I saw numerous interviews with people, sometimes vets, talk about laying their life on the line for anyone in America, saying they would die for their fellow Americans, yet refused to do something simple like put a mask on to protect the people around them. Such a weird mindset.


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We seem to like to go after each unless there is a unifying event. Most of the country did not want to enter ww2, remembering the staggering losses of ww1. It took the attack at Pearl Harbor to do it. So I guess the lesson is that covid needs to blow up a naval base?

I do wonder if we would be able to eliminate diseases like polio and tetanus today though. There is so much mis-information. Just one person can cause harm by going around and spreading it on social media.

I cannot understand how anyone would believe anything on facebook. Its the largest collection of fucktards and ego maniacs talking out their collective asses. Same for twitter. Nothing smart happens there

73% of NFL players have been vaccinated. Colts are less than 50%

Fucking embarrassing. Trade Leonard for a first and change, we need better leaders, he is a fucking turd. Great player, but a moron.

The 600,000 + deaths is greater than combat deaths in WW1 & WW2, combined. We as a society dont believe bad things will happen to us, until it punches us in the face. It took far too long for America to get its collective shit together about the AIDS epidemic. No one cared until it got into the blood supply, by then it was way too late.

The Republican party thinks that they can take back the House next year, but I’m not sure there will be enough republicans to win an election. Look at a political map and a covid map. The deep red states are low vaccination, the opposite for democratic states with high vaccination rates.

The stubborn, gullible, and stupid are now the ones who are dying from covid. Every covid death right now can be avoided.

A. Sorry to hear about your wife.

B. Agree 100%. I am all for the protocols the NFL has put into place for those players/staff who choose not to get vaccinated. Mask up, social distance and wash your fricking hands.

But, this is still America (for the moment) and folks get to make choices and choose to deal with the consequences.

Yes, those NFL players who choose not to get the vaccine will be put at a competitive disadvantage to those who do. If they don't perform or are not available to play, then they will be demoted/cut/effect future earnings. That is the consequence.

Yes, it may also effect the overall team win rate. But we don't fine or force folks to work out in the off-season under a monitored, body-cam style system to ensure that they are at peak performance for training camp either. It is about individual player's choice.

My guess is that if folks are CONVINCED of the threat, then the American mindset is capably of incredible sacrifice.

Alas, in today' politically charged world, the 'evidence" of any viewpoint about COVID is horribly compromised.

Someone earlier said that we should be able to trust the testimony of certified doctors to give us the truth but, unfortunately, time and again ideology has been proven to be more important than scientific derived facts.
Look at the political map and the mortality map, however. The vast majority of deaths are not happening in red states.

I think you may be mixing two different types of stats here.

The 73+% number is the percentage of players across the league that have received their first dose of the vaccine.

Whereas the team numbers are the percentage of players that are fully vaccinated.

At the beginning of July, Ballard had indicated that more Colts were getting their first vaccine shot so he said the overall team numbers would improve - but you have that 3 - 4 week wait for the second dose if they opt for the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines.

(That being said, it is also true that at the present time, the Colts are one of the bottom two teams in the league as far as the percentage being fully vaccinated.)

I don’t know why but there is an anti-science anti-intellectual movement now. Where people get on and think their ignorance is just as valid as someone who is trained in that area. I see people reference peer reviewed papers with an anonymous blog off the Internet spouting conspiracies. It doesn’t help that Facebook’s algorithm keeps feeding you what you like. So basically if you like the idea aliens run the world through Bigfoot and cows, then you will keep seeing items that support that notion. It’s like an indoctrination tool.

While I agree, it seems it takes a flashbulb moment to trigger the population.

I’ll refrain from the political divide. I will say it’s the duty of the repubs to guide their constituents. If Trump and his family got vaccinated, what’s the issue? Because yeah, they are pretty much the ones dying right now.

But everyone is still at risk. Because as long as there is population that it can exist in, a mutation can happen that the vaccine won’t protect against. Then we are back to square one again. Also this delta variant is stronger, more contagious, and produces more strain.

No vaccine mandate yet....but the league just provided some more guidance about COVID protocols this season with more advantages for teams/players that are vaccinated:

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...58413142818816

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...56770305335299

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...57949034745859

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...59009044353024

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...61816493363203

https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/sta...63386098372610

There will be a large chunk of colts taking it elsewhere in the hallway.

This should put pressure on unvaccinated players to get vaccinated. Not only could you be costing your team a loss but you are costing your team mates a ton of money. We shall see if this wonderful locker Ballard has built means shit when the rubber hits the road with these guys. There can be zero question not getting vaccinated puts your team at risk with these new NFL rules.

https://twitter.com/jimayello/status...90814766260226

https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1418291389427769345

https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1418292961444569093

Players need to get the vaccination now, in time for the season. Once the preseason starts, its too late

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AlwaysSunnyinIndy ...... the man who has more pertinent information in 5 of his posts than I do in 100 of mine. ) :o


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Don't sell yourself short.....I learn a lot from your posts, too. :)

This is gonna cost some teams some games.

Probably the Colts, if they don't get their shit together.

that is correct. it is there choice

and could come be a huge detriment to the team.

to be fair.

hospitals have been doing this with the flu shot for years. so precedent is there. not saying if it is right or wrong.

cable news has destoryed this country

Mandated vaccination of school children is how we have removed measles and mumps from our country. Granted, it is done because kids are required to be in school, the rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few. Vaccinations have been around for 50 + years, there wasnt any controversy until the internet.

Toss in facebook

Especially when the opinion shows have taken over what people perceive as real news.

Vaccination numbers keep ticking up across the NFL:

https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/sta...07598186622980

https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/stat...13262518833152

Minnesota Vikings OL Coach Rick Dennison is out of a job after he refused to get a COVID vaccine.

https://twitter.com/CourtneyRCronin/...28745049493508

https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/stat...38232250630149

Minnesota Vikings OL Coach Rick Dennison is a moron.

My own opinion is that the Colts should not be giving out 20 million dollar contracts to people who would not get vaccinated unless there is a clause that the Colts can nullify this contract if that player gets COVID. We don't need to be saddled with a huge contract to some idiot that may lose us games all by himself or turns out to be a long hauler who can't play for shit

One of the Cheats Co-OL Coaches is also refusing the COVID vaccine and is no longer on the staff. The other half of the two person team will take over the job on a solo basis.

https://twitter.com/MikeReiss/status...60025271259141

The Vikings have now put out a statement saying that they continue to have discussions with Dennison.

So I guess he could be allowed back on the staff if he changes his mind and gets vaccinated or they are creating some Zoom-based Offensive Line consultant where he has no regular face-to-face contact with the players.

I 100% want the Colts to Trade Davis for a 1st+, get him off our team. Let's not give this Idiot a huge contract that ties him to the Colts for years.

I'm fairly close to agreeing with you on this. I still am holding out for him be vaccinated now that the NFL has spoken so clearly. If he still wont then lets see what we can get in a trade

Did you mean Darius?

Vontae?

No I have a feeling Leonard will have a change of heart soon

Yes, I was watching TV and not concentrating. I suck at multitasking. Not sure where that came from.

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At the press conference for Peyton Manning's and Edgerrin James' inductions into the Hall-of-Fame, Jimbo chimed in on the vaccination issue ......



Jim Irsay on Players Getting Vaccinated: ‘It’s the Right Thing to Do’

(By MIke Chappell)

https://fox59.com/sports/colts/colts...t-thing-to-do/

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I suspect that some of the issue is that people (in general) don't like to be told what to do ...... even if what they are being told to do is in their best interest.

And I admit that I can relate to that to some degree, but I think that it's important to try to sort through those feelings so as not cut off your nose to spite your face. The players probably ought to get the vaccine, even if they feel like they are being pushed around by the league, the team owners, and/or society at-large.

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You posted Darius my thought was, whats Hootie got to do with this?