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Old 01-15-2019, 02:25 PM
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I think your perception is pretty off. Brissett isn't irreplaceable, but he's definitely on a higher level than Nathan Peterman, for example. There are some bad backup QBs that can't handle much real NFL playing time. With a good team and coaching staff around him I think Brissett can win.
Iíd agree - but thatís why heís more valuable as a trade commodity than as a backup QB. I donít see the Colts being able to retain him long term. Iíd guess he will want a shot as a full time starter and I think heís shown enough to get one.
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Old 01-15-2019, 02:27 PM
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Matt Miller posted a new mock today. I think the note at the end is particularly interesting as we think about the best combined approach between UFA and the draft.

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The Pick: N'Keal Harry, Wide Receiver, Arizona State

The Indianapolis Colts made a fantastic turnaround in 2018 en route to a playoff berth and Wild Card Round victory. They are close, but general manager Chris Ballard needs one more draft to get them into serious contention.

Ballard and his excellent team of scouts will be looking to improve the offense and could do so by adding a marquee target for Andrew Luck in the first round. N'Keal Harry has excellent size (6'4", 213 lbs) and has dominated after the catch at Arizona State.

The Colts do have needs on defense, especially a pass-rusher, but the free-agent class this year is rich at the edge. Paying for a pass rush and drafting wide receivers is the better move this offseason.
Harry has the type of size that I think Ballard wants (over a guy like Marquise Brown). Definitely someone to keep an eye on and see how he runs at the combine.
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Old 01-15-2019, 02:29 PM
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He's right, there are many pass rushers in their contract year. But realistically how many will get to FA?
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He's right, there are many pass rushers in their contract year. But realistically how many will get to FA?
I think we need to plan to address the pass rush through the draft, be conservative with FA's, but also not afraid to jump at someone IF the come available.
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Matt Miller posted a new mock today. I think the note at the end is particularly interesting as we think about the best combined approach between UFA and the draft.



Harry has the type of size that I think Ballard wants (over a guy like Marquise Brown). Definitely someone to keep an eye on and see how he runs at the combine.
Ballard talked about bolstering the lines quite a bit in his post presser. I have a hard time seeing him drafting a receiver 1st. Especially with all the line talent in this draft. Iíve seen quite a few mocks with a WR first. Just donít see it happening.

Iíve seen Harry play a couple times. Makes great catches, but I worry about his ability to separate. I want to see his 40 and 3-come Times first. I seeso many of his catches contested and the pac-12 doesnít have that great of corners.
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Old 01-15-2019, 06:39 PM
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I guess I just cant imagine someone paying a second for:

a 25 year old QB
with a 5-12 record as a starter
with 13 TDs and 7 picks

Russell Wilson was a 3rd
Derek Carr a 2nd
Andy Dalton a 2nd
Colin Kaepernick a 2nd
Dak Prescott 4th
Nick Foles 3rd
Tyrod Taylor 6th

It just seems like whatever team could possibly give us a second for brissett would do a great deal better by picking a QB with that second instead. I dont see brissett as being better that Carr or Dalton. What am I missing?
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Old 01-15-2019, 06:51 PM
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Couple of things:

1. Morroco Brown started scouting with the Colts as an intern.

2. In the IndyStar, Ballard said he's got to be bowled over with an offer to trade Brissett.
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I guess I just cant imagine someone paying a second for:

a 25 year old QB
with a 5-12 record as a starter
with 13 TDs and 7 picks

Russell Wilson was a 3rd
Derek Carr a 2nd
Andy Dalton a 2nd
Colin Kaepernick a 2nd
Dak Prescott 4th
Nick Foles 3rd
Tyrod Taylor 6th

It just seems like whatever team could possibly give us a second for brissett would do a great deal better by picking a QB with that second instead. I dont see brissett as being better that Carr or Dalton. What am I missing?
Not sure this actually relates to your post, but a backup QB doesn't see the field often, so why do we value them so highly? Other backups seem to get much more playing time.
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Not sure this actually relates to your post, but a backup QB doesn't see the field often, so why do we value them so highly? Other backups seem to get much more playing time.

Because when you don't value that position highly, you end up with Curtis Painter filling the role.
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Because when you don't value that position highly, you end up with Curtis Painter filling the role.
Which is the difference between the 1st pick in the draft (the Painter/Orlovsky season) and the 4th pick in the draft (the Brissett season).

If Luck is ever out for a long time, Colts are boned. At that point, you may as well embrace your draft position.
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