I havent heard from Irsay since the beginning of the season / seems to me he is stepping back, letting Ballard take reigns.

no dude

pagano has to go. that is the first ball that has to drop. the dude is incompetence at its finest. or worst. however you want to look at it.


ballard needs to take over next year. or right now for that matter. a one voice system like they had with polian.

Yes. Irsay hired Polian and eventually Dungy and let them do their jobs. And the end result was super bowl 41. He is capable of being a decent owner.

It's just that he let 2 con artists fool him in grigson and Pagano. I don't think he will fire in season but I have no doubt Clappy is done in Indy.

After the season he needs to let Ballard hire the coach he wants and those two can run the show.

I have faith in Ballard.

I know it sounds like a broken record but I have been enraged about these fuckers for a long long long long time. This team has to me always played way too coy with the whole injury thing. I have no idea how it works with medical staff when there is a new organization in town- so I can't say that this is the same staff that I completely thought fucked up with Bob and Marvin (I gotta believe Edge's deal was too long ago to be the same folks...). I do know that there has always been something that just did not seem to be right about many of our sort of long term injury situations. It did kind of have the appearance that certain people were forced to come back too early while with a few it felt like something that should have been relatively short term ballooned into chronic situations that ruined careers- at the very least careers while the player was wearing the shoe.

I hope that there is an entire blood letting at the end of the year- I'm okay with Ballard getting some additional time, but i would love to see the absolute entire structure around him put in a pile and burned- preferrably on a windy day so the ashes would blow away and not continue to soil this organization!

I agree that Pagano has to go, and the sooner the better, I do not agree that Ballard is the guy to run the franchise.

Peyton Manning needs to be the guy to run the franchise for the long-term. Ballard needs to be the guy working the year in and year out issues. Our new HC runs the week-to-week stuff.

That is how any good, large scale business runs. People focused on different time frames with linked goals supporting one vision.

Walk Worthy,

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I think (hope) that Manning would make a good team president to with Ballard as GM. Obv Manning has no record here so its just hope and speculation but he has high standards and understands winning culture, and that is the sort of thing we need from a team president: someone to define the culture and vision of the organization. We took for granted how strong the org culture was under the Polian/Dungy/Manning years (and yea I list Manning there because it's well known he was the team leader and shaped the work ethic as much as any of the coaches did) but it's gone to shit because of Grigson and Pagano.

With the exception of the Browns is there a team that's a bigger dumpster fire than we currently are? The Giants and 9ers have to be in the discussion, but with all of the medical mishandling that's going on I think we're in worse shape than they are.

Just curious why you seem to have soured on Ballard.

IMO, he's stuck with the circus this season because Irsay saddled him with Pags.

I think another draft and a competent head coach(hopefully) will have things looking up in no time.

i am disappointed that ballard has not gotten control of this team. this is just a circus in indy and he is the gm. i know his hands are somewhat tied with pagano but holy shit has he let pagano just run wild with his nonsense.