RGIII was 6'2" 223. Young compares more size wise (and game wise) to Russell Wilson (pre-hand injury) or Drew Brees.

Sounds a lot like Carson Wentz, right down to the "fixable" footwork.

I was referring to how easily he was broken. Young is far more fragile.

On a side note, it is early but Stroud is playing well. Not seeing the indecisiveness in a big game that I have seen in previous big games. See where it ends up at the end, but if this is the Stroud we get I'm in.

RGIII was a risk because of how much he ran the ball. Bryce Young is a good QB precisely because he uses his athleticism to stay in the pocket to make plays. That's the type of athletic QB that can have a long career.

Also, yes, CJ Stroud is destroying the best defense in college football. He will look great in a Colts uniform.

Stroud just moved the ball up and down the field at will against the best defense in college football after losing his best receiver, tight end, and running back, and only lost because his kicker missed the game winning field goal attempt. I hope he's available when the Colts pick.

I’d still take Levi’s over him… extra time to prepare and he didn’t do shit once Harrison got injured.

Only beat 2 ranked teams all year Oline gave him all day to throw. Did I mention he played for Ohio State

Trade for the best QB. I have always loved Carr, but I am not taking that chit. Let’s go with Captain Comeback. I think he loves us.

I love Harbaugh…

Just so you know. I am in havasu

Ummmm… still in Havasu. Let’s go Arizona!

Shaq is still scared of Larry.

Best player to ever coach the game

Just the best

If Smits was healthy we would have a championship. Great team!

We had a great team a few years as well. What happened?

Put them in the order you want but Young & Stroud are the top two qb’s in this draft.

And neither is worth a top 15 pick, certainly not worthy of a top-5, which is where Indy will be selecting.

They may take one of them anyway, but I'm in favor of an OT, DE, or WR.

This is what I've seen and read from other evaluators on the 1st round QBs.

Bryce Young
Good: Best skills and intangibles of the group. Can read defenses. Great improviser when plays break down, good enough arm with nice touch. Good poise in the pocket and can navigate around it using windows formed by the rush. Is the same whether under pressure or with a clean pocket. Would be the undisputed number 1 pick if not for...

Bad: Under 6ft. Rumors are he is 5'10 and 180-190lbs after a Bama measurement day. That's like a small nickel corner. Won't know until the combine. But that is really small for a QB. Wilson and Murray are over 200 lbs. He doesn't have Murray's speed and athleticism. Teams will worry about his ability to take hits in the NFL, but it also affects his vision. Grossman once said he doesn't throw the outlet bc he couldn't see him, and he was 6'1. Wilson is notorious for not throwing the outlet passes bc he can't see it. Tua just admitted his vision is restricted and it affects his game, he is 6ft and some change. So it will be a factor teams consider.


CJ Stroud
Good: Probably the best accuracy of the group. Great long ball. Good size and a strong arm that can make all the throws. Pocket passer with the athleticism to scramble, but stays in the pocket almost to a fault. Known as a tremendous leader in the locker room.

Bad: Is surrounded by 1st round receivers and linemen. Has a clean pocket almost every game, that will not be the case in the NFL. Is not as creative in off-script plays, has shown some potential but you would like to see more. He has a reputation for not doing well under pressure, and in the NFL you are always under pressure. The few games when he was under pressure things did not go very well. Has an awful completion percentage when under pressure. In his playoff game he showed a lot of his critics that he could do those things.


Will Levis
Good: Big, highly athletic QB with a cannon for an arm and the ability to run. Has shown great touch on throws over defenders. Can easily make all the throws on a pro field. Plays in a pro-style offense and is tabbed as the most pro-ready QB. Did not have much talent around him this year and was played hurt most of the year. The offense did not seem to play to his strengths.

Bad: His mechanics could use some work and rumors his progressions are slow. Had a bad stat year, much better in 2021. Had to play hero ball a lot, is that because of a lack of talent around him? His touch is inconsistent, some times has too much juice on his throws. He needs to work on his passing more.


Anthony Richardson
Good: The biggest traits QB in the draft. Highest ceiling, the most athleticism, very strong arm. Shows wow moments of improv when plays break down. Exciting and creative passer who can throw to any point on the field. His accuracy should be better because his receivers dropped a LOT of passes that were catchable. Enormous potential.

Bad: Limited college sample size. Very Raw player still. Did not have a great cast around him so hard to know exactly how good he is. Will likely have to sit the first year. Is a team willing to wait and develop him?

Wish you would have added Hooker into this But otherwise. nice job

Good stuff, definitely all right on the mark as far as my observations watching them.

If it's me, I am going with Richardson. I think he is the prototype for what the new NFL QB is- big, cannon, and can move the chains with his feet. Yeah a lot of development runway is needed but we are going to suck for the next couple years at least.

I would go Stroud next. He did a really good job against and NFL team last night and damn near won the game on the final drive.

No way I am taking Young, fantastic accuracy but as noted, is small and will eventually get destroyed by DL's and it will turn him into a skittish guy that will burn out in a short career.

If the Colts don't get a QB, OT, or trade down for a shit ton of picks I'll be furious.

I can even get the argument for a pass rusher, but man, the QB and line are by far what needs the most help now.

I Think Rainnman has played pretty well and I don't think we need to use a top 5 pick on an OT.

If one of the QB's they want are there take them. if not trade the pick or draft BPA Hopefully an edge rusher

I wouldn't be opposed to trading back and grabbing BPA and getting a QB next year, or even following year. There are some decent ones this draft, but all of them have shortcomings that realistically put them in 2-3 year window to be ready to be the "Man"

I think we can trade slightly back and still get Richardson or Hooker in the second and still a good player with the traded pick.

I am not very good at predicting the draft so take it for what its worth

Where does this rep that CJ Stroud gets for not being able to go off script come from? Is it because he normally doesn't run the ball when things break down, buts keeps his eyes downfield and looks to make plays with his arm instead? Because there's a guy in Green Bay that's made himself a pretty good career out of doing that.

BTW, Chrome your breakdowns are pretty spot on minus the part about Stroud being a bad improviser. Anthony Richardson has Cam Newton upside and Trace McSorley downside.

If that's the case I don't want him.

Chromes analysis on Stroud meets my biggest concern.

OSU’s receiver room has been STACKED the last couple of years. They look like the recruiting class from an old NCAA football game on a PlayStation 2.

He looked good against UGA but as soon as Jr was knocked out of the game, the difference was clear. UGA is also built like the old Alabama teams. Very beefy and nasty front 7, not exceptionally skilled in the secondary. It was a good matchup for Stroud, and he played well enough, but I expected that.

This makes me nervous. Honestly, I’m content with getting Anderson so we can lock in this defensive front with him and Paye, picking up a QB later, and trying to make sure we have the draft capital go get a no brainer pick in the future.

If the Colts manage to lose to HOU this week, which I'm unsure of, it seems to me the only outcome that really matters is the DEN-LAC game. DEN's pick (3rd) belongs to SEA and even though Geno Smith is having a decent year (good numbers at least), he's 32 and has bad history. So they'd likely snatch the second QB.

Other than that, CHI (2nd) and ARZ (4th) don't seem like they'll go QB. If we beat HOU and LAR lose to SF, then DET leapfrogs us as they own LAR's pick.

That's an interesting scenario because after a slow start, DET has won 7 of 9, could end up with a winning season, and could sneak into the playoffs. I haven't watched much of them, but Jared Goff is only 28 and at least statistically has had a good year (29tds, 7ints, 4200yds, 100.1rat).

So even if DET does leapfrog us, they probably want one of these top-5 DL.

Goff has played well this year. He has played exceptionally good football since they went on their streak. It also coincides with him being protected better by his line. Funny how a good o-line improves an offense. lol. Ours is beyond atrocious.

Stroud played well against Georgia, but it is just a small sampling. Is this his breakout game where he leaves his detractors behind, or is this an anomaly to his usual big game less than average play? Who knows. Are the Colts willing to bank the future of this franchise on it? That is my biggest difference between him and Levis. Stroud had blue chip players surrounding him. Levis made mediocre 2nd. tier players around him better. Footwork is easier to fix than mental defaults. I hope Houston drafts Young. He will set them back and that is a bonus for us.

With Stroud and Levis being the perceived best two QB's this draft (My Opinion) I am ok with trading back and picking up an additional 2nd. this year, or even a 2nd. and 4th. next year. Good QB's yes, but none I would mortgage this franchise for. There is also no guarantee we get a shot at a top QB next year. If we can get an additional pick this year by trading back, fuck it, take McConnel with the additional 2nd. and do something with our pass rush and o-line.

Heads would explode, I know, but I don't want them to take a guy unless they are absolutely sold on him. They may be and that'd be great.

But I don't like feeling overly needy and cashing in a blue chip draft pick on a non-blue chip guy. Not to directly compare this year's class with these guys, but it terrifies me to spend a top 3-5 pick on a Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker, Blake Bortles, Mitch Trubisky... and meanwhile miss out on a Will Anderson type guy.

Nature of the gamble I suppose.

I would trade as many picks as I could for next years draft and try to have multiple 1st's

Caleb Williams is the real deal and so much better than any QB in this yrs draft

Good luck getting a quality coach to come here under those circumstances (all in for a high draft pick next year). If Williams is that good nobody is going to trade his pick so you would need to be the worst team in the league to have a legit shot at him. No thank you. We need to turn this damn thing around now, at least that needs to be the attitude. In this NFL it can be done.

I'll do one for the next tier. I think Hooker's injury takes him out of the first consideration. But I think we use our first on a QB unless there is a run before we pick.

The coach will be here before the draft

If they can trade back and still get their QB of choice, is that not a win win?

If they don't think the top QBs are franchise material and Raimann can man the spot longterm. Still a blue-chip LT is very tempting.

The pass rushers and DL at the top of this draft are great. A deep CB draft as well.

Of course. I'll clarify where I quoted Love2Fish. I agree with him. I'm good with trading back as well if they aren't truly sold on a QB at a top 3-5 pick.

Trading for a haul or drafting a true blue-chip are superior options. If it somehow worked out that after a trade back the QB was still available at a more reasonable spot, great.

Stroud might be the guy this year that is overanalyzed because he has been around so long. Usually someone every year. From what draft analysts seem to say teams seem to be split on him, some teams love him, and others like him but want more. The rep on him is that he isn't much of a creator when the play breaks down. That he is great when in a structure and throwing in rhythm but if things break down and he gets under pressure his game devolves. Now some of these criticisms have continued over from last year. Its hard to get people past their initial impressions of a player.

https://www.landgrantholyland.com/20...ce-oregon-2021

https://youtu.be/TIJJ2Z1qnfM

But he might have silenced some of his critics after the playoff game. And of course after Saturday's game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18kb7UJHI1I

Thing is, players evolve, has he shown enough lately? Don't know. Might be the Texans are considering him for 1 as well.

Incidentally, I think Stroud might be my QB 1 now because you can't teach size and I value accuracy above just about everything else. I think his throwing would be excellent with our tall receivers who need tight over-the-shoulder throws to take advantage of their size. But I'm starting to think the Colts will be picking between Levis and Richardson.

Richardson could be a Cam Newton, that's his ceiling I think. I just don't often use comps because then fans project that guys career onto the draftee when it is just a stylistic match. For example, if I say Levis reminds me of Wentz in some ways fans might then go "No way, don't want Wentz 2.0." But there were some good things about Wentz, particularly before the injury. Also, I think a lot of what ails Wentz is in his head because athletically; that guy is gifted.

Watch him. I don't care how stacked the receiver room is if he makes play after play in a similar fashion to Aaron Rodgers. That type of playmaking ability doesn't just evaporate as receiver quality diminishes, and it was on full display against the best defense he could've possibly faced.

So… anyone worried that Stroud hasn’t declared yet? He has till the 16th to declare.

It is kind of odd. I wonder if he's worried about being a Texican?