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Dam8610 04-29-2021 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 191887)
Eichenberg over Cosmi?

Tape over measureables.

Puck 04-29-2021 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 191884)
Also I said I'd do an OT ranking. No discussion, but here it is:

01) Rashawn Slater
02) Teven Jenkins
03) Christian Darrisaw
04) Liam Eichenberg
05) Samuel Cosmi
06) Penei Sewell
07) Dillon Radunz
08) Jalen Mayfield
09) Walker Little
10) Brady Christensen
11) Alex Leatherwood
12) Stone Forsythe
13) Spencer Brown
14) James Hudson

This is just the players I watched personally, and I'll happily give a justification for each ranking if asked. Answering one ahead of time, I know I previously ranked Sewell much lower, the increase in rank says nothing about his tape and everything about his age, build, and potential. To be clear, based on the Colts needing a Day 1 starter, I would not draft Sewell for them were he available, and if Cincinnati drafts him at 5, they won't be doing Joe Burrow any favors in the first year. Perhaps down the line, but I don't think Sewell is a game 1 starter based on his film. I took Vera-Tucker out because IMO he's a guard. His kickstep is too labored and forced to stick at LT, and he can't handle speed.


From your list I'd go this is the order This is how I think they come off the board

1. Penei Sewell
2. Rashawn Slater
3. Christian Darrisaw
4 Walker Little
5. Dillon Radunz
6. Tevin Jenkins
7. Liam Eichenberg
8. Spencer Brown
9. Samuel Cosmi

smitty46953 04-29-2021 03:27 PM

I watch more Notre Dame games than others, I really like Eichenberg. :cool:

Dam8610 04-29-2021 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 191889)
From your list I'd go this is the order This is how I think they come off the board

1. Penei Sewell
2. Rashawn Slater
3. Christian Darrisaw
4 Walker Little
5. Dillon Radunz
6. Tevin Jenkins
7. Liam Eichenberg
8. Spencer Brown
9. Samuel Cosmi

Walker Little has too many question marks to go that high, I don't care how prototypical his build is. Also Jenkins going that low would likely mean Round 2 and I don't see that happening, nor Radunz coming off the board before him. Your list does show how potential pushes players up draft boards, though.

Puck 04-29-2021 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 191892)
Walker Little has too many question marks to go that high, I don't care how prototypical his build is. Also Jenkins going that low would likely mean Round 2 and I don't see that happening, nor Radunz coming off the board before him. Your list does show how potential pushes players up draft boards, though.

I think Jenkin is taken by Raiders as a guard

Little is very intriguing. Probably the most talented

Cosmi doesn't have as much ceiling as the others although he is pretty decent now.

I think the value of the OT's is in the 2nd round. Most are 1st round reaches.

JMO. I'm sure I could be wrong

Dam8610 04-29-2021 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 191896)
I think Jenkin is taken by Raiders as a guard

Little is very intriguing. Probably the most talented

Cosmi doesn't have as much ceiling as the others although he is pretty decent now.

I think the value of the OT's is in the 2nd round. Most are 1st round reaches.

JMO. I'm sure I could be wrong

Jenkins as a guard would be such a waste. The athleticism and technical skill is much better suited outside.

JAFF 04-29-2021 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 191888)
Tape over measureables.

Well shit. We agree.

Puck 04-29-2021 04:46 PM

My quick rankings by position of need.




CB. This is going to be a much higher priority than most people think.

1. Patrick Surtain
2. Jaycee Horn. My favorite player
3. Greg Newsome
4. Caleb Farley



OT. Same as I posted above

1. Penei Sewell
2. Rashawn Slater
3. Christian Darrisaw
4 Walker Little
5. Dillon Radunz
6. Tevin Jenkins
7. Liam Eichenberg
8. Spencer Brown
9. Samuel Cosmi


WR.

1. DeVonta Smith
2. Ja'Marr Chase
3. Jaylen Waddle
4. Rashod Bateman
5. Rondale Moore
6. Kadarius Toney
7. Terrace Marshall Jr.

Edge Very weak class at the top. Probably 4th rounder here


1. Kwity Paye
2. Jaelan Phillips
3. Joe Tryon. OLB but could play DE
4. Gregory Rousseau
5. Azeez Ojulari
6. Carlos Basham Jr.
7. Micah Parsons
8. Jayson Oweh


TE. Only really 3 that I've seen. This is a very big need IMO unless they trade for Ertz

1. Kyle Pitts. I think he may be the best player in the draft behind Lawerence
2. Pat Freiermuth
3. Tommy Tremble

LB Only one I care about is Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah and I would absolutely love the Colts to take him at 21 but he wont be there

I would not at all be surprised by a safety early.


As always JMO

daedge 04-29-2021 05:17 PM

Beers and ribs sorted.
Lets go.

TheMugwump 04-29-2021 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 191880)
I'd actually like to see a trade down or 2. Maybe something like:

Saints get: 21

Colts get: 28, 98, 105

Then:

Jets get: 28

Colts get: 34, 66

Dropping down 13 picks in this scenario would give the Colts 34, 54, 66, 98, and 105, or likely 2 of the top 50, 3 of the top 75, and 5 of the top 100 players in this draft. I think if you don't get Jenkins or Phillips, this is probably the best play.

If Indy could turn the 21st pick into five out of the top 100 by trading back only 13 picks total? Total Ballard move too.


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