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Luck4Reich 03-12-2017 05:28 PM

Jags fans on Twitter think they have won SuperBowl with this news... lmao. They are the dumbest fucking fans in all of NFL... and it's hard to be dumber than Cowboys fans... wow!

natagu23 03-12-2017 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 6210)
With their defense and Coughlin running the franchise

Hate to break it to you, but the Jags are not going anywhere with Bortles as their Qb.

I dont care who's running their franchise.

njcoltfan 03-12-2017 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 6213)
Hate to break it to you, but the Jags are not going anywhere with Bortles as their Qb.

I dont care who's running their franchise.

We'll see

Luck4Reich 03-12-2017 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 6215)
We'll see

There is nothing to see... you don't win in the NFL with a shitty fucking QB.. end of discussion!

Oldcolt 03-12-2017 06:25 PM

I take comfort that Ballard doesn't want to overpay for Poe. I don't like "winning" the off season anyway. Most of the time it doesn't pan out in the real season.

Dewey 5 03-12-2017 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuck4Chuck (Post 6216)
There is nothing to see... you don't win in the NFL with a shitty fucking QB.. end of discussion!

Unless you're playing against the colts. We make every qb look like an all-pro.

I'm sure the colts & jags will battle it out for last place.

They might have bad qb play but we have worse coaching.

Butter 03-12-2017 07:15 PM

According to Blue HQ media on twitter
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Being told Poe has left the building. Colts didn't want to do a 1 yr deal & he wanted minimum of 5 yrs and $45M. Apparently no deal. #Colts
Hell no to 5/45.

natagu23 03-12-2017 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 6222)
According to Blue HQ media on twitter

Hell no to 5/45.

Thats not bad imo.

George Wonsley 03-12-2017 07:28 PM

So much would depend on how deal like that was structured....

omahacolt 03-12-2017 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 6223)
Thats not bad imo.

i am not great at math but that is something like 9 mil a season.


depends on the guarantees. no deal is truly a 5 year deal in that range

njcoltfan 03-12-2017 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 6222)
According to Blue HQ media on twitter

Hell no to 5/45.

He'll get that from the Jags

njcoltfan 03-12-2017 07:57 PM

So who's our NT, Parry, if he's not in jail ??

Butter 03-12-2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 6223)
Thats not bad imo.

If there were not concerns about his back, sure. A 350 lber with back issues I don't love it, unless the contract was very well structured to get out of by season 3.

Brylok 03-12-2017 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 6228)
So who's our NT, Parry, if he's not in jail ??

Current Colts DTs: Parry, Anderson, McGill, Ridgeway, Art Jones. That's the roster.

smitty46953 03-12-2017 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 6199)
Josina Anderson‏Verified account
@JosinaAnderson I'm told DT Dontari Poe's visit w/t #Colts "went well." There's "no deal" at this time. He's scheduled to travel for a visit with the #Jags.



Deals sometimes still happen after players leave without a contract. But it's rare :cool:

and somewhere Art Jones lets out a huge "SIGH" ... :cool:

FatDT 03-12-2017 08:22 PM

$9 million per doesn't seem that bad. So if the Colts wouldn't do it that tells me they're not sure about his back or about his production. Disappointing.

omahacolt 03-12-2017 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 6234)
$9 million per doesn't seem that bad. So if the Colts wouldn't do it that tells me they're not sure about his back or about his production. Disappointing.

but lets cool off on that rumor though

that asshole is wrong a lot.

sherck 03-12-2017 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 6231)
Current Colts DTs: Parry, Anderson, McGill, Ridgeway, Art Jones. That's the roster.

NT = Perry (currently)

DE (5 tech) = Jones, Langford, Anderson, Ridgeway, McGill

A couple of nice NT in draft. I don't want to draft 2 but we need good NT play this year.

Cheers,

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

njcoltfan 03-12-2017 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 6238)
NT = Perry (currently)

DE (5 tech) = Jones, Langford, Anderson, Ridgeway, McGill

A couple of nice NT in draft. I don't want to draft 2 but we need good NT play this year.

Cheers,

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

So now DL becomes a big need in the draft. Gonna be another long season.

DrSpaceman 03-12-2017 09:55 PM

Why not offer like 3 years 30 million?

Big difference between a one and 5 year deal

VeveJones007 03-12-2017 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 6230)
If there were not concerns about his back, sure. A 350 lber with back issues I don't love it, unless the contract was very well structured to get out of by season 3.

And this is exactly why a 1 year deal works for the Colts. If he's good and healthy, tag/extend him. If he isn't, then you aren't on the hook after 2017.

OneVoice 03-12-2017 10:33 PM

NFL.com has "IND" interested in Cordarelle Patterson?

Just mentioning it because I haven't seen anything reported.

Butter 03-12-2017 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 6260)
And this is exactly why a 1 year deal works for the Colts. If he's good and healthy, tag/extend him. If he isn't, then you aren't on the hook after 2017.

Right, I would feel much more comfortable with that. I suppose any contract could be structered to basically leave that flexibility, but I suspect he wants some major money guaranteed for a multi year deal, and who an really blame him.

rcubed 03-13-2017 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 6264)
Right, I would feel much more comfortable with that. I suppose any contract could be structered to basically leave that flexibility, but I suspect he wants some major money guaranteed for a multi year deal, and who an really blame him.

Yeah, i bet he is looking for as much guaranteed money as possible as this could be his last chance to cash in

FatDT 03-13-2017 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 6265)
Yeah, i bet he is looking for as much guaranteed money as possible as this could be his last chance to cash in

He's only 26. If he's healthy enough to warrant a contract now he has as good a chance as anyone to earn another contract after this one.

Butter 03-13-2017 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 6266)
He's only 26. If he's healthy enough to warrant a contract now he has as good a chance as anyone to earn another contract after this one.

The "If" is the overriding concern. 350 lbs suspect back.

Wyatt 03-13-2017 07:39 AM

FWIW re Poe
 
https://i.imgur.com/P5f1Bsv.png?1

some jack wagon changed his wiki page (it's already been changed back)

sherck 03-13-2017 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NoLuck4Chuck (Post 6212)
Jags fans on Twitter think they have won SuperBowl with this news... lmao. They are the dumbest fucking fans in all of NFL... and it's hard to be dumber than Cowboys fans... wow!

Holy Cow. From Peter King's MMQB:
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• Testing Shad Khan’s patience. The Jags committing $541 million to free agents in 25 months. This is the third straight year we’ll think, This is the year they turn the corner. But we still have no idea if they’ll be any good.

• Unrestricted free agents signed by Jacksonville since March 2015: 19.

• Total contract dollars committed to those free agents: $541.2 million.

• Actual dollars spent so far on 2015 and ’16 free agents: $128.6 million.

• Jacksonville’s record since March 2015: 8-24.
Those are amazing numbers.

The Jags are the 201Xs version of the 2000s Dan Synder Washington Redskins.

Let's see if Ballard is wrong and you CAN buy a locker room.

Cheers,

ukcolt 03-13-2017 08:01 AM

I would like to have a healthy Poe on our defense, but i am happy with how Ballard has approached free agency. He has a figure in mind and has stuck to it, he isn't going to get into risky contracts. I also have no issue with Poe taking other visits to see what's out there and if he decides that his best situation is with the Colts then great.

People seem to think that every player plays this game to win a Superbowl, that is the icing on the cake for a player, but ultimately he is looking after himself and his family and needs to take the situation that best suits him, be that financial or being closer to family etc.

We as fans in our everyday work life move companies to further our careers, and generally have little loyalty to a company....why do we think that players shouldn't think this way as well? They are a commodity, and need to try to maximise their earnings over what is usually a short career. Sure we have an undivided loyalty to our team, but these players might be drafted by a team that when they were growing up was the team they despised as a fan.

Spike 03-13-2017 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 6278)
Holy Cow. From Peter King's MMQB:

Those are amazing numbers.

The Jags are the 201Xs version of the 2000s Dan Synder Washington Redskins.

Let's see if Ballard is wrong and you CAN buy a locker room.

Cheers,

Add in the fact that the Jags are always near the top of the draft and you would think they would have fielded a contender by now.

indycolts2 03-13-2017 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ukcolt (Post 6279)
I would like to have a healthy Poe on our defense, but i am happy with how Ballard has approached free agency. He has a figure in mind and has stuck to it, he isn't going to get into risky contracts. I also have no issue with Poe taking other visits to see what's out there and if he decides that his best situation is with the Colts then great.

People seem to think that every player plays this game to win a Superbowl, that is the icing on the cake for a player, but ultimately he is looking after himself and his family and needs to take the situation that best suits him, be that financial or being closer to family etc.

We as fans in our everyday work life move companies to further our careers, and generally have little loyalty to a company....why do we think that players shouldn't think this way as well? They are a commodity, and need to try to maximise their earnings over what is usually a short career. Sure we have an undivided loyalty to our team, but these players might be drafted by a team that when they were growing up was the team they despised as a fan.

You could fill in for Dan Lebatard with that take.

YDFL Commish 03-13-2017 10:40 AM

What do you guys think of Jonathan Hankins as a possible younger cheaper alternative to POE?

Puck 03-13-2017 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 6299)
What do you guys think of Jonathan Hankins as a possible younger cheaper alternative to POE?

Or Bennie Logan

natagu23 03-13-2017 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 6299)
What do you guys think of Jonathan Hankins as a possible younger cheaper alternative to POE?

Meh

He's not very good but we need a big body with some experience.

natagu23 03-13-2017 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 6300)
Or Bennie Logan

He'd be a better option

Puck 03-13-2017 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 6302)
He'd be a better option



Could actually sign them both for less than Poe I bet

Wyatt 03-13-2017 11:08 AM

@AdamSchefter 3m3 minutes ago
After visiting the NY Jets, Patriots free-agent LB Dont'a Hightower is scheduled to visit the Steelers, per source.

@AdamSchefter 28s29 seconds ago
Steelers' LB Jarvis Jones is visiting today with the Arizona Cardinals, per source. Steelers remain interested, still in discussions

sherck 03-13-2017 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 6299)
What do you guys think of Jonathan Hankins as a possible younger cheaper alternative to POE?

I think Hankins is NFL average and that he is not a true 3-4 0-tech NT.

He is the 4-3 defense 1/2-tech NT that the Giants run. He is more used to being a 1-gap shooter rather than being a 2-gap "stuffer." I think he could fit into a Colts defense well that is in serious need of "SOMEONE" at NT but I don't know that he is a great fit.

Bennie Logan from PHI is also a solid choice for the Colts. He is also a 4-3 defense, 1/2-tech NT that saw some 0-tech NT work this year as PHI ran a bit of a hybrid defense.

Nabbing one of those two guys and then pairing him with a mid-round draft choice rookie would help stabilize our NT spot. Most of the following guys should be available in the 4th or 5th rounds:

Dalvin Tomlinson, Alabama
Elijah Qualls, Washington
Vincent Taylor, Oklahoma State
Eddie Vanderdoes, UCLA
DeAngelo Brown, Louisville

DeAngelo Brown is the one that really intrigues me.

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12/26/16 - 2016 ALL-ACC FOOTBALL THIRD TEAM (COACHES): DT DeAngelo Brown, Sr.-R, Louisville (15),...Anchoring the middle of the defense, Brown, a starter in all 12 games, recorded 37 tackles and a team-high 12.0 tackles for loss, while also notching 3.0 sacks. - Louisville Football
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Name: DeAngelo Brown
Position: Defensive tackle
School: Louisville
Height/weight: 6-0, 312
Year: Senior
Pros: ESPN Scouts Inc. likes Brown as a "scheme versatile run defender. Pads rise and he gets stood up at times but tends to generate above average initial surge and flashes ability to drive offensive linemen back."

"He's one of the strongest guys I've ever been around," defensive line coach L.D. Scott told the Louisville Courier-Journal. "He is hard to move. You can double- or triple-team, and you're still not going to move him."

Cons: Brown suffered a torn Achilles in summer workouts, which cost him the 2013 season. That surely will be a topic for teams assessing him for the draft.

Projection: Fifth round
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ACC analyst John Breitenbach goes to bat for one of the better interior defensive linemen from the conference in Louisville’s DeAngelo Brown. It’s been three years of consistently strong play up front for Brown as he’s shown stout against the run, handling double teams and finishing plays, while flashing just enough as a pass-rusher. Brown has increased his snap count from 353 in 2014, to 595 in 2015, to 743 last season, all while keeping a solid overall grade in the low-80s. He provides a late-round nose tackle option and he’s one of the better players who was not invited to the NFL Combine
I am sure that you can find a lot of positive comments about all the kids that are draftable this year. But I like what I read and see on video about Brown.

Cheers,

Wyatt 03-13-2017 12:44 PM

@AdamSchefter 7m7 minutes ago
Colts LB Erik Walden is visiting the Titans today, per source.

sherck 03-13-2017 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 6327)
@AdamSchefter 7m7 minutes ago
Colts LB Erik Walden is visiting the Titans today, per source.

I hope they pay him a TON for his "sack master" status because I don't think he will hit that high water mark again.

Suck the money out of their cap, Erik! Do one more good deed for the Colts! :)

Cheers,


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