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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 32015)

he was also brought back wasn't he? although i am not talking specifically about shipley

What? Shipley never came back here after 2012. He's actually followed Arians around the league for most of his career. But if you're not talking about Shipley, what are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 31914)

If that were the case, you'd see a bunch of former Colts becoming starters and major contributors around the league. That doesn't happen because there's not some treasure trove of talent just sitting on the bench, waiting for their opportunity. Grigson left this roster in terrible shape, and Ballard was never going to be able to completely rebuild it in one offseason. If you have no good options (like at ILB or QB in week 1), you have to play the best bad option. That doesn't mean it isn't a bad option, or that Pagano thinks it's a good option.

TJ Green is nobody’s best option, bad or otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 32024)

What? Shipley never came back here after 2012. He's actually followed Arians around the league for most of his career. But if you're not talking about Shipley, what are you talking about?

You are incorrect, Shipley came back to the Colts in 2014

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On August 31, 2014, the Indianapolis Colts claimed Shipley off of waivers after starting center Khaled Holmes suffered an injury during the first snap of the preseason.[24]

He was immediately inserted into a competition for the starting center position against rookie Jonotthan Harrison. Shipley was named the starting center for the season opener against the Denver Broncos. After starting and playing well in the first four games, he was surprisingly demoted to the backup position behind undrafted rookie Jonotthan Harrison. He finished the 2014 season playing in 15 games, started five, and was ranked as the 13th highest graded center in the NFL by Pro Football Focus.[20][25]

That certainly sounds like a coaching gaffe.

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 32027)

You are incorrect, Shipley came back to the Colts in 2014

You're right, my bad, missed it when I looked it up earlier.

That certainly sounds like a coaching gaffe.

What? It's a coaching gaffe to be told who to play and then have the GM not retain a player?

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 32024)

What? Shipley never came back here after 2012. He's actually followed Arians around the league for most of his career. But if you're not talking about Shipley, what are you talking about?

wrong as usual.

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 32029)

What? It's a coaching gaffe to be told who to play and then have the GM not retain a player?

no fucker

i was right and you were wrong. you aren't man enough to say that are you.

pagano gets all the blame, but that was a hell of a 1st half

2 good challenges by Pagano, team looked ready to play even with a backups backup center in the loudest stadium. 2nd half just went to shit after the fumble returned for 6, then Hookers INT and they settle for 3- Ballgame

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 32041)

no fucker

i was right and you were wrong. you aren't man enough to say that are you.

Clearly you have reading comprehension problems as well as a selective memory. 2014 was the time period that Grigson was dictating who started. Shipley was retained through that season, then allowed to hit free agency. 0% of what happened with Shipley was a Pagano decision.

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 32024)

What? Shipley never came back here after 2012. He's actually followed Arians around the league for most of his career. But if you're not talking about Shipley, what are you talking about?

This is what I am talking about idiot.

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 32051)

This is what I am talking about idiot.

Read my response to Coltsalr, idiot.