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YDFL Commish 04-29-2018 07:48 AM

Hopefully the drafting of Nelson and Smith means I will never see VJ in a Colts uniform again.

Racehorse 04-29-2018 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 64967)
You can't say this but simultaneously saying that spending plentiful cap space in FA on a 27 year old All Pro guard would've been too costly. I think that is his point.

Poor people think like this. I don't like the mentality that says if you have twn million dollars, you have to spend it. Well, unless you like being broke all the time.

Racehorse 04-29-2018 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 64976)
I think it goes without saying that we can’t evaluate Nelson or the situation yet. But doesn’t that also apply to the guys measuring him for his hall of fame jacket already too? But ultimately what’s the fun in that? I’ve given my opinion on the pick and I’ll happily admit I’m wrong if Nelson ends up in Canton and the Colts win some titles behind the strength of their offensive line. Will others admit they were wrong if Nelson is a top guard but the team is bounced earlier than expect in the playoffs every year because they lack defensive difference makers?

You are confusing us with Dam. We admit it when we are proven wrong.

Racehorse 04-29-2018 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 65080)
Can somebody explain in detail, rather than just stating it as a conclusion, why they think picking an exceptional guard prospect like Nelson at #6 is too high? Virtually every projection had him going in the 5-8 range. This isn't a situation where the Colts picked someone way before they were expected to be picked. Yet it seems to be a working assumption here that taking any guard, even one of Nelson's apparent caliber, at #6 was some sort of reach. I don't get it.

I read GoBigBlue's criticism at the outset of this thread, and Chromeburn's explanation of why an OT is usually considered more valuable than a guard, but neither have really answered my question about why it is impossible for an exceptional guard prospect like Nelson to merit being picked at #6, or why GBB's belief that an opposing team can simply avoid a guard would not also apply to an OT picked at the top of the draft.

People keep calling for nasty big uglies, but when we draft one, they whine.

Butter 04-29-2018 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 65911)
People keep calling for nasty big uglies, but when we draft one, they whine.

No one is complaining about drafting a Big Ugly, it is where he was drafted. You are better than this kind of bullshit.

rm1369 04-29-2018 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 65907)
Poor people think like this. I don't like the mentality that says if you have twn million dollars, you have to spend it. Well, unless you like being broke all the time.

If you think it’s anything like that then you don’t get the argument at all. Or you are purposely being an ass. Cap space has a value. Draft picks have a value. Considering the current abundance of cap space and the scarcity of top 10 picks I simply place a higher value on draft picks. If you don’t then fine. But don’t act stupid about it.

YDFL Commish 04-29-2018 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 65913)
If you think it’s anything like that then you don’t get the argument at all. Or you are purposely being an ass. Cap space has a value. Draft picks have a value. Considering the current abundance of cap space and the scarcity of top 10 picks I simply place a higher value on draft picks. If you don’t then fine. But don’t act stupid about it.

Value is in the eye of the team bulider. In the case...Ballard was embarrassed by how we got beat up front, and aimed to fix it.

FatDT 04-29-2018 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 65907)
Poor people think like this. I don't like the mentality that says if you have twn million dollars, you have to spend it. Well, unless you like being broke all the time.

What a completely irrelevant and non-football-related analogy you’ve come up with here. Really, really stupid. You’re being a real dipshit Race.

rm1369 04-29-2018 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 65917)
Value is in the eye of the team bulider. In the case...Ballard was embarrassed by how we got beat up front, and aimed to fix it.

Understood. Ballard appears to agree with Race that it was better to overpay in draft capital than in salary. I just disagree. I’d rather have Norwell or Pugh and Roquan Smith than Nelson and cap space.

Dewey 5 04-29-2018 11:15 PM

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The 2018 Draft is over & here is my favorite tidbit: In several facilities, Notre Dame guard Quenton Nelson was nicknamed “Earl Grey” or some variation because all he did on film was teabag dudes after he drove their faces in the turf. Future bodyguard for #Colts QB Andrew Luck.


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