I believe March 18 is the drop dead date for CW's money to kick in. If they could trade him before then, it would be cool. If they can't trade him, I'm not in favor of just releasing him to save that money. I'd say trade or keep is my feeling. If you release him, you're not going to replace him with a SB caliber QB, so why bother?

Two more weeks of this crap. Can't wait.

These last few weeks have been the definition of nobody knows nothing. Yet everyone (I am alluding to sports talking heads, not freaks. We get to talk about shit we know nothing about all the time-like this opinion of mine. Otherwise what is the use of this forum?) talks as if they 'know' Wentz is gone. I think the reality is exactly what the Colts have said, they are making up their minds as I write this. That in and of itself is a damning admission to Wentz, and the Colts know that. The fact that they have let it be known that they have recently met with Wentz, with nothing leaking that it was a meeting to tell him he was gone, indicates to me that they are still making up their minds. The Colts front office does not seem like they would play games with the man, if they brought him in to talk they still are looking at him as an option. I would expect that talking to Wentz would be one of the last things they would do, after evaluation of what is available, before they make their decisions. I would think that if they wanted another QB on another team now is the time to call and see what it costs. I don't like this situation at all, the front office screwed up big time by trading for this asshole. I do, however, love how what appears to be the process that they are going through to find out what the best course of action is. Maybe a better way of stating that is what is the least shitty course of action available. I hope they can pull this off but it is a heavy lift.

Whatever decision the Colts make will be very easy to criticize. They don't have a good a good one.

I was alright with them giving wentza shot. I thought, as some did, that a new team with reich might reset wentz to an extent.

The problem was the compensation, we gave up too much. It sounds like we basically bid against ourselves and ballard got fleeced a bit. But, I guess that will happen when trading for a starting QB. Hopefully ballard can navigate a way out of this mess but I dont really see how, in the short term at least.

I also was ok with them giving him a chance. I was wrong also, but in my defense I am not a professional evaluator with the resources the Colts have. To me it is how the decision ended up. For whatever reason I think it turned out to be a shitty decision, one I probably would have made. Just because I would have made the same decision doesn't mean it wasn't a shitty one. I make plenty of shitty decisions.

In the end, Ballard's QB decisions have been:

Year 1 - 2019 - Roll with Jacoby Biscuit because his superstar QB retired 2 weeks before the season.

Year 2 - 2020 - Sign an effective but aged Phillip Rivers. Turned out Phil could still be effective and we made the playoffs. Lots of warts but he played well in his twilight season.

Year 3 - 2021 - Trade for wonderkid potential in Carson Wentz. Thought it would be effective but was shown that it was not.

Year 4 - 2022 - ???

For as much as I want to rail at Andrew Luck for retiring, I cannot. These guys are modern day gladiators out here selling their health for our entertainment. I could argue that the HOW he did it sucked but the why? Yeah, not me to judge.

JB had every chance to show that he deserved the starting job and flubbed his season long audition.

PR was an aging wonder who did well but at the end, was on his last tank of gas. Solid move by Ballard that gave us a great chance to win but not a deep playoff run.

CW? Yeah, miss. He has it all except the most important 6 inches between his ears. I saw multiple young QBs in the playoffs WILL their teams to scores in the waning seconds of their games. They said "put the team on my shoulders" and they delivered time and again. I saw that and knew that CW is not that guy.

In the end, do I blame Ballard and Reich for the loss of resources we traded away for an ineffective player? Yeah, but I don't blame them much. It was a good gamble to take and it just did not pay off.

But I don't blame Ballard for trying. He has been trying to fix QB ever since Luck retired and has tried to do it pretty well. He just rolled snake eyes on Wentz.

Maybe give Wentz some weapons plus protection and let him play to his strengths. Which is not the short passing game IMO.

wellllll....there is that $109M

Not a heck of a lot of fun spending it if CTE is your reality. Whatever these guys are paid is fine with me considering the chances they take with the state of their future minds. They are not compensated enough in my view.

I kind of agree, but if Ballard brings Wentz back, and he has another shitty year, both Ballard and Wentz should be sent packing !!! Its going on 4 years since Luck left and the Colt's are still just treading water in search of a QB.

Unless Irsay is in on the decision and understands that there is no upgrade available and this may be a down year again.

There are no upgrades available to the Colts. Reports are that Ballard did call about Rogers, I am sure he is calling about Wilson and Carr also.

After they are eventually ruled out then Wentz is the best option.

Wentz would have been more expensive this yr than last yr if all the circumstances were the same

NOTE Rogers is staying in GB. 200 million for 4 years

Look, let's say Trubisky or Bridgewater or whoever, can come in at half the cost of Wentz, isn't that still a win for the Colts?

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Not that there was much of a chance of him coming to the Colts, but for what it's worth ......



Aaron Rodgers Staying with Green Bay Packers on 4-Year Deal

(By Tom Silverstein)

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com...rs/6922833001/

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Also, we have a thread for this in the NFL section ......


http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/show...233#post225233

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No car payment for Rodgers

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$150M of that is guaranteed, too. RIP Packers with that contract lol.

Russell Wilson is a Bronco! No exact details yet, but the deal allegedly involves multiple first round picks, a physical, and Wilson's approval.

Not that I thought they were going to get Wilson or Rogers, but there goes Wilson and Rogers.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

#Broncos get: Russell Wilson and a fourth-rounder.
#Seahawks get: 2 first-rounders and 2 second-rounders, a fifth-rounder, Drew Lock, Shelby Harris and Noah Fant.

oh I agree. but their salaries cannot be discounted, its not like they are doing this just for the love of the game or for our entertainment.

they now know the risks going in. that being said I would never fault any player retiring "early" to preserves their health.

Would you inquire about Jordan Love ??

Pretty good haul for SEA. Depending on how much you value Goff, it's more than what DET got for Stafford. Knee-jerk reaction is I somehow thought it was going to be even more expensive than that.

Apparently Rodgers' money isn't official yet, but assume it's true... they're saying his cap hit will reduce from the $46m or whatever it is. I guess I don't understand the cap more than I thought.

no no no. No no no

Not if you have to sign them to a long term contract.

Welcome to the reality of life in the NFL. Great Quarterbacks don’t grow on trees. It took the Colts the better part of two decades to find a successor to Bert Jones. The Dolphins have had zilch since Marino. The Broncos have been reduced to taking stabs at great players in the twilight of their careers.

Wilson is 33, he's got 5+ years left by modern standards.

And he is going to Denver

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...denver-broncos

Can they still get out of the AFC West? We’ll see.

Sorry; I forgot that half the nfl goes to the playoffs now.

It’s really been two years. Just feels like forever. Rivers was a stopgap who decided to hang it up. Wentz was a gamble the coach pushed for.

Stuff I more blame Ballard for is not drafting a LT after Castonzo was even hinting at retirement. Or keeping so much cap room with obvious holes that need filling.

Still hoping for Jimmy G

An interesting side note Desmond Ridders high school coach was Will Wolford

What a fucking mess.

I'm very curious what the move is now. Wentz off the books gives us $70m to work with. Now some of these lateral moves are a lot more palatable.

Rodgers and Wilson are set and I don't see McDaniels bailing on Carr. So Watson seems to be the only upgrade available. I live north of Houston, so I get plenty of Texans exposure and local perspective concerning Watson...


A.) Who knows what his legal status will be. Grand jury on Friday.

B.) He's an upgrade over Wentz because he's more elusive/athletic than Wentz and a bit more accurate.

C.) A lot of the same shit we didn't like about Wentz is present with Watson. Holding the ball, not processing and being decisive, give you a heart attack multiple times a game trying to extend plays, etc. Sometimes it pays off, sometimes it hurts. Better than Wentz, but similar type of things.

D.) Character stuff gets brought up. Nothing crazy, but stuff like eyes-on-me first down gestures when you're down 21-0 in the second half of a playoff game against the Colts (that was a big one here).

E.) He hasn't played since 2020 and he'll be expensive. We have all the cap room we need, but it'll still cost picks and players.


That's a lot to consider. Otherwise, what? A lateral move for less money would allow you to go after guys like Armstead and whoever else. Is there even enough out there to go after that would make a lateral QB move produce a better team than last year?

Is the pie-in-the-sky best scenario now that Ehlinger can play football as well as these guys and none of that $70m has to be spent on QB?

I'm on the Garappolo bandwagon as well. I don't think he's great or anything, but right now unless there's some great talent the Colts can get, I just want competent, and I think he's that.

but at what cost?


i don't think he is worth what they will want for him

I didnt think they would be able to really move off of wentz easily, I thought we wouldnt be able to trade him and would play him by default or trade and eat salary making it a bit harder to sign whoever is our next QB.

Well.. since they were able to get rid of wentz with no money implications ballard seems to have a better situation to play with. I would hazard a guess that ballard does not want to trade any more picks because he loves his picks and got burnt last time around, this is especially relevant given the quality of QBs available. Therefore I think he will sign one of the FAs to a 2 year deal and try to draft our long term solution in the next two years, probably next years draft.

I will say trubisky. They will overpay a bit for a shorter term deal.

I’m just glad we don’t have to talk about this shit anymore. I’m hoping they will put some money into free agency and improve the rest of the team. Sign Trubinsky (he’s has been mediocre but has an overall winning record and has never had a decent coach) or another free agent. Don’t trade any assets for mediocre QBs (I’m looking at you Garappolo). Think Wentz was worth the shot, especially since they got off of him so quickly.

I could have dated Christe Brinkley, but she would never return my calls

They better sign Turbisky, because Jimmy G has trouble going 16 games a year

That’s why we have Ellingher, Jimmy isn’t worried about losing his job so he won’t play when he realizes he’s hurting the team unlike Carson

He has a hard time staying healthy