Guy was always a gamble. Gonna see if he improves this year. I’m not really worried about the shoulder. I think him going is just a precaution and getting a second opinion. I’m not stressing too much about it. If he can’t do it it’s back on the QB carousel again. Keep doing it till you hit.

I think we all knew that when he pulled himself out of the game!

Carlie was definitely prepared by Jim Irsay to be the voice of the team. Her words, cadence and tone are very similar to his.

hmm

something is similar here. curious why you picked these 3

how could you possibly know any of that? "he probably wasn't doing much"


Jesus dude

They were all high #1 draft choices.

I don't know it, that's why I said "probably". What I do know is that if your arm was not very active for a few months and then suddenly you started throwing like crazy, you're going to get sore and achy.

I like listening to PFT, with Mike Florio and Chris Simms. SImms is one the best analysts and talent evaluators out there when it comes to offensive skill position players.

Simms believes that AR will always have shoulder troubles, because his throwing motion is so violent and AR only relies on his arm and doesn't use his whole body to create the torque in his throws. I believe this to be true, because all of the best throwers of the football, who listed a long time would use their entire body to make the majority of throws.

As I have said before, move the kid to TE, and see if he really wants it.

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Anthony Richardson may never throw another pass for the Indianapolis Colts again, and I suppose that it's possible that Richardson confided in Carlie Irsay that he prefered to just hold a clipboard on the sidelines and collect a paycheck. But her insinuation about his lack of desire to play (if he wants to) doesn't necessarily prove that he doesn't have the desire to play. One of Richardson's questionable habits that I and others critiqued him for was putting his shoulder down and taking on defenders in non-crucial situations ...... such as 1st and 2nd downs. A quarterback who is too reckless in taking on defenders doesn't strike me as a gun-shy player and/or somebody who doesn't want to play football. If anything, it shows somebody who is a bit too eager to prove himself.

And yes, I know that he asked out of a game and later stated that he did so because he was tired, but as Omaha pointed out, that may have been him trying to cover up an injury because of all the criticsm that he had been getting for frequently being injured ...... and if that was the case, his cover-up was worse than the truth in the view of public criticism.

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Simms, being a former QB himself, may have a point. And if that's the case, I would hope that the Colts' coaching staff notices what Simms does, and tries to (at least slightly) adjust his throwing motion.

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So you agreeing with me, that he may never be right physically to ever play QB?

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Not necessarily. There are multiple reasons why he may or may not continue as the Colts' starting quarterback, and your theory is one possibility. Another possibility is that Daniel Jones could lead the Colts to a 13-4 record in 2025, and the Colts could subsequently cut ties with Richardson and trade him. A 3rd possibilty (although not very likely) is that the Colts could do what you suggested, and move Richardson to tight end or wide receiver.

On the whole, I don't think that it's likely that Richardson never throws another pass for Colts again. I was saying that as a way of implying/reinforcing the fact that I don't know what the future holds any more than any other Colts fan does, not necessarily because I think that him never throwing another pass for the team is likely.

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Wasn’t that the point of going to work with Josh Allen’s trainer?

If Derrick Henry can throw a TD pass out of the RB position, just think what AR could do as a wildcat type player.

You could throw in Blake Bortles, Josh Rosen, Tim Couch, Johnny Manziel, etc.

AR is not durable enough to run the football in the nfl, if he runs 5 times he gets hurt. It is unfair, his greatest gift as a QB is his running threat, but he is not durable enough to use it! I predict Jones does well enough that he is the starting QB all season, and they may try to use AR in a wildcat but if they do, he won't last 1/2 the season!

I am not being all negative, I think Daniel Jones is going to surprise some people and be very good for the Colts!

The small amount of film I have seen on Daniels in mini camp so far, he is threading the needle and hitting some dimes in stride. If he does that in camp and preseason he will be the starter and the argument is over.

I do not care which of them wins this competition, as long as the winner is effective in this offense. Get us to the division champion where we belong.

No argument here. I don't care who is starting as long as they are doing what it takes to win the division. Still doesn't make me less salty for wasting a top 5 pick on someone who's film showed we got exactly what the film said he was, inconsistent. I was on record not wanting any of them. Could have spent that pick on D and embrace the suck until a legit QB came out.

Correct. That's the only reason that you would do it. I'm not suggesting that AR will become a 20 snap per game TE. You use him as a gadget guy, who plays maybe 3 to 5 snaps a game.

Can you imagine a backfield of Jones, AR and Warren? Which one is throwing the football, which one is running the football. They all can do all three well enough to have the defense on its heels and in a quandary.

From your mouth to whatever particular God's ear.

you sure could. but he didn't

Looks like AR's shoulder has been deemed ok, and he's throwing again.

https://fox59.com/sports/colts/colts...umed-throwing/

What are the odds that AR makes it through training camp without an injury....I'd say they are not too good!

I suspect Jones is already penciled in as the starter, they just can’t say so publicly.

AR appears to have lost some weight since the last time I saw him.

https://www.nfl.com/news/daniel-jone...ng-quarterback

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Lighter, and more agile and athletic (I hope.)

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As well as conditioning and endurance. Don't know if the article mentioned, but he said he dropped about 10lbs. down to 240lbs.

Pretty sure he'll never even pretend to tap out again, regardless... but the underlying feeling of being gassed in the first place is good to address. You could imagine that fatigue affecting his throwing mechanics.

Think many folks are giving up on AR way too soon (the national media has written his obituary with the Colts). This is what we signed up for when we drafted the man. He wasn't just inexperienced in game play, he didn't grow up in that QB culture most do (summer camps with pros etc). He had/has so much to learn about being a pro QB, plus he has dealing with the psychological/physical affect of injury his first two years (he is only 23 and doesn't have all that much life experience to help him through shit). On a football field he pretty much does everything well except short/intermediate accuracy. To me he has shown a ton to get excited about. He has excellent pocket presence, he processes well, throws a great long ball, runs better than any other QB out there and has shown he isn't afraid of the fourth quarter. It is crazy to think he isn't working on his accuracy and won't improve it. If he does, and it doesn't have to be perfect with all his other attributes, we are set for years. He will win this competition and take a big step this year. Watching a player develop, especially after agonizing through the start of a career, is one of the most satisfying things there is for a fan. There is a damn good chance we get that joy as Colts fans this year. And yes it isn't a sure thing. That is what makes it exciting and so damn satisfying when it happens.

Glad to see not everyone wants to microwave the guy into being great. It takes time. However, he has some elite traits that just cannot be taught, and that is exciting to me. Based on his age, this should be his rookie or second year in the league. He has time to develop, if given that opportunity.

From what we keep reading, it seems like he'll be QB1. If the whole mental reps thing is an indication that he's treating studying like a job, that's great. That's the approach we wanted.

In the limited film we have of camp, he does seem to be more conscious about footwork. Especially in some vids of him throwing on the move. Very limited, so we'll see.

Just don't get hurt and stack the experience. The separation from winning the division isn't that far. He already has the dynamic parts. If he makes the routine stuff become actually routine, this offense will light teams up.

I'll admit, I have pretty much given up on him, but I want to be wrong and I will certainly root for his success if he wins out over Jones. Some people wrote off Jordan Love and Kyler Murray and both have proved them wrong, if Anthony turns it around he could be the most improved player in the league!

Being a hard core fan we can easily get lost in the day to day shit. We want to win now and really have no patience for the kind of crap we have seen from AR. Very understandable. I think, however, if you take a wider view it becomes apparent that this could be just part of a growth pattern for a young man. Nobody knows how this will turn out and that is the fun of sports. I am not sold that this will turn out great, he hasn't played a good complete game for us yet, but feel this pattern falls within 'normal' of a young persons growth. I put a ton into the fact that this young man seems to have almost zero asshole in him and seems to be maturing. I actually love how he has handled his tapping out (not that he did it but how he dealt with the repercussions) I see growth thru my rose colored glasses. Patience will bring dividends.

2nd series vs Ravens, Richardson injured again!

The showed him a little later standing on the sideline putting headphones on and not getting looked at, so hopefully he was just shook up a bit and the Colts kept him out for precautionary reasons.

Dislocated pinky, it got interesting real quick