Originally Posted by ChoppedWood
(Post 38559)
Okay, going off memory here. Carroll was pissed off at whichever it is- I think it is Query because yesterday he apparently challenged Will's statement on Facebook yesterday that Irsay was blindsided by this. So the conversation had a hostile tone to start and WC stated without any inference- "The report that Jim Irsay is seething are 100% true". He then went on to state that he wanted to be clear- "Jim Irsay was lied to".
JQ then questioned him and said by who, what is the name. WC said "I am not going to name names", then JQ asked if it was Ballard or if it were on the medical team and he very quickly responded, "no, it was not Ballard, it is medical and there are going to be repercussions from this". They then bantered back and forth about what had been misrepresented. That's when he said that Irsay was not given accurate information about how the rehab had been progressing.
That's when he said that for whatever reason Jim was not being told about the lack of responsiveness to the rehab process. That it finally reached a point where Andrew Luck said "This isn't working, I need to call Drew Brees" and then he ended up seeing Dr. Andrews in Birmingham.
JQ asked if this was a matter of the doctor that did the surgery failing or if this was inside the Colts organzation's medical staff post receovery. WC sort of dodged this. He said that while AL went to his own Dr. out west in situations such as this the team medical staff will be present throughout- even at the surgery (to me this is to imply the surgery was not an issue, it's something after it - which would only make sense that "there will be repercussions" as it's not like Jim can fire a Dr that isn't on staff...).
JQ then asked if this was a case of negligence (I assume trying to flesh out if the repercussion is going to be a lawsuit???)- WC said he was not going to make any type of statement about negligence because he did not know all the details.
It is around that point that he said Luck finally sought these 2nd opinions. He said they are all over the place, some saying he just needs to throw to loosen it up and there is one opinion that a 2nd surgery is necessary.
He then made a cryptic statement about there being a set back over the summer that he was unsure who in the organization was aware of (this is something long rumored and it sure seemed like WC certainly has confirmation there was a problem as early as this summer- and seems to imply that perhaps Irsay was kept in the dark about that event...).
Finally JQ asked if it were at all possible that Luck could actually be at the tail end of the recovery period which can have a range out to 1 year. WC said "Absolutely not" and went on to detail the surgery type and how it was done- and then sort of fired a kill shot by stating "Jay Cutler had it, Cam had it, and they are playing, we've had hundreds of MLB players have it, and they are back in 4-6 months".
If any of this is to be believed, then to me, I hear the belief is the surgery was not a problem but the issue has resulted from something that has happened by way of the Colts medical staff approach to his rehab. It sounds to me like he is trying to state that they did something wrong in mid summer- well before the season, and it fucked the guy up and finally Andrew has conceded that he can't throw the football at present (did they have him throwing too early and the cartilage ripped off the anchors???). It sounds like they then went into CYA mode and tried to string Jim along hoping that it would remedy itself and it would all just be chalked up to his recovery taking just a little longer than anticipated. Much like we've relied on Luck to hide deficiencies it sure sounds like the med staff was hoping Luck would hide their deficiencies with his pure grit.
IF, IF, IF this pans out this way- what a tragedy, and what a reflection on just how badly this organization fucks things up over the last couple years!
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