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Oldcolt 09-29-2022 08:55 AM

Pinter has looked like shit, so has the entire line but my question is why? I find it difficult to believe that he is to weak to play guard. He has issues with bull rushes as has been pointed out, but if that was the only issue on this line we would be flying. JT has been a stud at pass protection in the past, he is built like a rock and has zero fear. He is the real deal. Until this group plays like a unit it is impossible to say that one guy is the issue. When you have 7-8 guys (I include our QB, RB and TE) who are not on the same page the biggest culprit is coaching. They (the line) don’t seem to know what the fuck they are supposed to do in relation to each other. Weird because that was a strong point for this staff and unit until recently. Not giving up on this group yet but sure not getting excited about them.

MeSayDayo 09-29-2022 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 241671)
I respectively disagree. If a guy helps you win a Super Bowl and Addai definitely did that, it's not a wasted draft pick.

Fair point, and perhaps I referred strongly to it being a wasted pick. I would probably say that he wasn't worthy of a first rounder though.

Discflinger 09-29-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 241663)
Who was the Patsies poster who said that Addai was nothing more than a gangly 3rd down back and that Maroney was far superior?

Ah, the famous local scout report.

ChaosTheory 09-29-2022 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MeSayDayo (Post 241669)
Ultimately, Addai was definitely a wasted first round pick even if he contributed in that Superbowl with like 10 catches. In hindsight, we should have just resigned Edge. He went on to having another good 4 years in the league.

I'd loved to have kept Edge, and Polian wanted to keep him, but they couldn't do it with the size (length) that Edge wanted and deserved.

Manning and Harrison alone were already like 25% of the cap, prime Reggie needed to be signed that same off-season and they knew in the near future guys in their prime like Freeney, Mathis, Clark, Sanders, etc. would need contracts.

There was also an upward trend in RB-by-committee happening. For what it's worth: Rhodes + Addai rushed for more yards in 2006 than Edge + Rhodes did in 2005. And together their salaries were like half of what Edge ended up getting in ARZ.

JAFF 09-29-2022 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 241699)
I'd loved to have kept Edge, and Polian wanted to keep him, but they couldn't do it with the size (length) that Edge wanted and deserved.

Manning and Harrison alone were already like 25% of the cap, prime Reggie needed to be signed that same off-season and they knew in the near future guys in their prime like Freeney, Mathis, Clark, Sanders, etc. would need contracts.

There was also an upward trend in RB-by-committee happening. For what it's worth: Rhodes + Addai rushed for more yards in 2006 than Edge + Rhodes did in 2005. And together their salaries were like half of what Edge ended up getting in ARZ.

The cap was created to redistribute talent, and it worked

omahacolt 09-29-2022 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 241724)
The cap was created to redistribute talent, and it worked

thanks captain obvious. so happy you pointed this out for all of us

Dam8610 09-29-2022 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 241660)
edge was a fucking man. he lit dudes up in pass pro. addai was pretty damn good as well.

Did you forget you and almost everyone else here calling him "candy ass" Addai?

JAFF 09-29-2022 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 241739)
thanks captain obvious. so happy you pointed this out for all of us

There are some who ignore that. Wait until the end of the season and people want to buy every free agent available

YDFL Commish 09-29-2022 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 241748)
Did you forget you and almost everyone else here calling him "candy ass" Addai?

To be fair, there was a season or two that he ran very timidly.

Chromeburn 09-30-2022 09:44 AM

The Eagles are what we are trying to be. But to do that you have to consistently spend high picks on your lines. They also invested in WRs.

MeSayDayo 09-30-2022 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 241788)
The Eagles are what we are trying to be. But to do that you have to consistently spend high picks on your lines. They also invested in WRs.

If we were trying that hard to be the Eagles, we wouldn't have an immobile QB am I right? They are lightyears ahead of us in explosive ability, and may have two receivers that might be better than our best

rcubed 09-30-2022 01:03 PM

We are dead last in points scored thus far this season.

Chromeburn 10-01-2022 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MeSayDayo (Post 241803)
If we were trying that hard to be the Eagles, we wouldn't have an immobile QB am I right? They are lightyears ahead of us in explosive ability, and may have two receivers that might be better than our best

I’m talking about the lines and their investment in the lines. Notice they are spending high round draft picks every year. We have a couple then low round picks. Notice the Eagles are beating people but they are whooping them on the lines.

YDFL Commish 10-01-2022 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 241875)
I’m talking about the lines and their investment in the lines. Notice they are spending high round draft picks every year. We have a couple then low round picks. Notice the Eagles are beating people but they are whooping them on the lines.

The fact that we are starting 5th and 6th round picks is what is holding this OL back.

omahacolt 10-01-2022 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 241748)
Did you forget you and almost everyone else here calling him "candy ass" Addai?

i have never called anyone "candy ass" that i recall

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 10-01-2022 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 241875)
I’m talking about the lines and their investment in the lines. Notice they are spending high round draft picks every year. We have a couple then low round picks. Notice the Eagles are beating people but they are whooping them on the lines.


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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 241877)
The fact that we are starting 5th and 6th round picks is what is holding this OL back.


FWIW - The Eagles are currently starting both a former 7th Round Draft Pick at LT (Jordan Mailata) and a former 6th Round Draft Pick at C (Jason Kelce)

Brylok 10-01-2022 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 241811)
We are dead last in points scored thus far this season.

Our offense stinks. KC just kept shooting themselves in the foot all game last week starting with the opening kickoff, and finishing with Jones' penalty flag at the end.

Chromeburn 10-01-2022 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 241877)
The fact that we are starting 5th and 6th round picks is what is holding this OL back.

I think it’s the lack of a solid replacement for the LT position. As soon as Castonzo hinted at retirement we should have been drafting a replacement. The Eagles have had some bad seasons though which help their draft position and quality plus our draft picks as well.

A high pick for Q, then a second rounder for Smith. After that it’s been low round picks and journey men for us.

Chromeburn 10-01-2022 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 241881)
FWIW - The Eagles are currently starting both a former 7th Round Draft Pick at LT (Jordan Mailata) and a former 6th Round Draft Pick at C (Jason Kelce)

https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../phi/draft.htm

They drafted Andre Dilliard 22 overall to hopefully be a future LT. It’s just tremendous luck that Mailata has become what he has.

Chromeburn 10-01-2022 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 241894)
Our offense stinks. KC just kept shooting themselves in the foot all game last week starting with the opening kickoff, and finishing with Jones' penalty flag at the end.

I think things will solidify if the oline can get its protection sorted. Everything I’ve listened to in the last two weeks says it should get better as the season goes along because it’s mostly communication. Just will Matt Ryan survive that long?

Colts And Orioles 10-06-2022 10:22 AM

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(vs. BRONCOS, 10/06)


Prior to their loss to the Raiders on Sunday, the Broncos' defense led the league in points allowed, at 11 points per game (33 overall.)

That said, they gave up 25 of the 32 points that were scored against the previously-winless Raiders 4 days ago ...... after a disastrous first 4 games of the season, will the Colts' offensive line finally have at least a decent game tonight on ) Thursday Night Football ???

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Colts And Orioles 10-07-2022 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 242922)
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(vs. BRONCOS, 10/06)


Prior to their loss to the Raiders on Sunday, the Broncos' defense led the league in points allowed, at 11 points per game (33 overall.)

That said, they gave up 25 of the 32 points that were scored against them vs. the previously-winless Raiders just 4 days ago ...... after a disastrous first 4 games of the season, will the Colts' offensive line finally have at least a decent game tonight on ) Thursday Night Football ???

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I thought that at most, there may have been a slight improvement on the offensive line as compared to the first 4 games of the season ...... but that isn't saying much, considering how awful they were in those first 4 games.

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Chromeburn 10-07-2022 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MeSayDayo (Post 241803)
If we were trying that hard to be the Eagles, we wouldn't have an immobile QB am I right? They are lightyears ahead of us in explosive ability, and may have two receivers that might be better than our best

We had a mobile QB last year. We drafted Sam who is a very mobile QB. If there was a good mobile QB I’m sure we would have looked at him.

The difference is their consistent high investment in the oline and their development of Hurts. We stopped after Nelson and Smith. You can’t stop and you need to also use FA. Our dline looks good finally.

CanuckColt 10-07-2022 07:21 PM

Great Colts O-line...Ryan Kelly is done, period...Smith has regressed a lot...and Q is starting to regress.
All have got large $$$ and are now playing safe trying to collect those $$$ for as long as they can while doing the minimum that they can.

ChoppedWood 10-07-2022 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CanuckColt (Post 243688)
Great Colts O-line...Ryan Kelly is done, period...Smith has regressed a lot...and Q is starting to regress.
All have got large $$$ and are now playing safe trying to collect those $$$ for as long as they can while doing the minimum that they can.

This is going to sound so sort of whacko but to me, it looks like Q's legs have shrunk. In the past it seemed like he was sort of this pear body with his belly, waist, and thighs all just being one big connected mass.

Looking at him now it seems like his legs are too skinny relative to his torso. He doesn't appear to have as much power as he once did.

YDFL Commish 10-08-2022 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 243704)
This is going to sound so sort of whacko but to me, it looks like Q's legs have shrunk. In the past it seemed like he was sort of this pear body with his belly, waist, and thighs all just being one big connected mass.

Looking at him now it seems like his legs are too skinny relative to his torso. He doesn't appear to have as much power as he once did.

I dunno, but that's the 2nd time I've seen Q rag dolled this season.

JAFF 10-08-2022 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 243704)
This is going to sound so sort of whacko but to me, it looks like Q's legs have shrunk. In the past it seemed like he was sort of this pear body with his belly, waist, and thighs all just being one big connected mass.

Looking at him now it seems like his legs are too skinny relative to his torso. He doesn't appear to have as much power as he once did.

Its wacko

Picture from this year

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2022/9/...lion-extension

Colts And Orioles 10-25-2022 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 241364)
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NFL Week 3 Takeaways: Lessons, Big Questions for Every Game

(Stephen Holder, NFL Nation)


What to know: ) The Colts' offensive struggles continued against Kansas City, but Indianapolis overcame a recurring early-season theme to notch their best moment of the season for coach Frank Reich and quarterback Matt Ryan. After buckling under the Chiefs' blitzes all day, the Colts managed to mount a game-winning drive, upset the Chiefs and move to 1-1-1.

Can the Colts create any offensive consistency despite their blocking issues ??? ) The Colts have endured more offensive line struggles this season than at any other point in Reich's tenure with the team. As a result, the immobile Ryan (five sacks) is having a difficult time dealing with the consistent pressure, evidenced by his seven fumbles -- the most through three games since Mike Vick had seven in 2011. To create any consistency, the Colts are going to have to truly stabilize things up front.


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-team-outlooks

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(ONE MONTH LATER)


If their offensive line had been even average this season, the Colts would be one of the best teams in the NFL ...... and if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

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