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JAFF 09-02-2019 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Workhorse (Post 129225)
Since we don’t have cap issues, does a 3 year deal mean they may not extend Brissett?

No, it means:

1. They have a backup for the next 3 years
2. There were probably several teams who were interested, competition drives up the price
3. Brissett has an agent. Why would he take an extension now? If Brissett is betting on himself (and if hes going to be a great QB he should bet on himself) he will have the advantage in contract negotiations.
4. See above. If Brissett negotiations drag on, the team can still function.
5. Why give him a new contract now? What if he sucks. Colts have a sub 500 season, you trade up in the draft and get a qb. Cut jakob and you have hoyer until rookie is ready.

They sign Brissett to an extention I’d be shocked.

Hoopsdoc 09-02-2019 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 129234)
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Kelly cant be on the active roster. 2 game suspension. He may push someone off the PC when he returns

But if you’re planning on signing Hoyer and keeping Kelly after the suspension, why sign Walker to the practice squad? It doesn’t make sense.

You sign Hoyer to be the backup, and if that falls through, THEN you sign Walker to the PS.

I’m thinking Kelly is not in the future plans either way.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 09-02-2019 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 129238)
But if you’re planning on signing Hoyer and keeping Kelly after the suspension, why sign Walker to the practice squad? It doesn’t make sense.


Because you can easily release Walker from the practice squad?

Walker was released / signed back to the practice squad 8 times last season.


Also - at the time they signed Walker to the PS, Ballard hadn't decided who was going to be the back-up. The front office was weighing the pros / cons of a backup like Hoyer vs. a 2 game stop-gap to Kelly.

Hoopsdoc 09-02-2019 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 129247)
Because you can easily release Walker from the practice squad?

Walker was released / signed back to the practice squad 8 times last season.


Also - at the time they signed Walker to the PS, Ballard hadn't decided who was going to be the back-up. The front office was weighing the pros / cons of a backup like Hoyer vs. a 2 game stop-gap to Kelly.

But if you’ve settled on Kelly as the backup and you’re not sure, but you think you might sign Hoyer, it still doesn’t make sense to waste a PS spot on Walker. As you said, he was off and on all year last year. He’s not going anywhere.

Put a guy like Gerri Green on the practice squad instead wasting a spot on Walker, a guy who isn’t sniffing any other roster. Instead, Walkers on the practice squad and Green is scooped up by New England.

It’s just weird and I think a telltale sign of how they view Kelly and Walker.

Racehorse 09-02-2019 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 129257)
But if you’ve settled on Kelly as the backup and you’re not sure, but you think you might sign Hoyer, it still doesn’t make sense to waste a PS spot on Walker. As you said, he was off and on all year last year. He’s not going anywhere.

Put a guy like Gerri Green on the practice squad instead wasting a spot on Walker, a guy who isn’t sniffing any other roster. Instead, Walkers on the practice squad and Green is scooped up by New England.

It’s just weird and I think a telltale sign of how they view Kelly and Walker.

It is possible that Green was offered a spot and he was also offered other spots and chose to sign elsewhere to get a chance to play sooner.

Dam8610 09-02-2019 12:59 PM

Who was cut to sign Hoyer?

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 09-02-2019 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 129257)

Put a guy like Gerri Green on the practice squad instead wasting a spot on Walker, a guy who isn’t sniffing any other roster. Instead, Walkers on the practice squad and Green is scooped up by New England.


There are currently open spots on the practice squad. Walker is not preventing the signing of another player to the squad as it stands right now.

Green chose to sign with the Cheats. I guess Green or his agent thought there is a clearer pathway to playing time with them. The Colts had hoped to sign Green to their practice squad.

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...12033113866240

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Sixth-round DE Gerri Green is headed to the Patriots practice squad, per source
https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...13524621008897

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Colts did want him back, I was told.

IndyNorm 09-02-2019 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 129218)
I see it as guaranteeing insurance in case Brissett flames out and Kelly stops taking his meds.

I think you're right, and Hoyer's contract probably means we'll be keeping him at least 2 seasons. Hope we still hang onto Kelly unless he screws up again.

Hoopsdoc 09-02-2019 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 129261)
There are currently open spots on the practice squad. Walker is not preventing the signing of another player to the squad as it stands right now.

Green chose to sign with the Cheats. I guess Green or his agent thought there is a clearer pathway to playing time with them. The Colts had hoped to sign Green to their practice squad.

https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...12033113866240



https://twitter.com/JoelAErickson/st...13524621008897

But if Walkers not in your future plans, you don’t sign him at all.

Edit-I suppose they’re thinking they’ll hold on to Walker until week 3, then release him and replace him with Kelly. That way, the Chargers or whoever we play in week 2 can’t sign him just for our game. That makes sense.

VeveJones007 09-02-2019 01:51 PM

Rule of thumb: any 3 year NFL deal is really a 1 year deal with two team options. This in no way guarantees Hoyer is a Colt last 2019.


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