to Leonard's knee. Our debate wasn't worth the trouble, as it's not that important.

I say that's it's possible that Leonard may have still had a score knee that wasn't reported by the team so that the Seahawks would be none the wiser, and you say that you're sure that he was completely healthy ...... no big deal.

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I’m just saying what the team said. And they said Leonard wasn’t injured.

I’ve got no reason to think they were lying.

What is the purpose of Philip Rivers playing another down for the Colts this season? I will probably be accused of being negative, but had the Colts defense played the same way yesterday for Leonard, and the Seahawks offense played as poorly, Leonard would have won that game. That is just my opinion of course, but based on what I saw in the second half at Jacksonville, Leonard would have given us a better chance to win!

The problem is, I doubt our defense would have played as hard for Leonard, we probably would have gotten more rotten calls from the refs, and our OL would not have protected Leonard as well. You should be able to count on the same effort from the D and the O-line, and the refs should call the game the same regardless of the situation, but we all know that just isn't the case!

Unless Riley Leonard is hurt, he should start Monday night, but I'm pretty sure it will be Rivers part 2.

Until they’re completely eliminated from playoff contention, I think Rivers will continue starting. Steichen clearly thinks he gives them the best chance to win.

I think they’ll lose out. Hopefully Leonard will get another shot at some point.

I agree 100% with your entire post.

If Leonard had that effort from the offense and defense yesterday, he would have won the game for us. By the end, their entire defense was no more than 10 yards downfield on the snap because OMR could not push it further than that.

We will see but my guess is that CIG gave the ultimatium at the beginning of the season "Playoffs or bust" and Ballard / SS are trying hard to avoid the "bust."

If they roll Grandpa back out there, and I hate to say this but there’s no way he’s making thru 3 more games. They were looking at his shoulder after halftime and he barely got touched all game.

Put fuckin Leonard in there and let’s fuckin go

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Shane Steichen: Philip Rivers will be the starting quarterback against San Francisco.

On Richardson, Steichen says "he's cleared from the eye standpoint, but we're just starting to work him back in physically"

The same McAfee that was not renewing his tickets sounds more positive than the majority of fans.

Stop talking me off the ledge Puck