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Old 02-22-2021, 12:00 AM
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Still early & we have to see if Ballard makes any FA moves but we need a LT & Christian Darrisaw might be a solid pick at #21.
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I would rate our "needs" as:

#1 = Left Offensive Tackle
#2 = Cornerback #1
#3 = Wide Receiver #1
#4 = Defensive End
#5 = Tight End

CB1 and WR1 could be filled by re-signing Xavier and T.Y. -- OR -- it is a pretty deep free agency class for those two positions.

Either way, both positions need time to adjust to the NFL and I would suspect we will sign a veteran one way or the other.

DE is also pretty deep in free agency. I would expect us to sign one or two (Autry and one other?)

While there are OTs out there in free agency, I suspect that Ballard is going to draft a rookie with his 1st round pick.

You cannot sign every offensive lineman to a top veteran deal after their rookie contract expires and he has to sign Smith after 2021 and Nelson after 2022. A rookie LT would not need to be re-signed until after 2026 with the 5th year option and would be low money until then.

It also opens up the possibility of drafting a new right guard in 2022 with our 2nd or 3rd round pick when Glowinski's contract expires to try and keep the position group cap hit lower.

So, veteran free agency for WR (1 or 2), CB (1 or 2) and DE (1 or 2).

Draft for left OT, TE, OT depth and whatever after that.
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Still early & we have to see if Ballard makes any FA moves but we need a LT & Christian Darrisaw might be a solid pick at #21.
There could be 5-6 tackles picked in the first round this year. Itís a good year to need a tackle.
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There could be 5-6 tackles picked in the first round this year. Itís a good year to need a tackle.
I don't see that many Too many other players with better value. May have an outside shot at Darrisaw but otherwise I'd wait until the second round or trade back a few spots grab a 3rd if they have a tackle graded high on their board.

Here is a list from a Big Board ranking from Tankathon

1 Clemson
Trevor Lawrence
QB | Clemson
6'6"
220 lbs

2 Oregon
Penei Sewell
OT | Oregon
6'6"
325 lbs

3 BYU
Zach Wilson
QB | BYU
6'3"
210 lbs

4 Ohio State
Justin Fields
QB | Ohio State
6'3"
228 lbs

5 Alabama
DeVonta Smith
WR | Alabama
6'1"
175 lbs

6 LSU
Ja'Marr Chase
WR | LSU
6'1"
200 lbs

7 Florida
Kyle Pitts
TE | Florida
6'6"
239 lbs

8 North Dakota State
Trey Lance
QB | North Dakota State
6'4"
226 lbs

9 Alabama
Patrick Surtain II
CB | Alabama
6'2"
203 lbs

10 Penn State
Micah Parsons
OLB/ILB | Penn State
6'3"
244 lbs

11 Virginia Tech
Caleb Farley
CB | Virginia Tech
6'2"
207 lbs

12 Northwestern
Rashawn Slater
OT | Northwestern
6'3"
305 lbs

13 Alabama
Jaylen Waddle
WR | Alabama
5'10"
182 lbs

14 Michigan
Kwity Paye
EDGE | Michigan
6'4"
272 lbs

15 Miami
Gregory Rousseau
EDGE | Miami
6'6"
251 lbs

16 Virginia Tech
Christian Darrisaw
OT | Virginia Tech
6'5"
313 lbs

17 Notre Dame
Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
OLB | Notre Dame
6'2"
216 lbs

18 South Carolina
Jaycee Horn
CB | South Carolina
6'1"
200 lbs

20 Alabama
Christian Barmore
DL | Alabama
6'5"
310 lbs

21 Alabama
Mac Jones
QB | Alabama
6'2"
214 lbs

22 Tulsa
Zaven Collins
EDGE | Tulsa
6'4"
260 lbs

23 Georgia
Azeez Ojulari
EDGE | Georgia
6'3"
240 lbs

24 Florida
Kadarius Toney
WR | Florida
6'0"
194 lbs

25 Alabama
Najee Harris
RB | Alabama
6'2"
230 lbs

26 Minnesota
Rashod Bateman
WR | Minnesota
6'2"
210 lbs

27 Miami
Jaelan Phillips
EDGE | Miami
6'5"
255 lbs

28 Texas
Samuel Cosmi
OT | Texas
6'7"
300 lbs

29 Michigan
Jalen Mayfield
OT | Michigan
6'5"
319 lbs

30 Alabama
Alex Leatherwood
OT | Alabama
6'6"
310 lbs

31 Texas
Joseph Ossai
OLB | Texas
6'4"
253 lbs

32 Oklahoma State
Teven Jenkins
OT | Oklahoma State
6'6"
320 lbs

33 Clemson
Travis Etienne
RB | Clemson
5'10"
200 lbs

34 Missouri
Nick Bolton
OLB | Missouri
6'0"
235 lbs

35 TCU
Trevon Moehrig
S | TCU
6'2"
208 lbs

36 LSU
Terrace Marshall Jr.
WR | LSU
6'4"
200 lbs

38 Georgia
Tyson Campbell
CB | Georgia
6'2"
185 lbs

39 Penn State
Jayson Oweh
EDGE | Penn State
6'5"
257 lbs

40 Wake Forest
Carlos Basham Jr.
EDGE | Wake Forest
6'5"
275 lbs
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I don't see that many Too many other players with better value. May have an outside shot at Darrisaw but otherwise I'd wait until the second round or trade back a few spots grab a 3rd if they have a tackle graded high on their board.

Here is a list from a Big Board ranking from Tankathon

1 Clemson
Trevor Lawrence
QB | Clemson
6'6"
220 lbs

2 Oregon
Penei Sewell
OT | Oregon
6'6"
325

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You don’t see that many, then post a list with 6 tackles in the top 32 players. I also think Radunz will start working his way up. Guy was one of the best at the senior bowl, is very smart, and moves really well. I think he is a LT. Then you got others like the ND kid. Very good tackle class.

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You don’t see that many, then post a list with 6 tackles in the top 32 players. I also think Radunz will start working his way up. Guy was one of the best at the senior bowl, is very smart, and moves really well. I think he is a LT. Then you got others like the ND kid. Very good tackle class.

There is actually 7 OT's listed - Leatherwood at #30 was accidentally missed
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Colts pick at #21.

5 QB's will probably be picked, that moves us up to position 16 for other positions. We know Sewell (OT) and Pitts (TE) and a minimum of 2 wide receivers will be picked before the Colts pick. So at a minimum after these guys are picked, we are at #12. We should have a damn great chance at landing a good OT or DE. Really looking forward to this draft.
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You donít see that many, then
I think Puck was saying that there aren't many options value-wise at the spot where the Colts are drafting.

The Colts draft at #21. There are no OT's listed between 17 and 27.

Darrisaw could be there. If Darrisaw is already picked, and the Colts select a OT at #21, the Colts will likely be drafting for need and not BPA. The Colts could potentially trade back a few spots and still pick up one of the next group of OT's in the late 20's - early 30's.

Of course, the draft board order will change 20 times between now and draft day.
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I think Puck was saying that there aren't many options value-wise at the spot where the Colts are drafting.

The Colts draft at #21. There are no OT's listed between 17 and 27.

Darrisaw could be there. If Darrisaw is already picked, and the Colts select a OT at #21, the Colts will likely be drafting for need and not BPA. The Colts could potentially trade back a few spots and still pick up one of the next group of OT's in the late 20's - early 30's.

Of course, the draft board order will change 20 times between now and draft day.
I really like Some of the edge guys and CB’s that could be available But the talking heads think Ballard is going all in for FA pass rush this yr.
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I think Puck was saying that there aren't many options value-wise at the spot where the Colts are drafting.

The Colts draft at #21. There are no OT's listed between 17 and 27.

Darrisaw could be there. If Darrisaw is already picked, and the Colts select a OT at #21, the Colts will likely be drafting for need and not BPA. The Colts could potentially trade back a few spots and still pick up one of the next group of OT's in the late 20's - early 30's.

Of course, the draft board order will change 20 times between now and draft day.
Thatís pretty subjective. Lists will range all over the place with this group. For example after the top two options will start to differ.

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-...ackle-rankings

I do know itís a position you shouldnít get cute with. Just draft the best one you can. Hopefully you get a guy who can fill the position for ten years+.
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