Colts meeting room.

Ballard: Who wants traded?
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Ballard: Oh shit!!!!

Any word about Moss yet? Has he joined the team or did he go Greyhound from Buffalo to Indianapolis? We'll probably need him on Sunday.

He flew to indianapolis the day of the trade but in a short week probably won’t see playing time, look for a lot of Jackson with Lindsay and Wilkins to spell relief because Wilkins familiar with the offense

I forgot about Wilkins.

Moss is supposed to be excellent in pass blocking, so he may see action.

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Colts’ Zack Moss ...... Productive Rushing Day in Loss

(By RotoWire Staff)

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/fo...g-day-in-loss/





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Did the conditions get met for the 6th?

Never saw what the conditions were. I read a rumor a while back on a Bills forum that as long as he doesn't get injured we get a 5th.

No idea if that's true, but never saw anything official.

I’d say we got the best of this trade. Moss has been a reasonable backup and Hines has continued to do nothing in Buffalo except catch 1 pass a game and run for negative yards.

I'm surprised he hasn't fumbled a punt return yet....maybe tonight?

Meanwhile TY went 4 for 50 for the boys.

Think we coulda used him?

Nope, he cant play LG

If he was on any team other than the Cowboys (and the Bucs or Patriots) I'd be rooting for their team to win the Superbowl this year.

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Moss ended the 2022 season with his best game overall ...... 18 rushes for 114 yards and 1 TD, good for 6.3 yards-per-carry.



Zack Moss Goes Out ‘With a Bang’ in Career Day Against Texans

(By Andrew Walker)

https://www.colts.com/news/zack-moss...s-2022-week-18

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Zack Moss is a keeper, the trade worked out for both teams and both players!

What was up with Hines on offense this year?

I heard something earlier today on a clip from a show (Chris Simms maybe?)... anyway, they mentioned that Nyheim Hines only had 4 offensive snaps against the Bengals.

I hadn't looked up his numbers since he was a Colt, and man, I thought he was underutilized with us. But he had 11 games with BUF and had 5 rec for 53yds and 6 rushes for -3 yds... total. With the Colts, he was 3rd, 2nd, 1st, and 2nd in receptions in his first four years.

Look at these offensive snap counts in BUF: 4, 6, 10, 4, 23, 10, 3, 3, 3, 10, 4.

I know he had some success as a return man, but he did some punt returning for us when he was here and still contributed on offense. As much as I expected him to break out with Matt Ryan, and then again with Josh Allen... he instead was almost abandoned on offense. Really surprising.

Couldn't learn the offense?
The Bills don't run the ball anyway?

Maybe he couldn't learn it. Although he always seemed pretty bright and he jumped right in as a rookie. But maybe. Of course we thought he was underused here as well.

Bills ranked 15th in rush att., 7th in rush yards. Not as unbalanced as I would've thought. And Hines wasn't catching the ball, either. Whatever, just another weird thing about a weird fucking season.

Yea makes sense request a trade to a team that uses you even less

I had high hopes for Hines, oh well. I guess the grass isn't always greener.

I like Hines a bunch....but not how the Colts used him.

Sorry, but I point to Reich almost 100% for the failure to use Hines as he could have been used.

"Look, we have Jonathan Taylor who is one of the best between the tackles running backs in the league. Let's script 85% of our rush attempts to be between the tackles."

"Look, we have Hines who is terrible running between the tackles. But, since we have JT doing it, we will have NH do it as well. So what that he only averages 1.1 yards between the tackles!"

When I look at Hines, I see a Darrel Sproles type back. That dude fricking killed the Colts for years with swing passes, short delayed crossing routes, pitch toss to the corner, etc. The Charges got him out in space and he was like a greased pig.

But our offensive staff, to include the HC, could not be bothered with putting in plays that specifically to work with Hines strength. Instead, on 1st and 10? Hines up the middle for 1.1 yards.

I hope that having a camp with the Bills in 2023 will increase his touches because he is a great weapon...if used correctly.

The conditional draft pick has been settled.

The Bills will be sending the Colts a 5th Round draft pick to complete the Hines / Moss trade.


https://twitter.com/SalSports/status...00454768508934

Are they just not going to explain what the conditions were?

I wonder if Hines will decide to stay in Buffalo.

The Bills will certainly want to restructure his existing contract. They would probably offer him some guaranteed money for lowering his cap values in 2023 and 2024.

Or if he wants out, he could decline the restructure talks and the Bills will likely cut him (zero dead cap hit).

It could be his first time as a free agent and the opportunity to choose where to llve / play.

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Good ...... now we can take CJ Stroud in the 5th round, after we take 4 offensive linemen in the first 4 rounds.

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Since the Colts received the better draft pick (it was either going to be a 5th or a 6th), and considering how little Hines played on offense in Buffalo, the conditions were probably based on how many games he was Active and playing.

That's almost certainly the case. Unless it's something to do with BUF's draft position or something. I just don't understand why it's a big secret.

Or maybe most of these conditional transactions are like this and I just never paid attention. The 5th is good news, though.

It's not that uncommon for the details of the conditional terms to be omitted from reporting for trades involving later round draft picks.

Another example would be the Colts-Jets trade involving Nate Hairston.

There was some type of condition that was never met (and never reported at the time of the trade). Ultimately, the Colts received no compensation from that trade:

https://nypost.com/2020/02/20/jets-h...ially-thought/

Unfortunately for Hines and the Bills, it won't happen in 2023.

Hines suffered a significant knee injury off site before training camp even started.

Expected to miss the entire season.

Hopefully the Colts can get through camp and pre-season without too many injuries.


https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...54732227039233

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...18344765358080

Man, poor guy can't catch a break.

While I probably wouldn't be messing around on jet skis if I were a professional athlete, it appears he was just sitting on one and was crashed into. Fucking sucks.

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Hines' most recent injury just made the trade look even better for the Colts.

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Did the Colts get that 2023 6th?

Yes, the Colts received a draft pick from this trade.

It was a conditional draft pick - the conditions were met and the pick was upgraded to a 5th instead (Pick 162).

The Colts selected TE Will Mallory with the pick.

Could be a costly injury for Hines:


https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...ootball-injury

By: Mike Florio

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Zack Moss Embodies Colts’ Mentality With Gritty, Career-Best Showing in Week 3 Win Over Ravens

(By J.J. Stankevitz)

https://www.colts.com/news/zack-moss...ball-touchdown




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Jets are apparently signing Trevor Siemian. Ouch. There goes any talk of trading them Minchew.

Steichen wasn't going to let Minshew leave Richardson. I think he's real big on him as a teammate. And obviously you can do worse at backup QB.

Broadway Joe is 100% right in his condemnation. The whole franchise needs to be shit canned- Trevor Siemian, and you have every other ingredient for a SB. Gimme 500 Ballard's to that bullshit!

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In my rat's ass of an opinion, the combination of Jonathan Taylor and Zach Moss may very well be as good as the combination of ) Mercury Morris and Larry Csonka, ) the first time ever in which a team had two 1,000-rayd rushers (1972.)





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