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JAFF 07-20-2022 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 234197)
The majority is not the woke liberal dumb fuck socialists. They do whine and cry the most, but by no means are they the majority. Biden bent the knee to these crybabies and now according to his poll numbers, they don't like the job he is doing. Here's a thought, in Canada, you can't even use a gun to defend yourself, hell move there.

https://www.westernstandard.news/new...92fd91edd.html

Not exactly true, but a nice try

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has told listeners of an American podcast that firearm owners in Canada don’t have the right to use their weapon in self-defence.

Trudeau made the comment on the Crooked Media podcast in Los Angeles where he was attending the Summit of the Americas.

“We have a culture where the difference is guns can be used for hunting or for sport shooting in Canada and there’s lots of gun owners and they’re mostly law respecting and law abiding.”

“But you can’t use a gun for self-protection in Canada, that’s not a right that you have, in the constitution or anywhere else.”

“If you try and buy a gun and say it’s for self protection, no, you don’t get that. You can say it’s for hunting, you can get it for sport shooting, you can take it to the range. No problem. As long as you go through our rigorous background checks.”

“But there’s a difference around the culture and one of the things we are seeing with the debate in the States is you get more and more of the American-style right-to-carry, self-defence arguments filtering up through the usual more right-wing communications channel.”

In fact, numerous Canadian gun owners have used their weapons for self-defence over the years.

Trudeau is attempting to bring in a total handgun freeze in Canada, announced shortly after mass shootings in Uvalde, Texas and Buffalo.


Spike 07-20-2022 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234200)

Those were the exact same fucking words that came out of his mouth.

It's even in the 1st fucking sentence in the post you made.

Trudeau says Canadian gun owners can't use them for self-defence

What are you even trying to say Jaff? Am I missing something here, please explain.

JAFF 07-20-2022 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 234204)
Those were the exact same fucking words that came out of his mouth.

It's even in the 1st fucking sentence in the post you made.

Trudeau says Canadian gun owners can't use them for self-defence

What are you even trying to say Jaff? Am I missing something here, please explain.

Pass the background check. Pass it, and tell them the gun is for duck season. Doesnt keep you from buying a gun.

Spike 07-20-2022 05:42 PM

It's no wonder why so many people are purchasing guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfI79E6GZVs

Spike 07-20-2022 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234205)
Pass the background check. Pass it, and tell them the gun is for duck season. Doesnt keep you from buying a gun.

So basically just tell a lie, wackos are the ones who are going to lie. I didn't buy a gun for hunting or sport shooting. I bought it for home self defense. Liberals just think lying is ok. SMDH. Your argument is all fucked up.

And you say nice try to me?

JAFF 07-20-2022 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 234208)
So basically just tell a lie, wackos are the ones who are going to lie. I didn't buy a gun for hunting or sport shooting. I bought it for home self defense. Liberals just think lying is ok. SMDH. Your argument is all fucked up.

And you say nice try to me?

I didnt say anything. You can buy a gun in canada. Their PM said so. What you do with it is on you.

https://www.kruselaw.ca/library/usin...-kruse-law.cfm

Spike 07-20-2022 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234209)
I didnt say anything. You can buy a gun in canada. Their PM said so. What you do with it is on you.

You're just playing around with your words now. IN CANADA YOU CAN NOT BUY OR USE A GUN FOR SELF DEFENSE.

Ok, so you buy a gun by lying. Then you have to use it for self defense and that is against Canadian law now. Now you are fucked, do you get put in prison for murder?

Are you in favor of breaking laws Jaff?

Stop being a hypocrite.

omahacolt 07-20-2022 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 234098)
I guarandamntee you the shooter didn’t expect someone with a gun to be there. Cowards like that won’t strike where they think anyone will fight back. That’s why no one ever shoots up a gun shop or an NRA convention.

These worms WANT defenseless people so they can kill as many as possible.

This incident should be taught everywhere as the perfect way to respond to an active shooter situation. This kid engaged the shooter from a distance, poured 10 rounds into him, while motioning for people near him to get to safety.

Outstanding. The kid deserves a medal.

guns are banned from nra conventions. which i find really weird

JAFF 07-20-2022 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 234211)
You're just playing around with your words now. IN CANADA YOU CAN NOT BUY OR USE A GUN FOR SELF DEFENSE.

Ok, so you buy a gun by lying. Then you have to use it for self defense and that is against Canadian law now. Now you are fucked, do you get put in prison for murder?

Are you in favor of breaking laws Jaff?

Stop being a hypocrite.

Go up above your post and click on the link

omahacolt 07-20-2022 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 234165)
Most gun crime is committed with handguns but it’s the scary “assault weapons” that get all the attention.

If I believed for a single second that a ban on AR’s would be the end of it, I’d be inclined to support such a ban. But it wouldn’t be, because the weapon itself is not the problem.

The problem, as I said before, is a society that is creating these people.

So we get rid of AR’s and then when the next shooting happens, which it inevitably will, the same people will be back saying “we have to do something”. And on and on it goes.

So no, f**k that noise.

i don't mind guns


but this is an america problem. other countries don't have this issue.

JAFF 07-20-2022 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 234213)
guns are banned from nra conventions. which i find really weird

Really? Bunch of armed hot heads, liquor and general male stupidity there would be a blood bath

JAFF 07-20-2022 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 234215)
i don't mind guns


but this is an america problem. other countries don't have this issue.

Stop making sense

omahacolt 07-20-2022 06:55 PM

mass shooting are a major issue in this country. i don't know the answer to solve the problem


but i do know, not trying to correct the problem does absolutely nothing. in every scenario of your lives, when we have a problem, we fix it or try and fix it.

except with guns. we just say thoughts and prayers and try and sell kids bulletproof backpacks

JAFF 07-20-2022 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 234219)
mass shooting are a major issue in this country. I don't know the answer to solve the problem


but i do know, not trying to correct the problem does absolutely nothing. In every scenario of your lives, when we have a problem, we fix it or try and fix it.

Except with guns. We just say thoughts and prayers and try and sell kids bulletproof backpacks

stop making sense. Killing me smalls

Racehorse 07-20-2022 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 234215)
i don't mind guns


but this is an america problem. other countries don't have this issue.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ate-by-country
Gun deaths may be higher (debatable), but murders are not. Murders are the real problem, whether by gun or other means.

Spike 07-20-2022 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234214)
Go up above your post and click on the link

From what you posted from that link.

If you try and buy a gun and say it’s for self protection, no, you don’t get that. You can say it’s for hunting, you can get it for sport shooting, you can take it to the range. No problem. As long as you go through our rigorous background checks.

So what you are alluding to is to say I want the gun for sport shooting even though what you are really buying it for is self defense. Just fucking lie and get it for what you really want it for. Everyone will just lie then, especially the wackos. If the PM of Canada thinks otherwise, then he is dumber than a fence post.

Lov2fish 07-20-2022 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234198)
Thanks for proving my point. There is no room for absolutism, and those who resist change usually wind up on the outside looking in

I will end my participation with this. They should send people like you to disarm me. If you lack the balls, and I am sure that is true enough, then they had better send single brave men.

JAFF 07-20-2022 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 234224)
From what you posted from that link.

If you try and buy a gun and say it’s for self protection, no, you don’t get that. You can say it’s for hunting, you can get it for sport shooting, you can take it to the range. No problem. As long as you go through our rigorous background checks.

So what you are alluding to is to say I want the gun for sport shooting even though what you are really buying it for is self defense. Just fucking lie and get it for what you really want it for. Everyone will just lie then, especially the wackos. If the PM of Canada thinks otherwise, then he is dumber than a fence post.

https://www.kruselaw.ca/library/usin...-kruse-law.cfm

Try that, I posted it to you earlier. Its what the law says

Hoopsdoc 07-21-2022 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 234213)
guns are banned from nra conventions. which i find really weird

They weren’t banned from the 2022 convention, except for during Trumps speech, which is standard secret service protocol for current and former presidents. Not sure where you got your info.

https://www.nraam.org/attend/firearms-policy/

Hoopsdoc 07-21-2022 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 234219)
mass shooting are a major issue in this country. i don't know the answer to solve the problem


but i do know, not trying to correct the problem does absolutely nothing. in every scenario of your lives, when we have a problem, we fix it or try and fix it.

except with guns. we just say thoughts and prayers and try and sell kids bulletproof backpacks

I have a fundamental problem with passing laws to solve a problem created by people who pay no attention to the laws in the first place.

It’s ridiculous. I’d have more respect for people if they just came out and said “we’re taking ALL the guns because some people break the law with them”.

That’s what the goal really is.

omahacolt 07-21-2022 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 234234)
They weren’t banned from the 2022 convention, except for during Trumps speech, which is standard secret service protocol for current and former presidents. Not sure where you got your info.

https://www.nraam.org/attend/firearms-policy/

i think Jaff told me lol

omahacolt 07-21-2022 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 234235)
I have a fundamental problem with passing laws to solve a problem created by people who pay no attention to the laws in the first place.

It’s ridiculous. I’d have more respect for people if they just came out and said “we’re taking ALL the guns because some people break the law with them”.

That’s what the goal really is.

but isn't that pretty much every criminal activity?

Spike 07-21-2022 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234214)
Go up above your post and click on the link

Here is some of the content of the article you are referencing.

1. "In Canada, the use of firearms for defence of self or property is generally prohibited by law".

That's pretty fucking clear to me. I know it states generally, but that leaves the door wipe open for that dictator to fuck over his citizens.

2. "This means grabbing an intruder or burglar and knocking them down would be a reasonable defence, but shooting them would be deemed unreasonable".

This statement is just fucking dumb. What would you do Jaff, grab and knock down the intruder? What if he ended up kicking your ass, which based on your posts is a damn good possibility. Don't know if you have children or not, but are you willing to take this chance?

Most of that shit the PM is trying to spew out is complete bullshit.

Thank God in America, we don't have to give a reason for wanting to own a gun. I hope I never have to use mine and I won't unless there is a real threat of harm to my family.

Liberals may never comprehend this unless they are put in a life or death situation.

JAFF 07-21-2022 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 234264)

Most of that shit the PM is trying to spew out is complete bullshit.

.

You and he would get along, having something in common. :)

Spike 07-21-2022 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234271)
You and he would get along, having something in common. :)

I have nothing in common with you stupid fucking liberal hacks. You should be thankful that my dad, uncles and myself fought for your freedom so you could be the dicks you are today, saddens me really.

JAFF 07-21-2022 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 234281)
I have nothing in common with you stupid fucking liberal hacks. You should be thankful that my dad, uncles and myself fought for your freedom so you could be the dicks you are today, saddens me really.

I have voted in presidential elections since 1976, and never have I voted for a liberal candidate for president.

I have voted for democrats at the local, state and congress from time to time. I knew them as neighbors and in one case I reach out for help and the congressman responded and was helpful.

I oppose trump because he is a criminal. He put this country at risk and only for his own gain. I feel the same way about Bill and Hillary. They should share a cell with donnie in a federal prison.

This is about politics, wake up. Its about MONEY. Donnie is going broke and he gets a free ride as president. He is fund raising without announcing his intent to run, which is a crime. Hes using the stop the steal donations to pay his personal bills. Wake up, he is a con man at the end of his rope.

Spike 07-22-2022 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234290)
I have voted in presidential elections since 1976, and never have I voted for a liberal candidate for president.

I have voted for democrats at the local, state and congress from time to time. I knew them as neighbors and in one case I reach out for help and the congressman responded and was helpful.

I oppose trump because he is a criminal. He put this country at risk and only for his own gain. I feel the same way about Bill and Hillary. They should share a cell with donnie in a federal prison.

This is about politics, wake up. Its about MONEY. Donnie is going broke and he gets a free ride as president. He is fund raising without announcing his intent to run, which is a crime. Hes using the stop the steal donations to pay his personal bills. Wake up, he is a con man at the end of his rope.

Trump's net worth is 3 Billion Dollars. How is he going broke?

You're quality of life was better under Trump than the imbeciles we have now.

Most politicians go in poor as church mice and come out multi-millionaires, so who are the real criminals Jaff? I think it is you who need to wake the fuck up.

I can't stand the direction this country is going in, it's fucking pathetic.

JAFF 07-22-2022 09:43 PM

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...st-legal-cases

Everybody plus the irs is going to collect

Spike 07-22-2022 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234343)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...st-legal-cases

Everybody plus the irs is going to collect

Even if everyone is going after his money, how does that really affect you?

You have a serious DTS disease Jaff. You may not like the man, but he was way better for this country than Biden, that's an undeniable fucking fact. Maybe you need to stop watching CNN and The View.
You got nothing to say about how your quality of life was better under Trump?

Hoopsdoc 07-23-2022 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234290)
I have voted in presidential elections since 1976, and never have I voted for a liberal candidate for president.

I have voted for democrats at the local, state and congress from time to time. I knew them as neighbors and in one case I reach out for help and the congressman responded and was helpful.

I oppose trump because he is a criminal. He put this country at risk and only for his own gain. I feel the same way about Bill and Hillary. They should share a cell with donnie in a federal prison.

This is about politics, wake up. Its about MONEY. Donnie is going broke and he gets a free ride as president. He is fund raising without announcing his intent to run, which is a crime. Hes using the stop the steal donations to pay his personal bills. Wake up, he is a con man at the end of his rope.

Biden has spent 50 years getting rich off of American taxpayers. In terms of percentage, he’s gained a lot more than Donnie did.

In the 70’s, he used the power of the government to fight desegregation. More recently, he said if you don’t vote for him, you ain’t black.

Yet, the media has convinced people that Trump is the racist con man.

It’s amazing, really.

Racehorse 07-23-2022 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234290)
I have voted in presidential elections since 1976, and never have I voted for a liberal candidate for president.

I have voted for democrats at the local, state and congress from time to time. I knew them as neighbors and in one case I reach out for help and the congressman responded and was helpful.

These two paragraphs are disingenuous. All of your talking points are liberal talking points, and yet you claim to not vote for them. Either you just do not vote, or you are lying here.

Spike 07-23-2022 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 234348)
Biden has spent 50 years getting rich off of American taxpayers. In terms of percentage, he’s gained a lot more than Donnie did.

In the 70’s, he used the power of the government to fight desegregation. More recently, he said if you don’t vote for him, you ain’t black.

Yet, the media has convinced people that Trump is the racist con man.

It’s amazing, really.

A whole lot of minorities are turning on Biden now. People are fed up with this administration. Poll numbers show that.

JAFF 07-23-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 234346)
Even if everyone is going after his money, how does that really affect you?

You have a serious DTS disease Jaff. You may not like the man, but he was way better for this country than Biden, that's an undeniable fucking fact. Maybe you need to stop watching CNN and The View.
You got nothing to say about how your quality of life was better under Trump?

Trump betrayed this country on 1-6. How can you not see that

JAFF 07-23-2022 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 234351)
These two paragraphs are disingenuous. All of your talking points are liberal talking points, and yet you claim to not vote for them. Either you just do not vote, or you are lying here.

Its not an all or nothing world. I know good people in both parties in my county and state. I like and approve of the governor of Indiana. The attorney general of Indiana is an idiot, shitty lawyer, and a self centered a hole. I will never vote for him.

Donald Trump is not a republican, he is only for himself. Do you think Regan, Bush I, Bush Ii, Ford, would sit and watch a mob storm the capitol, and do nothing?

Racehorse 07-23-2022 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234354)
Its not an all or nothing world. I know good people in both parties in my county and state. I like and approve of the governor of Indiana. The attorney general of Indiana is an idiot, shitty lawyer, and a self centered a hole. I will never vote for him.

Donald Trump is not a republican, he is only for himself. Do you think Regan, Bush I, Bush Ii, Ford, would sit and watch a mob storm the capitol, and do nothing?

Lots of deflection in your reply. As for former presidents, I think Clinton was a good president, but a scoundrel. He is like Trump in that regard. In my memory, I put Reagan as the best we have had, then W, then Trump and then Clinton. Biden/Carter were the worst, followed by Ford, then Bush I, and then Obama. I conveniently left out Nixon, because he was before my interest in politics. Nixon was a solid POTUS, but also a scoundrel.

When I was just a wee lad, I followed political stuff like we do sports. Yay, rah, go team. As I have aged, I am put off by it all, but can recognize the good of either party and the bad. Both suck, and both have good people in them.

Racehorse 07-23-2022 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 234346)
Even if everyone is going after his money, how does that really affect you?

You have a serious DTS disease Jaff. You may not like the man, but he was way better for this country than Biden, that's an undeniable fucking fact. Maybe you need to stop watching CNN and The View.
You got nothing to say about how your quality of life was better under Trump?

I think you mean TDS, as in Trump Derangement Syndrome. That is what Jaff has. DTS is Donald Trump Syndrome, which is what the MAGA red hats have, where they think Trump is Jesus, or very close. What I have is DTF, Donald Trump Fatigue. I tired of his tweets that undermined his policies that were helping this country rebound. I was not wanting Biden, but also was not looking forward to Trump saying stupid stuff to fire up his opponents to get out and vote. He cost himself the election. His handling of racial matters and of Covid were also costly to his re-election.

Racehorse 07-23-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234354)
Its not an all or nothing world. I know good people in both parties in my county and state. I like and approve of the governor of Indiana. The attorney general of Indiana is an idiot, shitty lawyer, and a self centered a hole. I will never vote for him.

Donald Trump is not a republican, he is only for himself. Do you think Regan, Bush I, Bush Ii, Ford, would sit and watch a mob storm the capitol, and do nothing?

Let me explain it better. What conservative policies do you agree with?

JAFF 07-23-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 234281)
I have nothing in common with you stupid fucking liberal hacks. You should be thankful that my dad, uncles and myself fought for your freedom so you could be the dicks you are today, saddens me really.

You served to protect everyones right to vote for who THEY choose, not for your choice. I wont vote for a liar and a fraud. How many times did he duck out on military service for heel spurs? How can you defend him? He used veterans to try and overthrow this government and he just sat and watched on TV.

Spike 07-23-2022 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 234353)
Trump betrayed this country on 1-6. How can you not see that

Trump betrayed the country? Biden is the one who betrayed the country you dumb ass. Trump was Pro American, Biden is not, how can you not see that!???? I hate arguing with liberal dumb asses.

Spike 07-23-2022 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 234357)
I think you mean TDS, as in Trump Derangement Syndrome. That is what Jaff has. DTS is Donald Trump Syndrome, which is what the MAGA red hats have, where they think Trump is Jesus, or very close. What I have is DTF, Donald Trump Fatigue. I tired of his tweets that undermined his policies that were helping this country rebound. I was not wanting Biden, but also was not looking forward to Trump saying stupid stuff to fire up his opponents to get out and vote. He cost himself the election. His handling of racial matters and of Covid were also costly to his re-election.

Yeah, my bad. But I'm sure Jaff knew what I meant though. You are right, Trump is his own worst enemy. He should have just left his great policies speak for themselves and kept his fat mouth shut. He is a dumbass when it comes to that.


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