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njcoltfan 04-08-2022 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 228341)
I guess you are wanting to judge each player based on their Colts career only?

FWIW - Basham is still playing in the NFL - he finished his fifth year in the league and is under contract for Year 6.

He has played in over 50% of the snaps on defense in each of the last 3 years.

He has recorded double digit QB hits the last 2 years.

Sometimes it takes a bit longer to develop defensive linemen.

Ala Jerry Hughes !!

njcoltfan 04-08-2022 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 228350)
I’m just going off the top two rounds. It’s a bigger gamble after that.

Ballard - Banagu
Grigson - Phillip Dorsett
Polian - Rob Morris or Idrees Bashir (Morris did show up at Sam in the playoffs)
Polian jr - Ugoh
Tobin - Trev Alberts

I don't think the chapter on Banagu is finished yet !!

Oldcolt 04-08-2022 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 228382)
I don't think the chapter on Banagu is finished yet !!

It is fascinating that the dude is still on the team. Somebody loves him, but it sure wasn't the defensive coaches last year. Interesting if he makes a move with the new coaching staff. He hasn't played enough for someone like me to have any opinion on how he plays.

Hoopsdoc 04-08-2022 09:37 AM

For Polian I’d have to include Jacques Mclendon and Quin Pitcock.

ChaosTheory 04-08-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 228376)
I feel like Werner was worse than Dorsett.

For sure. Werner was a higher draft pick than Dorsett. Starts 16 games in three seasons, 6.5 sacks, then out of the league. Dorsett was a bust, too, but at least he's still in the league.


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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 228392)
For Polian I’d have to include Jacques Mclendon and Quin Pitcock.

Yeah, Pitcock was a weird story. When I think of "worst picks" I guess I'm thinking more of 1st and 2nd rounders. I looked at Polian's history and I guess I'd go with Tony Ugoh because he was a 2nd-rounder. I would've said Jerry Hughes but he was actually a player... just not for IND.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 04-08-2022 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 228396)
When I think of "worst picks" I guess I'm thinking more of 1st and 2nd rounders. I looked at Polian's history and I guess I'd go with Tony Ugoh because he was a 2nd-rounder.


To make matters worse, Polian had so much conviction about Ugoh (or was it desperation) that he traded a future 1st round pick in the 2008 draft for the opportunity to select Ugoh in the 2nd round of the 2007 draft.

ChaosTheory 04-08-2022 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 228400)
To make matters worse, Polian had so much conviction about Ugoh (or was it desperation) that he traded a future 1st round pick in the 2008 draft for the opportunity to select Ugoh in the 2nd round of the 2007 draft.

To be fair, though... Didn't Tarik Glenn retire like a month before the 2007 season? I remember reading something about his decision how he regretted it for a while after. I think Ugoh was "supposed" to have more time before being thrown to the wolves.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 04-08-2022 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 228406)
To be fair, though... Didn't Tarik Glenn retire like a month before the 2007 season?

Yeah, Tarik retired before training camp started.

However, all players go through end of season interviews and I would imagine that Tarik probably let Polian know his thoughts that there was a possibility that he may retire over the summer. Polian may have believed that he/Dungy/Manning could talk him into another season, but I always thought drafting Ugoh was a bit of a desperation move by Polian to secure a LT. If Polian was sure that Glenn would stick around, I think he waits until the following off-season to make a move, either through free agency or the draft.

Chromeburn 04-08-2022 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 228376)
I feel like Werner was worse than Dorsett.

Probably, but just trying for something different. Everyone will likely agree on the same things.

Also, I think of context when he took a WR when we obviously needed safety and Collins was sitting there for the taking. Then the rumor that he took him because NE was going to. Just a bad GM.

JAFF 04-08-2022 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 228376)
I feel like Werner was worse than Dorsett.

Dorset couldn’t catch a cold in a hospital ward


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