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Old 02-21-2017, 02:38 PM
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Default Why does the focus need to be on defense?

Saw this stat in a Colts.com article.....followed by but yet another mock draft predicting we pick RB Cook in the first round.

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Including the playoffs, Andrew Luck has made 25 career starts where the Colts have allowed less than 19 points in a game. The Colts are 25-0 in those games.
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Over the last two years, the Colts have had 22 starts with Luck. They’ve allowed less than 19 points just three times.
Other than a RB and/or possibly a starting quality O-Lineman, if Ballard brings in any starting free agents or uses any draft picks in the first 4 rounds of the draft on offensive specialty positions, I am going to make it my mission in life to find him and kick him in the jibbily nibbits until my leg gets tired.

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because our defense fucking sucks!
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that is sherck's point. but sherck is a numbers geek so he backs it up with some substance.
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Don't worry, Jacksonville will take Cook long before we do.
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we won't spend a #1 on a rb. Colts can grab a Jamaal Williams in the 4th or later, meanwhile drafting 3 starters on defense in the first 3 rounds. I don't care who (we pay guys for that) but Colts need new defensive blood.
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Saw one saying the Colts would take McCaffrey round 1. Rejoice!
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From the Colts.com mailbag:
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I was looking this up the other day. It’s been over a decade since the Colts have drafted a defender that turned into a second contract guy in Indianapolis. That has to change. You need young defensive talent coming from top picks.
And, without looking it up, can you name the last defensive player drafted by the Colts that received a new contract from the Colts after their rookie one?

BTW, this does not count Vontae Davis since he was not drafted by the Colts.....




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Antonie Bethea, drafted in the 6th round by the Colts in 2006 and re-signed to a veteran contract after 4 seasons in 2010. Let go at the end of that contract following the 2013 season. Only missed 5 games out of a possible 128 games in his 8 years in Indy; all within his rookie and 2nd season.

Defensive players selected by the Colts following Bethea 2007 - 2014:

2007:
CB Dante Hughes
DT Quinn Pitcock
SS Brannon Condren
LB Clint Session
FS Michael Coe
DT Keyunta Dawson
2008:
LB Phillip Wheeler
DE Marcus Howard
2009:
DT Fili Moala
CB Jerraud Powers
DT Terrence Taylor
2010:
DE Jerry Hughes
LB Pat Angerer
CB Kevin Thomas
DT Ricardo Matthews
ILB Kavell Conner
CB Ray Fisher
2011:
DT Drake Nevis
SS Chris Ruker
2012:
NT Josh Chapman
ILB Tim Fugger
2013:
OLB Bjoern Werner
DE Montori Hughes
SS John Boyett
2014:
OLB Jonathan Newsome
ILB Andrew Jackson

26 guys, none of which earned a 2nd contract from the Colts. Perhaps we missed on a few guys like Phillip Wheeler, Jerraud Powers and Jerry Hughes but, overall, there was very little NFL talent there.

2015 picks of Henry Anderson, Clayton Geathers and David Parry are the next set of folks that might break this trend in actually having a Colts rookie draftee defender signed to a veteran NFL contract. We will see in 2019.

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From the Colts.com mailbag:

And, without looking it up, can you name the last defensive player drafted by the Colts that received a new contract from the Colts after their rookie one?

BTW, this does not count Vontae Davis since he was not drafted by the Colts.....




Anyone?






Anyone?






Anyone?






Anyone?








Anyone?











Antonie Bethea, drafted in the 6th round by the Colts in 2006 and re-signed to a veteran contract after 4 seasons in 2010. Let go at the end of that contract following the 2013 season. Only missed 5 games out of a possible 128 games in his 8 years in Indy; all within his rookie and 2nd season.

Defensive players selected by the Colts following Bethea 2007 - 2014:

2007:
CB Dante Hughes
DT Quinn Pitcock
SS Brannon Condren
LB Clint Session
FS Michael Coe
DT Keyunta Dawson
2008:
LB Phillip Wheeler
DE Marcus Howard
2009:
DT Fili Moala
CB Jerraud Powers
DT Terrence Taylor
2010:
DE Jerry Hughes
LB Pat Angerer
CB Kevin Thomas
DT Ricardo Matthews
ILB Kavell Conner
CB Ray Fisher
2011:
DT Drake Nevis
SS Chris Ruker
2012:
NT Josh Chapman
ILB Tim Fugger
2013:
OLB Bjoern Werner
DE Montori Hughes
SS John Boyett
2014:
OLB Jonathan Newsome
ILB Andrew Jackson

26 guys, none of which earned a 2nd contract from the Colts. Perhaps we missed on a few guys like Phillip Wheeler, Jerraud Powers and Jerry Hughes but, overall, there was very little NFL talent there.

2015 picks of Henry Anderson, Clayton Geathers and David Parry are the next set of folks that might break this trend in actually having a Colts rookie draftee defender signed to a veteran NFL contract. We will see in 2019.

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