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Hoopsdoc 07-03-2022 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 233441)
do you understand that obama was denied his lawful obligation to fill a vacant seat by republicans during an election year. then they filled a seat 8 days before election 4 years later? don't fucking cry to me about playing fair. there is zero rules to how many justices sit on the supreme court.

the republican policies are too bad to pass through congress so they are having the clown show supreme court legislate from the bench. it is lunacy and fuckery all at once.

how can a fucking honest person look at what is going on and be like yeah that is how this is supposed to work?

“Lawful obligation.” Lol.

No laws were broken, bro.

Again, the republicans did nothing wrong in filling that seat and certainly nothing the democrats wouldn’t have done in a HEARTBEAT.

And had it been the democrats who did it, you’d be telling everyone complaining about it to get over it.

JAFF 07-03-2022 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 233441)
do you understand that obama was denied his lawful obligation to fill a vacant seat by republicans during an election year. then they filled a seat 8 days before election 4 years later? don't fucking cry to me about playing fair. there is zero rules to how many justices sit on the supreme court.

the republican policies are too bad to pass through congress so they are having the clown show supreme court legislate from the bench. it is lunacy and fuckery all at once.

how can a fucking honest person look at what is going on and be like yeah that is how this is supposed to work?

Its the voters fault.

Instead of securing Amendments to the constitution, we settled for court decisions. Women want abortion right, they need to get organized and change the constitution.

Right now, a ten year old girl is forced to leave her own state to abort a fetus created by her being raped and sexually abused. How can any government force her to give birth, which She may not survive?

https://www.newsweek.com/shes-10-chi...witter-1721248

We the people allowed the courts to gain power over the legislative. We let Presidents use executive orders to manipulate the law. If this country is to succeed, then put our legislators to work settling the constitutional rights of ALL the people.

Lov2fish 07-03-2022 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233459)
Its the voters fault.

Instead of securing Amendments to the constitution, we settled for court decisions. Women want abortion right, they need to get organized and change the constitution.

Right now, a ten year old girl is forced to leave her own state to abort a fetus created by her being raped and sexually abused. How can any government force her to give birth, which She may not survive?

https://www.newsweek.com/shes-10-chi...witter-1721248

We the people allowed the courts to gain power over the legislative. We let Presidents use executive orders to manipulate the law. If this country is to succeed, then put our legislators to work settling the constitutional rights of ALL the people.

To change the constitution you have to have a convention of states and it takes 2/3rds approval from the states. In this divided America that will never happen. If it did happen you can't just open the constitution to change whatever you want. If a convention of states were to happen the change has to be direct. I.E. you can only change the one thing you called the convention for. You can't go through every amendment and change what you want all willy-nilly. The framers made it difficult on purpose. It keeps ass hurt people from just doing it cause their feelings were hurt, or a party doesn't agree with it.

Mandates and executive orders are merely suggestions. They hold no effect of law. A president can not create laws. All laws must come from congress. Not saying some fucktards don't try this, I.E. every fucking president for the last 50 years. Then you get the mental gymnastics from idiots everywhere trying to explain to you how it does. This country has been dumbed down to an astonishing level of degradation that it will never recover from.

They stopped teaching civics in school when they found out it works best when you don't give the retarded robots the tools to stop them with.

JAFF 07-03-2022 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 233463)

They stopped teaching civics in school when they found out it works best when you don't give the retarded robots the tools to stop them with.

You cant graduate from HS in Indiana without passing a course in US government.

People get motivated when they have rights denied that were once available. If women want to have control of their reproductive systems, it will happen.

Lov2fish 07-03-2022 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233465)
You cant graduate from HS in Indiana without passing a course in US government.

People get motivated when they have rights denied that were once available. If women want to have control of their reproductive systems, it will happen.

Roe being overturned did not ban abortions. Why is that so hard to understand? They ruled, correctly by the way, that the constitution does not protect it and moved the decision back to the states.

What they teach is nothing more than a script derived of gibberish. I quiz my high school granddaughters constantly. Americans should be embarrassed at the education system in this country. They were never taught anything, let alone anything remotely close to how government works, how this country was formed, the history of this country, except for anything negative. Forget asking about anything constitutional, they have a deer in the headlight look. If you're happy with indoctrination instead of education, you are part of the problem. If any student knows a teachers political affiliation, they are horrible fucking teachers.

JAFF 07-03-2022 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 233467)
Roe being overturned did not ban abortions. Why is that so hard to understand? They ruled, correctly by the way, that the constitution does not protect it and moved the decision back to the states.

What they teach is nothing more than a script derived of gibberish. I quiz my high school granddaughters constantly. Americans should be embarrassed at the education system in this country. They were never taught anything, let alone anything remotely close to how government works, how this country was formed, the history of this country, except for anything negative. Forget asking about anything constitutional, they have a deer in the headlight look. If you're happy with indoctrination instead of education, you are part of the problem. If any student knows a teachers political affiliation, they are horrible fucking teachers.

In certain states it does ban abortions. Otherwise that 10 year old girl would not be traveling to Indiana to seek relief. Nice try shoveling bs, try a bigger shovel next time.

omahacolt 07-03-2022 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 233457)
“Lawful obligation.” Lol.

No laws were broken, bro.

Again, the republicans did nothing wrong in filling that seat and certainly nothing the democrats wouldn’t have done in a HEARTBEAT.

And had it been the democrats who did it, you’d be telling everyone complaining about it to get over it.

they wouldn't bring it to vote when obama had every right, constitutionally, to fill that seat. you know this.

may not have technically broke a law but you how government norms and procedures work.

it was complete bullshit and if you can't admit that, you aren't a reasonable person. if the democrats did that, i would want whoever was responsible out immediately. we need integrity in congress. on both sides.

omahacolt 07-03-2022 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 233467)
Roe being overturned did not ban abortions. Why is that so hard to understand? They ruled, correctly by the way, that the constitution does not protect it and moved the decision back to the states.

What they teach is nothing more than a script derived of gibberish. I quiz my high school granddaughters constantly. Americans should be embarrassed at the education system in this country. They were never taught anything, let alone anything remotely close to how government works, how this country was formed, the history of this country, except for anything negative. Forget asking about anything constitutional, they have a deer in the headlight look. If you're happy with indoctrination instead of education, you are part of the problem. If any student knows a teachers political affiliation, they are horrible fucking teachers.

kids aren't be indoctrinated in public schools. more republican straw man bullshit

Lov2fish 07-03-2022 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 233474)
kids aren't be indoctrinated in public schools. more republican straw man bullshit

Did I say Republicans were not doing it too? You can fuck off if you have not done so already today.

Lov2fish 07-03-2022 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233468)
In certain states it does ban abortions. Otherwise that 10 year old girl would not be traveling to Indiana to seek relief. Nice try shoveling bs, try a bigger shovel next time.

Just an FYI. I support abortion in cases of rape, incest or mothers health at risk. I do not support using it as a contraceptive. Does not change that scotus ruled correctly. All your bullshit feelings won't change that.

JAFF 07-03-2022 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 233479)
Just an FYI. I support abortion in cases of rape, incest or mothers health at risk. I do not support using it as a contraceptive. Does not change that scotus ruled correctly. All your bullshit feelings won't change that.

The law is WRONG when a minor is involved. She had no choice. Yet she could not get proper medical treatment in her own state.

How does a 10 yr old know she is pregnant in the situation described? She doesnt, yet must leave her home state that CANNOT HELP HER!

Any governmental system should protect the weakest members. If it cant defend them, protect them, it cannot protect anyone.

Lov2fish 07-03-2022 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233483)
The law is WRONG when a minor is involved. She had no choice. Yet she could not get proper medical treatment in her own state.

How does a 10 yr old know she is pregnant in the situation described? She doesnt, yet must leave her home state that CANNOT HELP HER!

Any governmental system should protect the weakest members. If it cant defend them, protect them, it cannot protect anyone.

I understand what you're saying, I do, but less than 2% of abortions are attributed to the rallying cry of the left. I would have without doubt granted that little girl the abortion option, but not some lady who fell on her back with her legs in the air and decided that she will just continue to be irresponsible. Being stupid has consequences.

The scotus still got it right. If you care to actually research why they got it right, research how it became law through the Warren court. It was unconstitutional on that alone. This country has finally dusted off the constitution and are starting to make it relevant again. I applaud them and don't personally give a fuck how many feelings they hurt in doing so!

JAFF 07-03-2022 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 233484)
I understand what you're saying, I do, but less than 2% of abortions are attributed to the rallying cry of the left. I would have without doubt granted that little girl the abortion option, but not some lady who fell on her back with her legs in the air and decided that she will just continue to be irresponsible. Being stupid has consequences.

The scotus still got it right. If you care to actually research why they got it right, research how it became law through the Warren court. It was unconstitutional on that alone. This country has finally dusted off the constitution and are starting to make it relevant again. I applaud them and don't personally give a fuck how many feelings they hurt in doing so!

If you had a vagina, you would have a different view. Being a big twat, you dont know what you are talking about

Lov2fish 07-03-2022 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233486)
If you had a vagina, you would have a different view. Being a big twat, you dont know what you are talking about

Well, I don't have a vagina, and this big twat will forget more about constitutional law than you will ever know. You lack any fucking capacity for comprehension whatsoever. Sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming while someone tells you truth doesn't make it less truth cause you can't hear it. God damn how did this site ever get overrun with so many braindead cucks?

rcubed 07-03-2022 08:07 PM

Originalism is not good. Times change.

Hoopsdoc 07-03-2022 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 233473)
they wouldn't bring it to vote when obama had every right, constitutionally, to fill that seat. you know this.

may not have technically broke a law but you how government norms and procedures work.

it was complete bullshit and if you can't admit that, you aren't a reasonable person. if the democrats did that, i would want whoever was responsible out immediately. we need integrity in congress. on both sides.

And the Dems broke norms and procedures when they eliminated the filibuster for all but SCOTUS nominations, which opened the door for the republicans when they took power.

Again, if you think the Dems wouldn’t have done the exact same thing if the tables were reversed, then you aren’t a reasonable person.

JAFF 07-03-2022 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 233488)
Well, I don't have a vagina, and this big twat will forget more about constitutional law than you will ever know. You lack any fucking capacity for comprehension whatsoever. Sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming while someone tells you truth doesn't make it less truth cause you can't hear it. God damn how did this site ever get overrun with so many braindead cucks?

Its 2022, and women can control THEIR reproductive systems. I dont give a shit what You think, it doesnt count. The constitution can change to protect the population from knowitalls like you

Hoopsdoc 07-03-2022 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233486)
If you had a vagina, you would have a different view. Being a big twat, you dont know what you are talking about

My wife, and her vagina, is the most pro life person I know.

JAFF 07-03-2022 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 233492)
My wife, and her vagina, is the most pro life person I know.

Good for her. Shes older than ten, didnt get raped, and force to try and give birth, even it might kill her

Hoopsdoc 07-03-2022 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 233493)
Good for her. Shes older than ten, didnt get raped, and force to try and give birth, even it might kill her

Less than .5 percent of abortions are because of rape or incest.

3 out of 4, or 75 percent, are elective, IE the mother just doesn’t want the baby for whatever reason.

We don’t make policy based on .5 percent of the population.

FWIW, I support a woman’s right to choose in the event of rape or incest.

JAFF 07-04-2022 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 233496)
Less than .5 percent of abortions are because of rape or incest.

3 out of 4, or 75 percent, are elective, IE the mother just doesn’t want the baby for whatever reason.

We don’t make policy based on .5 percent of the population.

FWIW, I support a woman’s right to choose in the event of rape or incest.

Then make sure planned parenthood is fully funded to help poor families prevent unwanted pregnancies. Not abortions, they can help with condoms , the pill, mammograms.

If the right cant do that, then they are not pro life, they are just pro birth. If the right isnt going to help those who are denied abortions, they need to help with the results that will occur. The right needs to strip the phrase “baby mamas” if they wont provide help with birth control.

Sometimes children happen. After 3 surprises, I had surgery, because having a vasectomy, is never having to say to say I’m sorry.


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