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Racehorse 09-05-2018 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 77601)
I can even live with the DL, even though I don't like it this way. Its a new DC, new scheme (or back to the old scheme), young players, given them a chance. OK, fine

But you have a QB coming off basically two missed seasons and a near career ending shoulder injury, you can't tell me with that much free agent money you couldn't find SOMEONE to pay, even if you overpay for a few years while you develop someone, to play right tackle.

There is no more time to be patient with the OL. Its been a decade and now two injured all pro level QBs that almost ended their careers over playing behind this OL.
And yet, people still think we should have drafted Chubb over Nelson. Can't have it both ways.

DrSpaceman 09-05-2018 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 77623)
And yet, people still think we should have drafted Chubb over Nelson. Can't have it both ways.
I am fine with having drafted Nelson.

And Its not 'both ways'. One is drafting and one is free agency.

The team sucks and there is cap money to be spent. I don't think its unreasonable to use both means to improve the team

Ballard obviously disagrees based on how he approached the offseason

Maniac 09-05-2018 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 77601)
I can even live with the DL, even though I don't like it this way. Its a new DC, new scheme (or back to the old scheme), young players, given them a chance. OK, fine

But you have a QB coming off basically two missed seasons and a near career ending shoulder injury, you can't tell me with that much free agent money you couldn't find SOMEONE to pay, even if you overpay for a few years while you develop someone, to play right tackle.

There is no more time to be patient with the OL. Its been a decade and now two injured all pro level QBs that almost ended their careers over playing behind this OL.
He did pay someone in free agency to play RT, they were just horrible at it. Hopefully that failure will make Ballard second guess his decision to keep scraping up bottom of the barrel free agents.

rm1369 09-05-2018 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 77623)
And yet, people still think we should have drafted Chubb over Nelson. Can't have it both ways.
Through two drafts and two free agent periods (with ample cap available) are you really so naive as to believe taking a guard at 6 was the only way to address the o-line?

JAFF 09-05-2018 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 77687)
Through two drafts and two free agent periods (with ample cap available) are you really so naive as to believe taking a guard at 6 was the only way to address the o-line?
Here's the problem. Time is a great thickener of things. This kid could be the next John Hannah. Why wouldn't you want him?

You know why Jacksonville is so good right now? They control both O and D lines of scrimmage. Their QB can't hit his plate with a fork, but they are in the hunt for a Super Bowl.

When the Colts were dominant with Manning, they had a really good line with a very good LT and a great C. Watch where they run on 3 and short. If they run left up this kids butt, and we get first down, maybe it will sell some people.

Racehorse 09-05-2018 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 77687)
Through two drafts and two free agent periods (with ample cap available) are you really so naive as to believe taking a guard at 6 was the only way to address the o-line?
Of course not.

rm1369 09-05-2018 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 77761)
Of course not.
Then your “can’t have it both ways” argument isn’t accurate. We could have had it both ways. Only Ballard’s decisions kept the Colts from having both an improved Oline and Chubb (or other defensive starters).

Racehorse 09-05-2018 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 77765)
Then your “can’t have it both ways” argument isn’t accurate. We could have had it both ways. Only Ballard’s decisions kept the Colts from having both an improved Oline and Chubb (or other defensive starters).
Surely you aren't so naive as to think that Ballard could have signed any free agent there was this year.

rm1369 09-05-2018 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 77717)

You know why Jacksonville is so good right now? They control both O and D lines of scrimmage. Their QB can't hit his plate with a fork, but they are in the hunt for a Super Bowl.
To me it’s funny you use Jacksonville as your example considering they have been heavy users of free agency - the opposite of Ballard’s approach. They also improved their O-line this offseason by adding an all-pro guard. Didn’t even cost them a top 6 pick.

rm1369 09-05-2018 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 77766)
Surely you aren't so naive as to think that Ballard could have signed any free agent there was this year.
Not any, no. He also had last years draft and free agency as well. The idea Nelson was the only way to improve the line is ridiculous.


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