quick thoughts on another debacle

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Except Frank...
Well the Frank that used Wentz to obscure his failings to the owner.

wentz being gone was probably entirely an irsay move. that is my guess anyway

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

wentz being gone was probably entirely an irsay move. that is my guess anyway

Agreed.

My point is we could all see there was a lot more to the failures of this team than just an admittedly bad QB- most notably a bad coach.

However that coach appears to have been able to convince the owner the totality of the problem was the bad QB and avoided taking his share of the blame (which SHOULD have resulted in his dismissal).

Veil is pulled back now, lots of problems on this team, lots of problems with the coaching of this team.

Frank has been exposed for being a bad head coach. Frank needs to be dismissed right fucking now!

[YDFL Commish]

Has this offense been any good since Siriani left?

[Brylok]

We need to blow the whole thing up at the end of the season.

As I said in the game thread, Ballard out, Reich out, Jim Irsay out. All high priced/salaried players out. Try to get first round picks for Taylor and Leonard, and if you can't, trade them for what you can get. Start Ehlinger and hopefully draft a franchise QB for the future in the next draft. It's going to hurt, it's going to suck, but I'd rather go 2-15 next year than keep this mess/fraud/sideshow going on and on and on.

[Brylok]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

leonard was in good spirits after the game according to doyel


that is part of the problem. probably the majority of the problem

I like Leonard a lot. Very good player. But this has to end, and he has to go. Celebrating mediocrity cannot continue, let alone low end mediocrity.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by Brylok

We need to blow the whole thing up at the end of the season.

As I said in the game thread, Ballard out, Reich out, Jim Irsay out. All high priced/salaried players out. Try to get first round picks for Taylor and Leonard, and if you can't, trade them for what you can get. Start Ehlinger and hopefully draft a franchise QB for the future in the next draft. It's going to hurt, it's going to suck, but I'd rather go 2-15 next year than keep this mess/fraud/sideshow going on and on and on.

I disagree to an extent. Yeah, blow up the coaching staff. However, the players have the talent to win in this league more often than not. The problem is that they need a coach to put them in the best possible situations to do so. Every team has some level of talent. A good coach, and a good QB are often the difference between the 2021 Jags and the 2022 Jags. Replace Frank, and I bet we sweep the division next year.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Brylok

We need to blow the whole thing up at the end of the season.

As I said in the game thread, Ballard out, Reich out, Jim Irsay out. All high priced/salaried players out. Try to get first round picks for Taylor and Leonard, and if you can't, trade them for what you can get. Start Ehlinger and hopefully draft a franchise QB for the future in the next draft. It's going to hurt, it's going to suck, but I'd rather go 2-15 next year than keep this mess/fraud/sideshow going on and on and on.

Obviously can't test this hypothesis but I would venture to guess this team could win 9 of the remaining 13 just by firing Frank right now. The talent is there for this team, but they need someone that is better at this than him.

The final 2 minutes, dude literally managed the clock so bad that they only had to get ONE first down in the final two minutes to seal it.

The guy is clearly bad at motivating these guys and he makes so many bad decisions in the game it is crazy.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

leonard was in good spirits after the game according to doyel


that is part of the problem. probably the majority of the problem

I think he probably meant in good spirits about his injury, not about the game and the loss.

[Brylok]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Obviously can't test this hypothesis but I would venture to guess this team could win 9 of the remaining 13 just by firing Frank right now.

I don't think so. The rot is too deep now. It's so deep it's making Taylor suck.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

I disagree to an extent. Yeah, blow up the coaching staff. However, the players have the talent to win in this league more often than not. The problem is that they need a coach to put them in the best possible situations to do so. Every team has some level of talent. A good coach, and a good QB are often the difference between the 2021 Jags and the 2022 Jags. Replace Frank, and I bet we sweep the division next year.

I watch a ton of football, a ton. Though I hate what Goodell has made of this league, I still love watching the insane athleticism these guys display week after week.

That said, and maybe it is just because I am so close to it and watch it with such intense focus, but it seems like the Colts have SOOOOOO many fucking different sets. It seems like the WR / TE group, and including Hines, are a constantly rotating cycle. It seems like it is hard to get continuity in Frank's system unless you are Taylor and Pittman. Seems like he does waaaaaaay too much scheming to try to make the opposition believe he won't be focusing on those two.

Outside of riding Taylor he doesn't seem capable of riding the momentum of particular players.

When a player gets rolling in basketball and he can't miss, you don't sit him down to get him a drink, you ride that wave until his ass collapses.

I literally despise watching Frank overcoach the game so damn much!