One thing I haven't read from anyone, is how this vaunted OL got pushed around for the entire game. All year, they've sucked at pass blocking, then, in this must win game against the worst team in the NFL, they can't even run block. Taylor got most of his yards in spite of the OL, not because of it.

You know it never really matters what these guys think. All these tough guy types think they know shit, but they're just assholes. You can't predict how someone will react to a tough situation until they are in that situation, there is no magic test or question you can ask them.

My FIL was a state cop for 30 years and thinks he can tell when someone is lying to him. He can't, he's just an asshole who believes what he wants to believe.

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You don't have a crystal ball. You can't look at a kid, and predict his future anymore than I can. I've sat at those kitchen tables with you, and listened to you tell those parents, "What I know, I know, and when it comes to your son, I know" ....... and you don't ...... you don't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LugIVfL6FbU

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I was proven wrong C&O. Happens all the time. After a night to sleep on it, I am not going to put the blame on any one player (Wentz). It was a total team collapse, everyone has blame on this one. Personally I think that it goes back to being idiots and not getting vaccinated. COVID infected so many of our starters late in the season. Any of you who have had COVID or know folks who have had it know that nobody feels great for quite some time after the infection. In the NFL if you are just a little off you get your asses handed to you. I've buried a child and there is no way Kelly was mentally into the game like he wanted to be. Not his fault, nothing a human can do about grief except let it ride. The real key to leadership is where they take us from here. If they are able to pull themselves together and have a successful year next year I will happily be proven wrong again. I doubt it will happen though. This could lead to a downward spiral big time.

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2 weeks ago, a lot of Colts fans were saying that this team had balls of steel after they gutted out a win over the Cardinals on their home-field when 4 out of the 5 starters on the offensive line were out due to COVID and injury.


http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136388



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Join the club....everyone is a member!

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OldColt, I'm not picking on you ...... you have plenty of company.



I had this to say before the game against the Cardinals:



And I had this to say after the win over the Cardinals.



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With all due respect, I think you’re complicating things to much.

It’s simple.

Teams figured out that if you contain JT, Wentz will not beat you. He just can’t do it. Everything that went wrong yesterday started with that.

I would agree with you except that they contained JT by dominating the entire offensive line from the get go. That is not on Wentz, who did zilch to help I would add. Wentz doesn't play defense and the tone of the game was set up by the Jags driving the field at will to begin with. . It was a total team collapse from the get go, not just one crappy guy who blew it for his teammates who were giving it their all. Wentz was the biggest issue for sure, just not the only one.

That’s why Wentz was brought in here, to win games when everything isn’t working, after all, he’s supposed to be a franchise QB !! He’s not, he’s an average QB at best ! Irsay’s dream of multiple Super Bowls will stay a dream as long as he puts all his faith in the people he has running this franchise. Start paying attention Jim !!

I don't think he was brought in to be a franchise type quarterback. He needed to be just ok. He isn't. I am agreeing with you that he didn't come close to being what we needed, an average QB.

How does Wentz have a solid gold captain C patch on his chest? He hasn't been here long enough nor been a captain on this team long enough to have a solid gold with all of the stars filled in. That's a 5 year team captain patch. One star filled in for each year he's a captain. Was he just gifted that? He certainly hasn't earned it.

Yep, hey Irsay let's hang up another shitty banner that says "Almost made the playoffs". This is the most frustrating team in all of my years pulling for the Colts. We beat the Bills, Pats, 49ers, and Cardinals, and I thought here we go. This team can win a SB. But just to shit on my parade, we lose to the Raiders and the worst team in football, the Jackoffs. I don't want to hear any excuses from Reich, Ballard, Wentz or Irsay. Outside of Irsay, the other 3 can go fuck themselves.

Totally agree, he hasn't earned it. He should have been given an F patch, for failure.

I CERTAINLY am a member. Glad to have you with us CP, you have really great takes brother.

The fanbase wants him gone. They are spoiled. I have a steelers friend and he has been talking about for two years (he likes Tomlin, thinks the fanbase is nuts).

I'd take Tomlin in a hot minute.

Dolphins fired Brian Flores. Bad move. Either he or Fangio would be an upgrade in the d coordinator position.

Harbaugh, Tomlin, and probably Flores. I'd have interest in all of those guys.

I appreciate that...I've really enjoyed the forum this season despite how it ended! Good bunch a guys with a lot of football knowledge!

I have learned so much in the time I have been here. Great group of fans here.

So the colts should move on from Leonard and Nelson?

Maybe grab some impact players with leadership qualities so Leonard and Nelson can just focus on being good teammates.

Remember Cory Redding? He was a leader. Came here from Baltimore. Hard to believe it's been 7 years since he left.

Great call- definitely had the heart of the team beating collectively.

Goose was like that as well. Always regretted us letting him go.

You probably were Jimmy in another life

He must have been named a captain at least 4 times with the Eagles. Rivers had a gold C last year, didn't he?

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https://mvccte.com/wp-content/upload.../tomflores.jpg

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I don't think that is the Flores he was referring to.....:D

Nice!!!

A. While I am not a fan of the move, I believe that there is a 95% chance that team management sticks with Carson Wentz as the starting QB for the Colts in 2022. When he poops the bed again in 2022, we will only then start looking for our next QB.

B. However, in the low, low chance that management realizes that he is not a winner just like the majority of the fan base does, who are other options?

Sam Ehlinger, already on Colts 2022 roster (2021 6th round pick by IND from Texas)
James Morgan, already on Colts 2022 roster (2020 4th round pick by NYJ from FIU)
Andy Dalton, UFA (2021 Cap Hit = $10.000m)
Nick Foles, UFA (2021 Cap Hit = $8.000m)
Cam Newton, UFA (2021 Cap Hit = $6.000m)
Jameis Winston, UFA (2021 Cap Hit = $5.500m)
Teddy Bridgewater, UFA (2021 Cap Hit = $4.437m)
Marcus Mariota, UFA (2021 Cap Hit = $3.500m)

To name a few. And, of course, who can forget the possibility of....

Is Green Bay really going to carry Aaron Rodgers at 39 years old in 2022 with a $46.444m Cap Hit? They save $20m off the cap if they cut him and they are currently $37m OVER the cap for 2022.

There are other options if the Colts want to part ways with Wentz. It was a bad move from the very beginning but my guess is that we are going to suffer an additional year before seeing the "error" of our ways.

Would the Colts even consider bringing in Foles? That would be a real kick in the nuts to Carson!

Not exactly an inspiring list of names. I'm sure all of the respective fan bases of those FA's have said similar things to what we're saying about Wentz now.

I still say our greatest chance of relieving Wentz is for Ehlinger to develop (probably more than I think he can). If not, Wentz is it for 2022.

There just aren't that many real good QBs in the world.

Siragusa basically forced his way out though didn't he? But yeah, he was a leader.

I guess it carries over from team to team. Never really thought about it until I saw Wentz decked out like Rodgers and, yes, Phil.

Except for that one brawl in the White Castle parking lot on West 38th that one time... or was it the Steak and Shake???

This is a guy I had my eye on when he was a rookie. Not sure why he bounced around before we took a flyer, but the guy has an arm and is a real competitor. I hope he sticks with us to find out.

I remember him going into the 2020 draft as well and was hoping we'd be able to draft him in the later rounds. Will be interested to see if he can develop, but not going to hold my breath.

I had to look that up. October 21, 1991, he was arrested for having an unlicensed 9mm and Tim Manoa was arrested for public drunkenness. White Castle. They'd lost to the Jets and were 0-8. Ha! So a leader on the field I guess. Off the field, not so much.

I do remember the year we went in that AFC championship run with Harbaugh it came down to the final game and Colts were losing at halftime and after the game all the players said goose laid into the team in the locker room he was pissed going off throwing shit around telling them they were gonna blow a shot at getting in the playoffs

They all agreed that speech fired them up

Where were our leaders Sunday??

Nelson should’ve been destroying the jags locker room at halftime

As far as I can tell, we have no leaders. I hope I'm wrong but...man.

None worth a shit. Some do talk a good talk ,however none walk the walk