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Dam8610 08-29-2017 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 22937)
Well now that you explain what you mean, that is even more convoluted and wrong.

So a timeout called by Pagano that would have run off an extra THIRTY SECOND OR MORE DOES NOT MATTER, but an extra 14 seconds that was not run off by Luck DOES MATTER?

No, you are still wrong.

12 seconds was all that was needed. It doesn't matter when it occurred. You just stated that 14 seconds would've been enough, but now that you see it goes against the argument that fits your narrative, you change your tune. The timeout no more cost the team the game than the failure to completely run off the play clock on the TD play, by your own admission.

DrSpaceman 08-29-2017 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 22952)
12 seconds was all that was needed. It doesn't matter when it occurred. You just stated that 14 seconds would've been enough, but now that you see it goes against the argument that fits your narrative, you change your tune. The timeout no more cost the team the game than the failure to completely run off the play clock on the TD play, by your own admission.

Actually it cost them at least 16-26 seconds more than the play you mentioned. Lucks play it would have been tight at the end, in a different situation they could have shaved off the two or three extra seconds needed. If Pagano doesn't call the time out, its not even close to them having enough time. Game is over once they score no matter what Luck does.

And the head coach is the primary person in charge of clock management at the end of the game.

smitty46953 08-29-2017 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 22952)
12 seconds was all that was needed. It doesn't matter when it occurred. You just stated that 14 seconds would've been enough, but now that you see it goes against the argument that fits your narrative, you change your tune. The timeout no more cost the team the game than the failure to completely run off the play clock on the TD play, by your own admission.

Dam, dam you just keep getting worse. Once upon a time you offered some interesting content. Now you just look for arguments with every post. Life that bad ? :cool:

Dam8610 08-29-2017 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 22974)
Dam, dam you just keep getting worse. Once upon a time you offered some interesting content. Now you just look for arguments with every post. Life that bad ? :cool:

Life is pretty good, actually. I'm not looking for arguments, but I'm stubborn and no one here seems to believe in agree to disagree, so it happens. We'll see what happens this season. I'm hopeful for the best, but things don't look too great right now with two of the team's best players recovering from injuries. If the "fire Pagano" crowd gets their way, I doubt it will take long for them to turn on the next guy.

omahacolt 08-29-2017 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 23023)
Life is pretty good, actually. I'm not looking for arguments, but I'm stubborn and no one here seems to believe in agree to disagree, so it happens. We'll see what happens this season. I'm hopeful for the best, but things don't look too great right now with two of the team's best players recovering from injuries. If the "fire Pagano" crowd gets their way, I doubt it will take long for them to turn on the next guy.

There is no reason to be pro pagano. Unless you are a fucking moron that can't admit he is wrong

apballin 08-29-2017 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 23033)
There is no reason to be pro pagano. Unless you are a fucking moron that can't admit he is wrong

other than the fact he doesn't have a losing record and I for one am not sold on a big name guy like Gruden or whatever other college coach or current NFL analyst he would call up

omahacolt 08-29-2017 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 23039)
other than the fact he doesn't have a losing record and I for one am not sold on a big name guy like Gruden or whatever other college coach or current NFL analyst he would call up

You are clearly a moron. We have read your posts the last couple years

nate505 08-29-2017 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 23039)
other than the fact he doesn't have a losing record and I for one am not sold on a big name guy like Gruden or whatever other college coach or current NFL analyst he would call up

His winning record is 100% dependent on the fact the Colts played in such a dog crap division for the majority of his career.

Pags is 19-6 against the AFC South. His total coaching record in the regular season is 39-28. Take out the crappy AFC South and his record is 20-22. Oh, and the South is getting better and surprise surprise, his record over the last 2 years against them has been 7-5, which is still winning but a lot closer to reality.

apballin 08-30-2017 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 23062)
His winning record is 100% dependent on the fact the Colts played in such a dog crap division for the majority of his career.

Pags is 19-6 against the AFC South. His total coaching record in the regular season is 39-28. Take out the crappy AFC South and his record is 20-22. Oh, and the South is getting better and surprise surprise, his record over the last 2 years against them has been 7-5, which is still winning but a lot closer to reality.

And how many games has Luck missed the last 2 years?

I'd factor that in myself

IndyNorm 09-03-2017 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 22569)
Holy shit! Someone admitted it! We're making progress!

First off I've never said that Grigs didn't suck; I've just always said Clappy is just as bad or worse due to everything I outlined in my post which you've completely blocked out. Must hurt to get some realism on your hero.


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