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Mr. Session 12-08-2025 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 337156)
They're all gonna be a test from here on out. I just want to see the playbook opened for him and an honest chance. I know we were all seduced by the early season success. We knew deep down this is the Colts we expected. Why not find out if this kid can do it. If he can that money they were going to spend on Jones can be spent on defensive help where we need a lot of pieces.

I'm with you. Let the kid run with the fucking ball.

What do we have to lose?

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 12-08-2025 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 337157)
I wonder if this is similar to Tyrese Halliburtons situation where a leg injury that he tried to play through led to the Achilles injury.


I think it is a little different situation because Haliburton strained his right calf which was definitely a precursor to the right Achilles injury.

Jones had been playing through an injury to his left leg and then suffered the right Achilles injury.

Sure, you could say that Jones was compensating for his left leg injury which led to different movements and the Achilles injury on the opposite leg...that can happen although it is less common than further injuring the same leg. But I also wonder how much the weather and field conditions played a factor. It was raining and they should have prepared for wet field conditions. So he was probably wearing something different than what he typically wears when playing in good weather or indoors. And picking the wrong cleats for the conditions can sometimes cause Achilles injuries, too.

sherck 12-08-2025 10:26 AM

Even if Jones has the repair surgery today, it is highly unlikely that he would be ready to play by the beginning of next season. He will not just miss training camp, he will probably miss the first part of next season.

With no existing contract for 2026, I don't wee how any NFL team would do more than sign him to a one year "show me" contract at relative low dollar amounts (somewhere in the $10m - $12m range) so they could start him on the IR, activate him when he is ready and have him battle for the starting postion through the season with whomever they have starting (or as a qualtiy backup if their starter is set and they think they want that extra insurance for the end of the season and playoffs).

Alas, I think the timing is terrible for the Colts. I don't think we can take the risk of signing him to a long-term contract and signing him to a one-year seems like treading water.

Interesting times.

HoosierinFL 12-08-2025 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 337192)
Even if Jones has the repair surgery today, it is highly unlikely that he would be ready to play by the beginning of next season. He will not just miss training camp, he will probably miss the first part of next season.

With no existing contract for 2026, I don't wee how any NFL team would do more than sign him to a one year "show me" contract at relative low dollar amounts (somewhere in the $10m - $12m range) so they could start him on the IR, activate him when he is ready and have him battle for the starting postion through the season with whomever they have starting (or as a qualtiy backup if their starter is set and they think they want that extra insurance for the end of the season and playoffs).

Alas, I think the timing is terrible for the Colts. I don't think we can take the risk of signing him to a long-term contract and signing him to a one-year seems like treading water.

Interesting times.

Its very typically a full 1 year recovery, which would takeus to thr end of next season. Its why Halliburton wont play at all this season.

albany ed 12-08-2025 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 337192)
Even if Jones has the repair surgery today, it is highly unlikely that he would be ready to play by the beginning of next season. He will not just miss training camp, he will probably miss the first part of next season.

With no existing contract for 2026, I don't wee how any NFL team would do more than sign him to a one year "show me" contract at relative low dollar amounts (somewhere in the $10m - $12m range) so they could start him on the IR, activate him when he is ready and have him battle for the starting postion through the season with whomever they have starting (or as a qualtiy backup if their starter is set and they think they want that extra insurance for the end of the season and playoffs).

Alas, I think the timing is terrible for the Colts. I don't think we can take the risk of signing him to a long-term contract and signing him to a one-year seems like treading water.

Interesting times.

I think if it were up to me, I would offer him a 3 year contract at escalating salaries and not much bonus. First year would just be small, second year a little bigger and the third year would be huge. If he doesn't do well in the second year, they can release him and not be on the hook for the large salary in the third year.

Oldcolt 12-08-2025 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 337200)
I think if it were up to me, I would offer him a 3 year contract at escalating salaries and not much bonus. First year would just be small, second year a little bigger and the third year would be huge. If he doesn't do well in the second year, they can release him and not be on the hook for the large salary in the third year.

Something like this or maybe just a one year. First Jones was headed to the part of the season where he would show if he was just off a few games or was reverting back to giant ways. I will say that the interception he threw was pretty bad. Let AR start and if he shits the bed like people here think he will Jones should be available some time time next year (the are doing wonder with Achilles surgery now). AR has been through a ton these last few years. Many here felt he should have sat and watched for a year. Hopefully he has matures this last year. Not holding my breathe for either but I think it is our reality as Colt fans. It frees up money to sign Pierce/Cross etc

CletusPyle 12-09-2025 08:49 AM

We'll probably just have to wait and see what the new GM wants to do with Jones......:D

albany ed 12-09-2025 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 337345)
We'll probably just have to wait and see what the new GM wants to do with Jones......:D

It's funny that this year, Ballard went from a total POS to a brilliant GM when the team was 7 and 1 and then back to being a POS now. I guess the same could be said of Steichen. We fans got way too big for our britches when Jones and the Colts were doing so well. Then it's back to Ballard and Steichen are dumb SOBs. This team was never as good as their 7 and 1 record led us to believe, and IMO they are not as bad as their 1 and 4 record lately. They're the 2025 Colts and 9 and 7 or 8 and 8 is what they've always been.

If you believe that if not for injuries, this team would be 10 and 3 or even better right now, then you can't think Ballard and Steichen are done. If you believe the first half had more to do with weak opponents and an unexpected good performance by a middle of the road QB, then you might feel that Ballard and Steichen are history.

Hoopsdoc 12-09-2025 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 337346)
It's funny that this year, Ballard went from a total POS to a brilliant GM when the team was 7 and 1 and then back to being a POS now. I guess the same could be said of Steichen. We fans got way too big for our britches when Jones and the Colts were doing so well. Then it's back to Ballard and Steichen are dumb SOBs. This team was never as good as their 7 and 1 record led us to believe, and IMO they are not as bad as their 1 and 4 record lately. They're the 2025 Colts and 9 and 7 or 8 and 8 is what they've always been.

If you believe that if not for injuries, this team would be 10 and 3 or even better right now, then you can't think Ballard and Steichen are done. If you believe the first half had more to do with weak opponents and an unexpected good performance by a middle of the road QB, then you might feel that Ballard and Steichen are history.

Great point, Ed. You can’t have it both ways.

Personally, I think this season has shown that this team is a decent quarterback away from being a perennial contender, and has been for awhile.

However, it’s REALLY REALLY hard to find a franchise quarterback in the NFL.

Puck 12-11-2025 11:02 PM

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